Communication aid for sycophants?

2001-05-05 Thread John Woodgate

I see that Intersil have introduced a new VoIP device bearing the
acronym R-SLIC. 

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Fax +44 (0)1268 777124. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Why not call a vertically-
applied manulo-pedally-operated quasi-planar chernozem-penetrating and 
excavating implement a SPADE?

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Re: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-05 Thread John Woodgate

236f133b43f4d211a4b00090273c79dc060b6...@us-rv-exch-2.rsvl.unisys.com,
Richardson, William G william.richard...@unisys.com wrote:
The important thing to note is that a good amount of the utility load is not
constant power.  It is light bulbs, toasters, coffeemakers, hairdryers and
electric heaters and so on. So lowering the voltage 10 % is the first step -
the so-called brown-outs.  Power is a square function, so the new power is
then 90% times 90% or only 81% of the original load. 

Not with light bulbs, actually. At a lower voltage the filament
temperature is lower, so the resistance is lower. Over a certain voltage
range, a lamp draws a nearly constant current, so for a 10% voltage
drop, the power drops by around 10%. not 20%.
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excavating implement a SPADE?

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Re: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-05 Thread Doug McKean

From: mkel...@es.com

 Another potential problem I see with calling both a phase-to-phase
 connection and a phase-to-neutral connection, single-phase is that
it
 presumes that all power supplies can be connected either way.  What
if a
 vendor designs a system in which the power supply is changed many
times over
 the years?  Can you be absolutely, 100% sure that any power supply
that you,
 or your successor, select will work with a phase-to-phase
connection?  Would
 you bet your reputation on it?  Would you bet your job on it?

Uh, yes - I have many times and do with the products I've
worked on.  That's part of my job responsibility.

My original statement which may have been lost in translation
was the following -  *IF* you can connect either as input, you
have a single phase system, AFAIC.

Your examples are obviously valid if those are the issues at
hand.  But, they are outside my point and do not contradict
what I originally said.  If however these issues are surprises
in the course of someone's job, then of course there's
reason for concern.

Regards, Doug McKean



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Re: AC Power Primer?

2001-05-05 Thread John Woodgate

OF4C42EB04.E0B792AD-ON87256A42.005E5AE5@LocalDomain, Ravinder Ajmani
ajm...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Can someone explain to me how reducing the voltage will lower the power
consumption, if the load is kept constant. 

What is it about the load that you propose is kept constant? If the load
is a constant resistance R, Ohm's and Joule's Laws give you W = V^2/R,
so reducing the voltage V reduces the power W.

You are probably thinking in terms of switch-mode power supplies, where
the input current increases if the input voltage decreases. The
incremental input resistance is thus negative, but you can't put such an
incremental value into W =V^2/R. For these power supplies, W is
approximately constant, and independent of V, within the specified range
of input voltage.
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