Re: [PSES] FCC part 18

2017-05-31 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave 
Yes, I recall we have had this discussion before with the same answer.

-Dave

From: Bill Stumpf [mailto:bstu...@dlsemc.com]
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Subject: Re: [PSES] FCC part 18

Dieter,
The statement in 15.103 refers to Industrial test equipment, Commercial test 
equipment, and Medical test equipment.  I am confident of this because I sent 
the very same question in an inquiry to the FCC in November of 2015.

FCC inquiry response: "It is an exemption for demonstrating compliance for the 
digital logic contained in test equipment exclusively used in commercial, 
medical and industrial situations, not commercial equipment."

Bill Stumpf - Lab / Technical Manager
D.L.S. Electronic Systems, Inc.
166 South Carter Street
Genoa City WI 53128
Ph: 262-279-0210



From: Paasche, Dieter [mailto:dieter.paas...@christiedigital.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 3:50 PM
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Subject: [PSES] FCC part 18

Dear group,

In FCC part 15.103 does the term "test equipment" refer to the medical 
equipment only or to the industrial and commercial equipment as well.

(c) A digital device used exclusively as industrial, commercial, or medical 
test equipment

Means if I have an industrial or commercial digital device (e.g cash register 
or industrial computer?) that is not for testing, would it have to comply with 
FCC part 15?.


Sincerely,

Dieter Paasche
Senior Product Developer, Electrical
CHRISTIE
809 Wellington Street North
Kitchener, ON N2G 4Y7
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Re: [PSES] FCC part 18

2017-05-31 Thread Bill Stumpf 
Dieter,
The statement in 15.103 refers to Industrial test equipment, Commercial test 
equipment, and Medical test equipment.  I am confident of this because I sent 
the very same question in an inquiry to the FCC in November of 2015.

FCC inquiry response: "It is an exemption for demonstrating compliance for the 
digital logic contained in test equipment exclusively used in commercial, 
medical and industrial situations, not commercial equipment."

Bill Stumpf - Lab / Technical Manager
D.L.S. Electronic Systems, Inc.
166 South Carter Street
Genoa City WI 53128
Ph: 262-279-0210



From: Paasche, Dieter [mailto:dieter.paas...@christiedigital.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 3:50 PM
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Subject: [PSES] FCC part 18

Dear group,

In FCC part 15.103 does the term "test equipment" refer to the medical 
equipment only or to the industrial and commercial equipment as well.

(c) A digital device used exclusively as industrial, commercial, or medical 
test equipment

Means if I have an industrial or commercial digital device (e.g cash register 
or industrial computer?) that is not for testing, would it have to comply with 
FCC part 15?.


Sincerely,

Dieter Paasche
Senior Product Developer, Electrical
CHRISTIE
809 Wellington Street North
Kitchener, ON N2G 4Y7
Phone: 519-744-8005 ext.7211
www.christiedigital.com

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[PSES] FCC part 18

2017-05-31 Thread Paasche, Dieter 
Dear group,

In FCC part 15.103 does the term "test equipment" refer to the medical 
equipment only or to the industrial and commercial equipment as well.

(c) A digital device used exclusively as industrial, commercial, or medical 
test equipment

Means if I have an industrial or commercial digital device (e.g cash register 
or industrial computer?) that is not for testing, would it have to comply with 
FCC part 15?.


Sincerely,

Dieter Paasche
Senior Product Developer, Electrical
CHRISTIE
809 Wellington Street North
Kitchener, ON N2G 4Y7
Phone: 519-744-8005 ext.7211
www.christiedigital.com

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Re: [PSES] RED guide

2017-05-31 Thread Charlie Blackham 
Amund



This section was in the final draft but deleted from the published version.

It is expected that this topic will be discussed at TCAM this week and was 
briefly discussed at REDCA last week and may well be added to the RED guide as 
and when an update is issued (updates are expected, but there's no timescale at 
present).



EMC aspects of combined equipment are discussed in ETSI EN 303446-1 and EN 
303446-2.



Regards

Charlie



Charlie Blackham

Sulis Consultants Ltd

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Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247



-Original Message-
From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no]
Sent: 31 May 2017 12:48
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Subject: [PSES] RED guide



>From the RED guide (May 19, 2017)

Chapter 1.6.3.1 Non-radio products which function with radio equipment To be 
finalised.





We still assume at the Non-radio product shall conform to its standards and 
directives.

The radio equipment / module shall conform to its standards and RED.

Together, radio module mounted into the Non-radio product, shall (or

should) be tested for radiated spurious emission, to check any spurious 
influence when radio module in included.



Makes sense as long as we ate waiting for a description in chapter

1.6.3.1 of the RED guide?



Cheers!



Amund



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Re: [PSES] Min size of double insulation symbol relaxed

2017-05-31 Thread Peter Tarver 
Scott -

The CE mark size is mentioned in RED, but not the double insulation symbol. The 
LVD implicitly defers to the CE Marking Directive for size.

IEC 60417 doesn't have a symbol size for Symbol 5172. You might need to refer 
to the standard used for the product bearing the Symbol 5172 for the answer.


Peter Tarver

> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Xe
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 08:55
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>  Is the minimum size of 5 mm relaxed to the legible reading
> in LVD and RED?  Where and when does it introduce?

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[PSES] Min size of double insulation symbol relaxed

2017-05-31 Thread Scott Xe 
 Is the minimum size of 5 mm relaxed to the legible reading in LVD and RED?  
Where and when does it introduce?

Thanks and regards,

Scott

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[PSES] RED guide

2017-05-31 Thread Amund Westin 

From the RED guide (May 19, 2017)
Chapter 1.6.3.1 Non-radio products which function with radio equipment
To be finalised.


We still assume at the Non-radio product shall conform to its standards 
and directives.

The radio equipment / module shall conform to its standards and RED.
Together, radio module mounted into the Non-radio product, shall (or 
should) be tested for radiated spurious emission, to check any spurious 
influence when radio module in included.


Makes sense as long as we ate waiting for a description in chapter 
1.6.3.1 of the RED guide?


Cheers!

Amund

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[PSES] GB 21521-2014 Chinese Energy Efficiency Standard for printers

2017-05-31 Thread Koester, Helmut 
Hello Group,

Does anybody know if there are any exemptions for professional industrial 
printers concerning this Chinese Energy Standard GB 21521-2014?  For example 
printers manufactured and imported to China only in small quantities and 
marketed only by specialized retailers.

Many thanks in advance for your help.

Regards
Helmut Koester
h.koes...@psi-laser.de


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