re: Exemption from CE for products intended for military or police purposes

2003-04-15 Thread richhug...@aol.com 

Peter,
 
Article 296 of the Treaty of Rome exempts certain weapons from other
community laws.  As for "Products specially or exclusively intended for
military or police purposes" this has been discussed, for instance, with
respect to the revised LVD.  
 
There are a number of practical problems that come with such exclusions:
 
1) Certain types of military equipment (such as night sights, radios, etc)
that was originally sold for solely for military purposes can find its way
into civilian hands once it hits the 'army surplus' market. This may not be
a concern for the original equipment manufacturer, but it may be of concern
to enforcement authorities and other government bodies.
 
2) Both the military and the police also have civilian operatives that are
covered by 'normal' Health and Safety at Work provisions.  In such cases it
is questionable whether you would meet the "exclusively intended " criteria.
 
3) Manufacturers may, at the time of product introduction or some time
later, wish to dilute the "exclusivity" by selling to security firms, other
emergency services, etc.  In this case it would be necessary to double-check
if the original exemptions continued to apply.
 
 
Sorry I don't have a "yes, go and look at this web site" answer for you, but
I trust the above info. is of use none the less.  However, there are no
doubt people on this list who may be able to answer your question more
directly.
 
Richard Hughes
Safety Answers Ltd
 


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Dear All,
 
Products specially or exclusively intended for military or police purposes
are explicitly excluded from the scope of certain New Approcah Directives.
Which Directives are excluded? 

Does anyone know where I can find more substantial information regarding
military and/or police equipment intended for shipment to Euroope?
 
Thanks, Peter




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Re: New Safety Scheme in China : CCC

2003-04-15 Thread john.radom...@modicon.com 


Pierre-Marie,

Try: http://www.cnca.gov.cn/download/english.html

John Radomski
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RE: Certification Databases

2003-04-15 Thread Ron Pickard 


Hi Josh,

Thanks for the web addresses. Actually, I already have those web addresses
that you provided. And to
be informative, here are the VDE and TUV PS (now TUV America?) database
addresses:

VDE:
http://pzi.vde.com/en/

TUV Product Service (web address has changed):
http://www.tuvamerica.com/tools/clientlists/certs.cfm

Anyone have any others?

Best regards,

Ron Pickard
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Ron,

I don't have VDE or TUV Product Services but here are UL, CSA and TUV
Rheinland.  If you go to the
main website, there is a link for certified products.  TUV has the dotCOM
service that list the
companies, but the company can also sign up and have manuals, DoC's and other
useful items placed on
their website as well.

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/index.htm

http://directories.csa-international.org/

http://www.tuvdotcom.com/pi/web/index.xml?LanguageChanged=en-us

Regards,
Josh

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Subject: Certification Databases



Hello to all,

Does anyone know if there are any web-based certification databases from any
safety agency such as
the ones from UL, CSA, VDE and TUV? If so, what are their web addresses?

I'm certain that this information would be very useful to all.

I look forward to your replies.

Best regards,

Ron Pickard
rpick...@hypercom.com




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RE: Certification Databases

2003-04-15 Thread boconn...@t-yuden.com 
UL 
http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/index.htm 
CSA 
http://directories.csa-international.org/ 
TUV 
http://www.tuvdotcom.com/TUVdotCOM/home.jsp 
VDE 
http://pzi.vde.com/en/  (search for "certification register) 

Brian 

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Hello to all, 

Does anyone know if there are any web-based certification databases from any
safety agency such as 
the ones from UL, CSA, VDE and TUV? If so, what are their web addresses?

Re: Certification Databases

2003-04-15 Thread douglas_beckw...@mitel.com 


Ron,
Here are that I use regularly.

UL -   www.ul.com. Go to certifications on the left hand side.
CSA - www.csa-international.com  look for the link to certified products
TUV-R  - http://www.tuvdotcom.com/pi/web/index.xml?LanguageChanged=en-us


Regards

Doug



  
   
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Hello to all,

Does anyone know if there are any web-based certification databases from
any safety agency such as
the ones from UL, CSA, VDE and TUV? If so, what are their web addresses?

I'm certain that this information would be very useful to all.

I look forward to your replies.

Best regards,

Ron Pickard
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RE: Certification Databases

2003-04-15 Thread Ron Pickard 


To all,

Thanks to the responses so far. But, I already have access to the UL, CSA, VDE
and TUV NA and TUV PS
databases as I alluded to in my original post.

I was looking for any other safety agency web-based databases (e.g., NEMKO,
SEMKO, BSI, FIMKO, SEV,
BSI, SII, BIS, etc). Does anyone know of any?

Best regards,

Ron Pickard
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Hi Josh,

Thanks for the web addresses. Actually, I already have those web addresses
that you provided. And to
be informative, here are the VDE and TUV PS (now TUV America?) database
addresses:

VDE:
http://pzi.vde.com/en/

TUV Product Service (web address has changed):
http://www.tuvamerica.com/tools/clientlists/certs.cfm

Anyone have any others?

Best regards,

Ron Pickard
rpick...@hypercom.com






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Ron,

I don't have VDE or TUV Product Services but here are UL, CSA and TUV
Rheinland.  If you go to the
main website, there is a link for certified products.  TUV has the dotCOM
service that list the
companies, but the company can also sign up and have manuals, DoC's and other
useful items placed on
their website as well.

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/index.htm

http://directories.csa-international.org/

http://www.tuvdotcom.com/pi/web/index.xml?LanguageChanged=en-us

Regards,
Josh

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Subject: Certification Databases



Hello to all,

Does anyone know if there are any web-based certification databases from any
safety agency such as
the ones from UL, CSA, VDE and TUV? If so, what are their web addresses?

I'm certain that this information would be very useful to all.

I look forward to your replies.

Best regards,

Ron Pickard
rpick...@hypercom.com




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Exemption from CE for products intended for military or police purposes

2003-04-15 Thread peter merguerian 
Dear All,
 
Products specially or exclusively intended for military or police purposes are
explicitly excluded from the scope of certain New Approcah Directives. Which
Directives are excluded? 

Does anyone know where I can find more substantial information regarding
military and/or police equipment intended for shipment to Euroope?
 
Thanks, Peter




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RE: Certification Databases

2003-04-15 Thread Joshua Wiseman 

Ron,

I don't have VDE or TUV Product Services but here are UL, CSA and TUV
Rheinland.  If you go to the main website, there is a link for certified
products.  TUV has the dotCOM service that list the companies, but the company
can also sign up and have manuals, DoC's and other useful items placed on
their website as well.

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/index.htm

http://directories.csa-international.org/

http://www.tuvdotcom.com/pi/web/index.xml?LanguageChanged=en-us

Regards,
Josh

From: Ron Pickard [mailto:rpick...@hypercom.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:10 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Certification Databases



Hello to all,

Does anyone know if there are any web-based certification databases from any
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the ones from UL, CSA, VDE and TUV? If so, what are their web addresses?

I'm certain that this information would be very useful to all.

I look forward to your replies.

Best regards,

Ron Pickard
rpick...@hypercom.com




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Certification Databases

2003-04-15 Thread Ron Pickard 

Hello to all,

Does anyone know if there are any web-based certification databases from any
safety agency such as
the ones from UL, CSA, VDE and TUV? If so, what are their web addresses?

I'm certain that this information would be very useful to all.

I look forward to your replies.

Best regards,

Ron Pickard
rpick...@hypercom.com




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Charge level of rechargeable batteries

2003-04-15 Thread raymond...@omnisourceasia.com.hk 





Dear All,

In the past, the rechargeable batteries accompanying with product must
not be charged before leaving manufactory for certain safety
regulation.  Recently, I notice that the accompanying rechargeable
batteries are charged to certain level.  At least, it can be used to
check the product before they pay for the product.  Can someone tell
the safety requirements about this and any changes recently.

Thanks,

Raymond Li
Omni Source Asia Ltd.



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Re: Russian (GOST) equivalent standards.

2003-04-15 Thread John Woodgate 

I read in !emc-pstc that Barker, Neil 
wrote (in <4f826f960057d4118ec3009027e2453808a52...@whl17.eev.uk>) about
'Russian (GOST) equivalent standards.' on Mon, 14 Apr 2003:
>Although the technical requirements are somewhat similar, you should be
>using EN 55103-1 & EN 55103-2 for EMC as they are the product specific
>standards for audio, video, and lighting control apparatus for professional
>use. I would make sure that you meet these first. I don't agree with earlier
>advice to us EN 55015 as this applies to the luminaires rather than the
>control equipment.

Well, I'm afraid you are wrong in respect of dimmers, as you would know
if you had read clause G.2.2.4 of EN 55103-1. The OP's 'dimmer/control
equipment' suggested to me that the control was integrated in the dimmer
rack, in which case EN 55015 applies to the whole box.
-- 
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