RE: EMC Directive Applicability to Mother Boards
Really? I sure don’t! :-) Exactly how does a PC Motherboard manufacturer demonstrate compliance to the EMC directive? From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Jim Hulbert Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 7:41 AM To: EMC-PSTC (emc-p...@ieee.org) Subject: RE: EMC Directive Applicability to Mother Boards Again, thanks for all the responses. I have a pretty good understanding now of how the Directive applies to components & sub-assemblies. Jim Hulbert From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Jim Hulbert Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 5:03 PM To: EMC-PSTC (emc-p...@ieee.org) Subject: EMC Directive Applicability to Mother Boards Does a PC motherboard by itself fall under the scope of the EMC Directive? Article 2, paragraph 2(a) states that for the purposes of the Directive, the following is deemed an apparatus: "components" or "sub-assemblies" intended for incorporation into an apparatus by the end user, which are liable to generate electromagnetic disturbance, or the performance of which is liabile to be affected by such disturbance. Therefore, I think a PC motherboard (or any other commercially available PC board) falls under the Directive. Am I correct? Jim Hulbert, Team Leader Compliance Engineering & Environmental Test PItney Bowes - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald
Re: Foodsafety standard
In message , dated Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Nick Williams writes: >The prEN never made it to full EN status, but there is instead EN ISO >14159:2004 (and now :2008) "Safety of machinery. Hygiene requirements >for the design of machinery". and EN 1672-2 on the same subject. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk Things can always get better. But that's not the only option. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: Foodsafety standard
In message <96B962D295C74C6D8D8F5A6B07C9743E@PCPETER>, dated Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Peter writes: >Does anyone know where i can obtain a copy of a now cancelled standard >prEN 1672-1 Safety Requirements for Foodprocessing Machinery ? >The Danish Standard association are not able to supply this :-( A prEN is an unapproved draft, so only a member of the relevant CEN committee is likely to have a copy. A Google search suggests that maybe the standard was never approved. It may be that sections of EN 60335-2 cover the subject adequately. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk Things can always get better. But that's not the only option. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: Foodsafety standard
The prEN never made it to full EN status, but there is instead EN ISO 14159:2004 (and now :2008) "Safety of machinery. Hygiene requirements for the design of machinery". Type C food machinery standards tend to include hygiene requirements. I have a copy of prEN 1672-1 if you really need to know what is says. Nick. At 19:14 +0200 25/6/09, Peter wrote: >Hi out there ! > >Does anyone know where i can obtain a copy of a now cancelled >standard prEN 1672-1 Safety Requirements for Foodprocessing >Machinery ? >The Danish Standard association are not able to supply this :-( > >Eventhough it has been cancelled it contained (i am told) many good >inspirational aspects. > >Thanks and have a GR8 summer :-) > >Peter Weichel >Denmark > > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Foodsafety standard
Hi out there ! Does anyone know where i can obtain a copy of a now cancelled standard prEN 1672-1 Safety Requirements for Foodprocessing Machinery ? The Danish Standard association are not able to supply this :-( Eventhough it has been cancelled it contained (i am told) many good inspirational aspects. Thanks and have a GR8 summer :-) Peter Weichel Denmark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald
RE: [PSES] EN 55022 DOCOPOCOSS
YES until October 1st. Steli Loznen, M.Sc.,SM-IEEE Q.A. and Certification Manager Convener of IEC/TC62/SC62A/WG17 I.T.L (Product Testing) Ltd. 1, Bat Sheva St., POB 87 LOD 71100, ISRAEL Tel: 972-8-9153100 Fax: 972-8-9153101 Mobile: 972-54-7245794 E-mail: st...@itl.co.il www.itl.co.il From: Carpentier Kristiaan [mailto:kristiaan.carpent...@thomson.net] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:01 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN 55022 DOCOPOCOSS Hi Group, October 1st, 2009, EN55022:2006 (+A1) will replace the 1998 version. At now & until that date, are the 3 versions listed below still valid as EU harmonised standard for mentioning on the EU DoC? EN55022:1998 And/or EN55022:1998+A1 And/or EN55022:1998+A1+A2 Kind regards, Kris Carpentier Regulatory & Approvals - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald
EN 55022 DOCOPOCOSS
Hi Group, October 1st, 2009, EN55022:2006 (+A1) will replace the 1998 version. At now & until that date, are the 3 versions listed below still valid as EU harmonised standard for mentioning on the EU DoC? EN55022:1998 And/or EN55022:1998+A1 And/or EN55022:1998+A1+A2 Kind regards, Kris Carpentier Regulatory & Approvals - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald
