[PSES] Non-rewirable intermediate adaptors or adaptor plugs
Hi John, Do you have any idea what the actual products of non-rewirable intermediate adaptors or adaptor plugs mentioned in sub-clause 15.2 of BS 1363-3 for mains adaptor are as compared to the 3-way adaptors used in normal household? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable intermediate adaptors or adaptor plugs
In message ce4edf11.1c355%scott...@gmail.com, dated Fri, 6 Sep 2013, Scott Xe scott...@gmail.com writes: Do you have any idea what the actual products of non-rewirable intermediate adaptors or adaptor plugs mentioned in sub-clause 15.2 of BS 1363-3 for mains adaptor are as compared to the 3-way adaptors used in normal household? No. I don't think I have ever seen one. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk If dictionaries were correct, we would only need one, because they would all give the same information. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] Safety and Altitude
Hi there, Wanted to get some simple data point based on your experiences across different companies and industries: what are an altitude levels been used while evaluating 60950-1 isolation requirements? By default you get 2000m, how many of you used different levels? This is driven by 5000m CCC requirement and some critical power supply component limitations. If there will be enough responses, I’ll send back statistical breakdown. Thank you for reading, Mark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] Importer on Record in Korea required for 12vdc adapter
Folks, we are trying to get a 12VDC adapter certified for KC in Korea. our power adapter vendor has asked us to give them in-country rep for Korea? Can someone share their experience about this new KC rule for dc adapter certification in Korea? I was aware of Japan Meti process for IoR as per Dennan Law. Thank you in advance for your feedback/comments. Christopher - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude
I've used a number of different altitudes beyond the 2000m default (scaling based on IEC 60664 as mentioned in annex G of '950). You may know this, but I just want to point out- your product does not have to *function* at 5000m, it can shut down for OT or whatever, they just seem to want the spacings set for 5000m. You also have the option of labelling with the no mountains graphic if you can't get 5000m spacings. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Mark Gandler markgand...@hotmail.comwrote: Hi there,** Wanted to get some simple data point based on your experiences across different companies and industries: what are an altitude levels been used while evaluating 60950-1 isolation requirements? By default you get 2000m, how many of you used different levels? This is driven by 5000m CCC requirement and some critical power supply component limitations. If there will be enough responses, I’ll send back statistical breakdown. * *** Thank you for reading, Mark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to LT; emc-p...@ieee.orgGT; All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas LT;emcp...@radiusnorth.netGT; Mike Cantwell LT;mcantw...@ieee.orgGT; For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher LT;j.bac...@ieee.orgGT; David Heald LT;dhe...@gmail.comGT; - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude
In addition to 5000m and 2000m we have also approved products up to 2500m, 3048m and 4000m. Best regards, Bostjan Glavic SIQ On 6. sep. 2013, at 03:12, IBM Ken ibm...@gmail.commailto:ibm...@gmail.com wrote: I've used a number of different altitudes beyond the 2000m default (scaling based on IEC 60664 as mentioned in annex G of '950). You may know this, but I just want to point out- your product does not have to *function* at 5000m, it can shut down for OT or whatever, they just seem to want the spacings set for 5000m. You also have the option of labelling with the no mountains graphic if you can't get 5000m spacings. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Mark Gandler markgand...@hotmail.commailto:markgand...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi there, Wanted to get some simple data point based on your experiences across different companies and industries: what are an altitude levels been used while evaluating 60950-1 isolation requirements? By default you get 2000m, how many of you used different levels? This is driven by 5000m CCC requirement and some critical power supply component limitations. If there will be enough responses, I’ll send back statistical breakdown. Thank you for reading, Mark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to LT;emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.orgGT; All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas LT;emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.netGT; Mike Cantwell LT;mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.orgGT; For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher LT;j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.orgGT; David Heald LT;dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.comGT; - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] 答复: [PSES] Safety and Altitude
For China CCC, there is no 2500m, 3048m, only 2000m and 5000m. So you have the choice to add the altitude symbol to show the using condition is below 2000m, or you can test the clearance distance to meet the higher altitude requirements. If you are certifying a product with CCC certified power supply, the power supply need to be approved to the new GB4943 standard first. If the power supply can be used below 2000m only, the end product also need to declare the 2000m altitude. Paul Wang (王卫波) GM Compliance,Inc.Beijing Office Tel:86-10-58203318 Cell:86-13810026747 -邮件原件- 发件人: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] 发送时间: 2013年9月6日 11:20 收件人: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 主题: Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude In addition to 5000m and 2000m we have also approved products up to 2500m, 3048m and 4000m. Best regards, Bostjan Glavic SIQ On 6. sep. 2013, at 03:12, IBM Ken ibm...@gmail.commailto:ibm...@gmail.com wrote: I've used a number of different altitudes beyond the 2000m default (scaling based on IEC 60664 as mentioned in annex G of '950). You may know this, but I just want to point out- your product does not have to *function* at 5000m, it can shut down for OT or whatever, they just seem to want the spacings set for 5000m. You also have the option of labelling with the no mountains graphic if you can't get 5000m spacings. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Mark Gandler markgand...@hotmail.commailto:markgand...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi there, Wanted to get some simple data point based on your experiences across different companies and industries: what are an altitude levels been used while evaluating 60950-1 isolation requirements? By default you get 2000m, how many of you used different levels? This is driven by 5000m CCC requirement and some critical power supply component limitations. If there will be enough responses, I’ll send back statistical breakdown. Thank you for reading, Mark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to LT;emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.orgGT; All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas LT;emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.netGT; Mike Cantwell LT;mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.orgGT; For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher LT;j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.orgGT; David Heald LT;dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.comGT; - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product
Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude
Exactly, I only listed what we have tested for CB in general. I know that Peru has no national deviations but many cities are above 3000m. Best regards, Bostjan -Original Message- From: Paul Wang [mailto:paulw...@gmcompliance.com] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 7:34 AM To: Boštjan Glavič; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: 答复: [PSES] Safety and Altitude For China CCC, there is no 2500m, 3048m, only 2000m and 5000m. So you have the choice to add the altitude symbol to show the using condition is below 2000m, or you can test the clearance distance to meet the higher altitude requirements. If you are certifying a product with CCC certified power supply, the power supply need to be approved to the new GB4943 standard first. If the power supply can be used below 2000m only, the end product also need to declare the 2000m altitude. Paul Wang (王卫波) GM Compliance,Inc.Beijing Office Tel:86-10-58203318 Cell:86-13810026747 -邮件原件- 发件人: Boštjan Glavič [mailto:bostjan.gla...@siq.si] 发送时间: 2013年9月6日 11:20 收件人: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 主题: Re: [PSES] Safety and Altitude In addition to 5000m and 2000m we have also approved products up to 2500m, 3048m and 4000m. Best regards, Bostjan Glavic SIQ On 6. sep. 2013, at 03:12, IBM Ken ibm...@gmail.commailto:ibm...@gmail.com wrote: I've used a number of different altitudes beyond the 2000m default (scaling based on IEC 60664 as mentioned in annex G of '950). You may know this, but I just want to point out- your product does not have to *function* at 5000m, it can shut down for OT or whatever, they just seem to want the spacings set for 5000m. You also have the option of labelling with the no mountains graphic if you can't get 5000m spacings. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Mark Gandler markgand...@hotmail.commailto:markgand...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi there, Wanted to get some simple data point based on your experiences across different companies and industries: what are an altitude levels been used while evaluating 60950-1 isolation requirements? By default you get 2000m, how many of you used different levels? This is driven by 5000m CCC requirement and some critical power supply component limitations. If there will be enough responses, I’ll send back statistical breakdown. Thank you for reading, Mark - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to LT;emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.orgGT; All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas LT;emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.netGT; Mike Cantwell LT;mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.orgGT; For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher LT;j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.orgGT; David Heald LT;dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.comGT; - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List
