Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

[John Woodgate]

In message <004f01cff2de$8a30cff0$9e926fd0$@cox.net>, dated Tue, 28 Oct 
2014, Ed Price  writes:


But Ghery, it?s not really all that bad; there are only 17,576 
permutations of TLA?s.


That's the trouble; there aren't enough so they get re-used. That won't 
happen to docopocoss!

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Quid faciamus nisi sit?
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Re: [PSES] Next basic standards for CE marking?

[John Woodgate]

In message <00c701cff1c3$0a8ca560$1fa5f020$@westin-emission.no>, dated 
Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Amund Westin  writes:


Today, the basic standards 61000-4-2, -3, -4, -5, -6, -8, -11 are 
referred to in Cenelec generic standards or various product standards. 
But, there exist a range of other basic standards for other EMC 
phenomena.


Anybody who knows which will be the next standard to be included for CE 
marking?


The Generics have only recently been revised, so no change is likely 
there. This practically means no new emission standards. For immunity 
standards, it is up to individual product committees to call up new 
immunity standards in the EMC clauses of their product standards or in 
their stand-alone EMC standards, if they think it's necessary.


For example, TC34 has just produced IEC TR 61547-1 Ed. 1: Equipment for 
general lighting purposes – EMC immunity - Part 1:

An objective voltage fluctuation immunity test method

Of course, it's a TR on a method of measurement, not setting immunity 
requirements, and thus cannot be notified in the OJ under the EMC 
Directive. But a new standard with requirements could be.

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Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

[Schaefer, David]

Thanks everyone for your responses. I was able to find the article in the 
internet archive.

Thanks again,

David Schaefer

From: Helge Knudsen [mailto:hknud...@mail.tele.dk]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

Hi Chuck,
Yes, see here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20010118214400/http://www.ce-mag.com/
Br.
Helge Knudsen
Denmark

From: Chuck McDowell [mailto:chu...@meyersound.com]
Sent: 28. oktober 2014 19:58
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Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

Might I suggest searching the internet archive if you have a URL.

https://archive.org/web/

435 billion web pages saved over time.


Chuck McDowell
Compliance Specialist
Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc.

From: Schaefer, David [mailto:dschae...@tuvam.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:20 AM
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Subject: [PSES] CE-magazine

Hi all,

I'm trying to track down an article from CE magazine from a few years ago. I 
had a link to it, but it seems their website is gone. Does anyone know if there 
is an archive available anywhere else online?

Thanks,

David Schaefer
EMC Chief Technical Advisor
TÜV SÜD America Inc
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Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

[Helge Knudsen]

Hi Chuck,

Yes, see here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010118214400/http://www.ce-mag.com/
 

Br.

Helge Knudsen

Denmark

 

From: Chuck McDowell [mailto:chu...@meyersound.com] 
Sent: 28. oktober 2014 19:58
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

 

Might I suggest searching the internet archive if you have a URL.

 

https://archive.org/web/

 

435 billion web pages saved over time.

 

 

Chuck McDowell

Compliance Specialist 

Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc.

 

From: Schaefer, David [mailto:dschae...@tuvam.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:20 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] CE-magazine

 

Hi all,

 

I’m trying to track down an article from CE magazine from a few years ago. I
had a link to it, but it seems their website is gone. Does anyone know if
there is an archive available anywhere else online?

 

Thanks,

 

David Schaefer

EMC Chief Technical Advisor

TÜV SÜD America Inc

Office: 651 638 0251

Cell: 612 578 6038

Fax: 651 638 0285

 


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Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

[Chuck McDowell]

Might I suggest searching the internet archive if you have a URL.

https://archive.org/web/

435 billion web pages saved over time.

Chuck McDowell
Compliance Specialist
Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc.

From: Schaefer, David [mailto:dschae...@tuvam.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:20 AM
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Subject: [PSES] CE-magazine

Hi all,

I'm trying to track down an article from CE magazine from a few years ago. I 
had a link to it, but it seems their website is gone. Does anyone know if there 
is an archive available anywhere else online?

Thanks,

David Schaefer
EMC Chief Technical Advisor
TÜV SÜD America Inc
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Cell: 612 578 6038
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Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

[Helge Knudsen]

Hi David,

 

I think it could be from ce-mag.com.

I have deleted all that stuf, maybe someone have it.

 

Best regards

 

Helge Knudsen

Denmark 

 

 

 

From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] 
Sent: 28. oktober 2014 17:56
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

 

 

Hi David:

 

 

Suggest you contact Stefan Mozar, President of the CE Society.
s.mo...@ieee.org

 

 

Best regards,

Rich

 

From: Schaefer, David [mailto:dschae...@tuvam.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:20 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] CE-magazine

 

Hi all,

 

I’m trying to track down an article from CE magazine from a few years ago. I
had a link to it, but it seems their website is gone. Does anyone know if
there is an archive available anywhere else online?

 

Thanks,

 

David Schaefer

EMC Chief Technical Advisor

TÜV SÜD America Inc

Office: 651 638 0251

Cell: 612 578 6038

Fax: 651 638 0285

 

 

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Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

[Ed Price]

But Ghery, it’s not really all that bad; there are only 17,576 permutations
of TLA’s.

 

Ed Price
WB6WSN
Chula Vista, CA USA



 

From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:38 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

 

As James noted, acronyms should be defined when first used.  Don’t feel bad.
I work for Intel.  TLAs abound.  And, after nearly 20 years I’ve given up
trying to keep track of them.  J

 

Oh, TLA?  Three Letter Acronym.  J J

 

Ghery S. Pettit

 

From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:30 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

 

So it goes when I’m looking at the IEEE Consumer Electronics magazine they
started sending.

 

From: Pawson, James [mailto:james.paw...@echostar.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:10 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

 

That’s the problem with acronyms and abbreviations, they can mean different
things to different people.

 

From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com] 
Sent: 28 October 2014 17:00
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

 

I suspect he is looking for Compliance Engineering magazine.  J

 

Ghery S. Pettit

 

From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:56 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

 

 

Hi David:

 

 

Suggest you contact Stefan Mozar, President of the CE Society.
s.mo...@ieee.org

 

 

Best regards,

Rich

 

From: Schaefer, David [mailto:dschae...@tuvam.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:20 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] CE-magazine

 

Hi all,

 

I’m trying to track down an article from CE magazine from a few years ago. I
had a link to it, but it seems their website is gone. Does anyone know if
there is an archive available anywhere else online?

 

Thanks,

 

David Schaefer

EMC Chief Technical Advisor

TÜV SÜD America Inc

Office: 651 638 0251

Cell: 612 578 6038

Fax: 651 638 0285

 

 

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Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

[Pettit, Ghery]

As James noted, acronyms should be defined when first used.  Don't feel bad.  I 
work for Intel.  TLAs abound.  And, after nearly 20 years I've given up trying 
to keep track of them.  :)

Oh, TLA?  Three Letter Acronym.  :) :)

Ghery S. Pettit

From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:30 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

So it goes when I'm looking at the IEEE Consumer Electronics magazine they 
started sending.

From: Pawson, James [mailto:james.paw...@echostar.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:10 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

That's the problem with acronyms and abbreviations, they can mean different 
things to different people.

From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com]
Sent: 28 October 2014 17:00
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

I suspect he is looking for Compliance Engineering magazine.  :)

Ghery S. Pettit

From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:56 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine


Hi David:


Suggest you contact Stefan Mozar, President of the CE Society.  
s.mo...@ieee.org


Best regards,
Rich

From: Schaefer, David [mailto:dschae...@tuvam.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:20 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] CE-magazine

Hi all,

I'm trying to track down an article from CE magazine from a few years ago. I 
had a link to it, but it seems their website is gone. Does anyone know if there 
is an archive available anywhere else online?

Thanks,

David Schaefer
EMC Chief Technical Advisor
TÜV SÜD America Inc
Office: 651 638 0251
Cell: 612 578 6038
Fax: 651 638 0285


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Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

[Nyffenegger, Dave]

So it goes when I'm looking at the IEEE Consumer Electronics magazine they 
started sending.

From: Pawson, James [mailto:james.paw...@echostar.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:10 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

That's the problem with acronyms and abbreviations, they can mean different 
things to different people.

From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com]
Sent: 28 October 2014 17:00
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Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

I suspect he is looking for Compliance Engineering magazine.  :)

Ghery S. Pettit

From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:56 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine


Hi David:


Suggest you contact Stefan Mozar, President of the CE Society.  
s.mo...@ieee.org


Best regards,
Rich

From: Schaefer, David [mailto:dschae...@tuvam.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:20 AM
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Subject: [PSES] CE-magazine

Hi all,

I'm trying to track down an article from CE magazine from a few years ago. I 
had a link to it, but it seems their website is gone. Does anyone know if there 
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David Schaefer
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Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

[Pawson, James]

That's the problem with acronyms and abbreviations, they can mean different 
things to different people.

From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com]
Sent: 28 October 2014 17:00
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Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

I suspect he is looking for Compliance Engineering magazine.  :)

Ghery S. Pettit

From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:56 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine


Hi David:


Suggest you contact Stefan Mozar, President of the CE Society.  
s.mo...@ieee.org


Best regards,
Rich

From: Schaefer, David [mailto:dschae...@tuvam.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:20 AM
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Subject: [PSES] CE-magazine

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Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

[Pettit, Ghery]

I suspect he is looking for Compliance Engineering magazine.  :)

Ghery S. Pettit

From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
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Subject: Re: [PSES] CE-magazine


Hi David:


Suggest you contact Stefan Mozar, President of the CE Society.  
s.mo...@ieee.org


Best regards,
Rich

From: Schaefer, David [mailto:dschae...@tuvam.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:20 AM
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Subject: [PSES] CE-magazine

Hi all,

I'm trying to track down an article from CE magazine from a few years ago. I 
had a link to it, but it seems their website is gone. Does anyone know if there 
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David Schaefer
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Re: [PSES] CE-magazine

[Richard Nute]

 

Hi David:

 

 

Suggest you contact Stefan Mozar, President of the
CE Society.  s.mo...@ieee.org
 

 

 

Best regards,

Rich

 

From: Schaefer, David [mailto:dschae...@tuvam.com]

Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:20 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] CE-magazine

 

Hi all,

 

I’m trying to track down an article from CE
magazine from a few years ago. I had a link to it,
but it seems their website is gone. Does anyone
know if there is an archive available anywhere
else online?

 

Thanks,

 

David Schaefer

EMC Chief Technical Advisor

TÜV SÜD America Inc

Office: 651 638 0251

Cell: 612 578 6038

Fax: 651 638 0285

 






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[PSES] CE-magazine

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[PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

[Hooper, Nick]

Hello everyone.

I have been in discussion with the EU Commission and ADCO chairman as there 
seems to be an amount of misunderstanding on when you can declare compliance to 
the RED.  I explained to Lucio that we have seen a few cases of DoC and NB 
opinions to the new RED, and therefore had a question on the validity of these 
documents.
Below is the response received from the ADCO R&TTE Chairman.

"Dear Nick
We have already had such problems and administrative non compliances :)
The new Directive (RED) is currently not applicable (will be applicable to 
products first placed on market as of 13 June 2016).  Hence the manufacturers 
cannot use, right now (i.e. for products placed on market before 13 June 2016), 
the references of RED (new Directive).
Best regards
Lucio

Lucio Cocciantelli
ADCO R&TTE Chairman"

Please ensure you read Artcile 48 to 50 of the RED, and pass this information 
on asap.

Notified Bodies should not be issuing Opinions to the RED until they are 
listed, on the yet to be published, NANDO database for RED Notified Bodies.  As 
the accreditation assessments will be taking place over the next year, it is 
unlikely the RED NANDO list will be published until late 2015 / early 2016

Nick Hooper BSc(Eng) CEng MIET
Chairman R&TTE CA

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