Re: [PSES] BREXIT - UK Designated Standards

2021-08-09 Thread Carl Newton

Excellent reference Han.  Thanks  very much.

Carl

On 8/9/2021 2:39 AM, Han Zuyderwijk wrote:

Hi Carl.

Please refer to this page of the UK government website:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/designated-standards 



The UK Government can designate EN standards, ISO standards and IEC 
standards besides BS standards.


On the webpage you will read this clarification:

/“Designated standards are prefixed “BS”, “EN”, “EN ISO” or “EN IEC”. 
The “EN” prefix indicates that the standard has been adopted by a 
European standardising body. Where the designated standard specified 
in the notice of publication is prefixed “EN” it is acceptable to 
reference this version in technical documentation, or a version of the 
same standard with a national prefix. This is because European 
standards are adopted identically by the 34 national members of CEN 
and CENELEC./


/For example: BS EN 71-1:2014+A1:2018, DIN EN 71-1:2014+A1:2018, or 
simply EN 71-1:2014+A1:2018 are all equally acceptable./


/While the essential legal requirements in GB remain the same as the 
equivalent EU law, the informative Annex ZA/ZZ and any references to 
EU law in designated standards should be read as applying to the 
legislation for GB in the same way, subject to any restrictions or 
points made in the relevant notice of publication. This will change if 
and when the essential legal requirements in GB change. We have asked 
BSI to ensure that any new or revised designated standards map across 
to the essential legal requirements in GB."/


Hope this is helpful.

Kind Regards,

Han

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On 8 Aug 2021, 23:52 +0200, Carl Newton , wrote:


I'm seeing conflicting information as to whether the UK Declaration 
of Conformity "Designated Standards" should be the "BS" versions or 
the "EN" versions. Every source that I've seen (including very 
reputable sources) has stated that the BS version should be cited. 
However, I'm seeing that the "EN" versions are being listed as the 
Designated Standards at the GOV.UK web site. The following link 
references the EMC standards for this example:


https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/designated-standards-emc 



It seems pretty clear to me that for now and the foreseeable future 
that the European Norm "EN" versions are also the UK Designated 
Standards. But I'm looking for safety in numbers here.


Thanks,

Carl



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Re: [PSES] BREXIT - UK Designated Standards

2021-08-09 Thread Chris Wordley
Hi Carl

In the lead up to Brexit it was indeed suggested that BS versions would be 
required for the UK.

As you note, the actual situation is that the UK government has published lists 
of designated standards, which overwhelmingly cite the EN version so these are 
the versions to use. 

At the start of the year the UK designated standards lists and the EU 
harmonised standards lists were the same, but as the EU and UK now have 
separate processes for determining which standards to publish as harmonised / 
designated standards, some differences are starting to emerge e.g. the EU 
updated the HS list for RED last month, the UK’s list has not changed in the 
last 8 months. 

Best Regards

Chris 

> On 8 Aug 2021, at 22:52, Carl Newton  wrote:
> 
> I'm seeing conflicting information as to whether the UK Declaration of 
> Conformity "Designated Standards" should  be the "BS" versions or the "EN" 
> versions.  Every source that I've seen (including very reputable sources) has 
> stated that the BS version should be cited.  However, I'm seeing that the 
> "EN" versions are being listed as the Designated Standards at the GOV.UK web 
> site.  The following link references the EMC standards for this example:
> 
> https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/designated-standards-emc 
> 
> It seems pretty clear to me that for now and the foreseeable future that the 
> European Norm "EN" versions are also the UK Designated Standards.  But I'm 
> looking for safety in numbers here.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Carl
> 
> 
> 
> 
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