Re: [PSES] Test Report Forms for IEC/EN/UL/CSA 61010-1 3rd Edition
In message <64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB02641A50@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local>, dated Wed, 10 Apr 2013, "Kunde, Brian" writes: I emailed the IEC off their website to ask them but no reply after several days. You have to be very careful to email the right (anonymous) person. Actually, the Customer Service centre now advises in their FAQ: I have questions related to the content of a specific IEC publication You will find below categories of technical questions and who to contact: Technical information Please contact the secretary of the IEC National Committee in your country. Best of luck! -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk They took me to a specialist burns unit - and made me learn 'To a haggis'. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
[PSES] Wifi Alliance testing for 11ac in Bay area
does anyone konow of a lab in Bay area that can do the wifi alliance testing for 11ac? please contact me/email me the contact info. thanks in advance? Regards Christopher - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] Test Report Forms for IEC/EN/UL/CSA 61010-1 3rd Edition
Brian, I believe UL customers can download the national deviations for free (well it is not really free if you are a UL client I guess) using the SCCL even if you have not purchased the standard itself from UL. Do not know if CSA or the others provide the same service. __ Dan Roman, N.C.E. mailto:dan.ro...@ieee.org -Original Message- From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:01 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Test Report Forms for IEC/EN/UL/CSA 61010-1 3rd Edition Thanks for the information but I'm getting different answers from different people. Our local TUV:SUD office told me if I order the TRF from IEC that it will include all available national deviations provided in a separate document. I emailed the IEC off their website to ask them but no reply after several days. I purchased a copy of the IEC 61010-1 3rd Ed several years ago. Now that UL and CSA has published their version, is there a way I can get just a list of their National Differences without having to buy their Tri-National version and go through it line by line? There must be an easier way that I'm just not aware of. Please help. Thanks, The Other Brian -Original Message- From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:47 PM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Test Report Forms for IEC/EN/UL/CSA 61010-1 3rd Edition Dear Brian, You cannot buy a prepared test report form with all national deviations. You can only buy a basic IEC TRF on iec web page. TRFs are available free of charge if your laboratory is a member of CB scheme. You can ask your certification body for support. Each certification body and CBTL has access to on-line CB Bulletin on CB scheme web page, where are published all national deviations. Therefore each laboratory is including national deviations into IEC TRF. I hope it helps. Best regards, Bostjan -Original Message- From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:24 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Test Report Forms for IEC/EN/UL/CSA 61010-1 3rd Edition Where can I purchase the Test Report Form for the IEC 61010-1 3rd Edition which includes all the National Deviations for Eruope, US, Canada, Australia, etc.?? I've found some for the 2nd edition but not yet for the 3rd edition. Thanks, The Other Brian LECO Corporation Notice: This communication may contain confidential information intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you received this by mistake, please destroy it and notify us of the error. Thank you. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: LECO Corporation Notice: This communication may contain confidential information intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you received this by mistake, please destroy it and notify us of the error. Thank you. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://produc
[PSES] How to determine EU RTTE class.
I am looking for advice on how to determine the EU RTTE class of a product. The product has a base station and a sensor. The battery powered sensor can be taken out of the base station and used elsewhere to do its sensing thing, and then be brought back to the base station for charging and uploading of the sensed data. The nominal transmit frequency for sense data communication is 1700 KHz +/-100 KHz. The modulation scheme uses On-Off Keying (OOK). The nominal baudrate base station to sensor is 1,000 Hz. The nominal baudrate sensor to base station is 8,000 Hz. Based on this information, can someone help me understand which RTTE class this product is, and why? Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] Test Report Forms for IEC/EN/UL/CSA 61010-1 3rd Edition
Thanks for the information but I'm getting different answers from different people. Our local TUV:SUD office told me if I order the TRF from IEC that it will include all available national deviations provided in a separate document. I emailed the IEC off their website to ask them but no reply after several days. I purchased a copy of the IEC 61010-1 3rd Ed several years ago. Now that UL and CSA has published their version, is there a way I can get just a list of their National Differences without having to buy their Tri-National version and go through it line by line? There must be an easier way that I'm just not aware of. Please help. Thanks, The Other Brian -Original Message- From: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:47 PM To: Kunde, Brian; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Test Report Forms for IEC/EN/UL/CSA 61010-1 3rd Edition Dear Brian, You cannot buy a prepared test report form with all national deviations. You can only buy a basic IEC TRF on iec web page. TRFs are available free of charge if your laboratory is a member of CB scheme. You can ask your certification body for support. Each certification body and CBTL has access to on-line CB Bulletin on CB scheme web page, where are published all national deviations. Therefore each laboratory is including national deviations into IEC TRF. I hope it helps. Best regards, Bostjan -Original Message- From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:24 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Test Report Forms for IEC/EN/UL/CSA 61010-1 3rd Edition Where can I purchase the Test Report Form for the IEC 61010-1 3rd Edition which includes all the National Deviations for Eruope, US, Canada, Australia, etc.?? I've found some for the 2nd edition but not yet for the 3rd edition. Thanks, The Other Brian LECO Corporation Notice: This communication may contain confidential information intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you received this by mistake, please destroy it and notify us of the error. Thank you. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: LECO Corporation Notice: This communication may contain confidential information intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you received this by mistake, please destroy it and notify us of the error. Thank you. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
