Re: [PSES] Ground Bond Tests

2021-05-13 Thread Richard Nute
 

Hi Steve:

 

First, one of my clients has been told by their 3rd party NRTL that a ground 
bond test is required as part of factory/production routine tests, even though 
it is not required by 61010-1.  I have never run into this requirement in my 
work history and I would be interested in hearing if any of you have. 

 

In my experience, which dates back to UL1244 and UL478, no standard specified 
routine production tests.  Nevertheless, our contract with UL and CSA required 
hi-pot and grounding continuity tests.  These production tests have been 
implemented ever since then.  Regardless of the standard, the NRTL can demand, 
through its contract with the manufacturer, production-line tests.  

 

Second, just to be sure my interpretation is correct, 61010-1, section 6.5.2.4, 
Impedance of protective bonding of plug-connected equipment, in the fist 
sentence, it has a limit of 100 mOhms impedance and my read is that this is for 
equipment with a power cord that has a plug on one end and a receptacle on the 
other. 

 

In my experience, the protective bonding impedance measured from any grounded 
part (whether accessible or not) to the main protective bonding terminal (where 
the power cord terminates on the equipment end) is 0.1 ohm maximum.  The power 
cord protective conductor resistance is not included in the equipment bonding 
impedance measurement.   (8 feet of #18 stranded copper wire is 0.051 ohms, 
half of the 0.1 ohm requirement.)  

 

(Back in the “old days” for me, the bonding impedance, including the power 
cord, was 0.5 ohm.)  

 

In the May, 2014, Symposium, I presented “Equipotentiality and Grounding, 
Derivation of grounding resistance for equipment.”  If you don’t have a copy, I 
will be happy to forward a copy of either the presentation or the paper or 
both.  

 

(As an aside, only the fault current path need meet the impedance criterion.   
Those grounded parts that are not in the fault-current path need not be tested. 
 And, those grounded parts that are separated from mains by double or 
reinforced insulation are not required to have 0.1-ohm impedance to the PE 
terminal or subject to the routine test.  However, such testing may be 
expedient for a production-line test.)  

 

(I had a ground impedance failure on a PCB by a NRTL.  The test was not the 
current path.  We pointed this out; the test was repeated on the actual current 
path and passed.)

 

Then, in the same section, still under the title of plug-connected equipment, 
it says for equipment that has a non-detachable power cord  the limit is 200 
mOhms.  My interpretation is that plug-connected equipment with a 
non-detachable power cord is when the power cord is hard wired to the unit 
under test, but still has a plug for mains connection. 

 

The 0.2 ohm limit accounts for both the resistance of the power cord and the 
impedance of the equipment.  I agree with you that a non-detachable power cord 
is hard-wired the equipment.  

 

Stay safe, and best regards,

Rich

 

 

 

 


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[PSES] EU DoC on Thumb Drive?

2021-05-13 Thread Carl Newton

Group,

I've not been able to find anything that suggests that the EU DoC can be 
provided with the product electronically for a medical device.  I sent 
an inquiry to the commission and received no response.  The MDD and MDR 
require that the DoC is shipped with each product  and I have a customer 
that would like to include it on a thumb drive document package that 
will ship with the device rather than a paper hard-copy.


Do any of you have experience with this question that you can share?

Thanks in advance,

Carl


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