[PSES] Automated testing to EN61000-4-6
I am investigating purchasing test equipment to perform 61000-4-6 R.F. conducted immunity testing. There's lots of choices out there, and I see a couple of integrated, automated systems that look interesting (albeit at a price premium I'm sure). My questions are: Does anyone on this list use an automated test setup? And what are the drawbacks (if any) of such an approach. The marketing literature doesn't seem to go there. It's all good. I suppose any vendor specific negative stories should be sent direct and not to the listserv. adTHANKSvance, Bob Sykes Unrelated Friday humor for those involved in ESD testinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtlYi1yLTVQ Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and delete this message. The sender disclaims that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any agreement; provided that the foregoing does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Automated testing to EN61000-4-6
Warning - not an EMI guru, but I did have peanut butter with my bagel, and I have just recently automated C/I tests. Process automation, when done for a good reason is almost always good. Sometimes very good. ISO17025 will be the determining factor for system complexity - so if only for pre-comp, do whatever hack is within your available resources that yields consistent and repeatable results (and ignore all of the 17025 stuff). Part of 'automation' is the fixture, so the CDN, clamp, BCI, etc should be fixed. And the calibration fixture should be built in to the overall test fixture. This is probably more easy for me to do because we are testing mostly small (5kVA) power converters. The only thing I did for cal was to have the computer log a table of signal levels and freqs, where the same table is used to drive the test. The main reason for a non-test house company to automate is to enforce process discipline and remove humans from the loop. Drawback is that the design engrs complain about setups that cannot be modified. They will get over it. The other negative is that if rolling your own means that you are tech support when stuff does not work, but system cost will probably be 30% of a commercial integration. I am vendor-neutral for this specific test - use whatever keeps the empire from collapsing. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Sykes, Bob Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:59 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Automated testing to EN61000-4-6 I am investigating purchasing test equipment to perform 61000-4-6 R.F. conducted immunity testing. There's lots of choices out there, and I see a couple of integrated, automated systems that look interesting (albeit at a price premium I'm sure). My questions are: Does anyone on this list use an automated test setup? And what are the drawbacks (if any) of such an approach. The marketing literature doesn't seem to go there. It's all good. I suppose any vendor specific negative stories should be sent direct and not to the listserv. adTHANKSvance, Bob Sykes Unrelated Friday humor for those involved in ESD testing Please be advised that this email may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us by email by replying to the sender and delete this message. The sender disclaims that the content of this email constitutes an offer to enter into, or the acceptance of, any agreement; provided that the foregoing does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included in any attachment. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] user's group ??
We are considering new automation tools for some of our MIL-STD-461 and DO-160 tests. I am hoping that there are user's groups or forums for some of the more popular software packages. Does anyone know of, or belong to, forums for TILE!, EMC Automation (TDK), RadiMotion (DARE!!), EMITest (CKC), or any other? Thanks in advance. // Patrick Conway pcon...@ball.com 303.533.7165 Wetmoor WMR1 Westminster, CO 80021 This message and any enclosures are intended only for the addressee. Please notify the sender by email if you are not the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disclose, or distribute this message or its contents or enclosures to any other person and any such actions may be unlawful. Ball reserves the right to monitor and review all messages and enclosures sent to or from this email address. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] user's group ??
Yes, there is a linked in Teseq Compliance 5 users group -Original Message- From: Conway, Patrick pcon...@ball.com To: EMC-PSTC EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Fri, Jan 11, 2013 3:12 pm Subject: user's group ?? We are considering new automation tools for some of our MIL-STD-461 and DO-160 tests. I am hoping that there are user’s groups or forums for some of the more popular software packages. Does anyone know of, or belong to, forums for TILE!, EMC Automation (TDK), RadiMotion (DARE!!), EMITest (CKC), or any other? Thanks in advance. // Patrick Conway pcon...@ball.com 303.533.7165 Wetmoor WMR1 Westminster, CO 80021 This message and any enclosures are intended only for the addressee. Please notify the sender by email if you are not the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disclose, or distribute this message or its contents or enclosures to any other person and any such actions may be unlawful. Ball reserves the right to monitor and review all messages and enclosures sent to or from this email address. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to LT;emc-p...@ieee.orgGT; All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at:http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas LT;emcp...@radiusnorth.netGT; Mike Cantwell LT;mcantw...@ieee.orgGT; For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher LT;j.bac...@ieee.orgGT; David Heald LT;dhe...@gmail.comGT; - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] UL746E, Figure 22.1
Anyone have link to a fully-dimensioned drawing for UL746E, Figure 22.1 (conformal coating dielectric test pattern)? thanks, Brian - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
