Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC?

2021-12-16 Thread John Woodgate 
My advice is always cite, because Mr. Militant Customs Man can challenge 
your import because there is no proof on the DoC that you have taken all 
the amendments into account. You don't need to list every amendment; 
'and all amendments up to the date of dispatch' should be enough.


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On 2021-12-16 20:23, Charlie Blackham wrote:


Doug

It’s not required – the applicable Directive is still 2011/65/EU

2015/863 Directive amended it…….as did 60 or so Commission Delegated 
Directives


Whether you like it or not, declaring compliance to RoHS means that 
you are declaring compliance with RoHS, as amended, with applicable 
permitted exemptions if permitted, at the time of signing.


Lots of people like ask to see it on the DoC, so I agree that it won’t 
hurt, probably isn’t “wrong”, but also is not “required”


You do not however declare compliance to RoHS III (it doesn’t exist)

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*Subject:* Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC?

It can't hurt to cite it. There are cases where a citation is not 
allowed, but I don't think this is one of them.


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On 2021-12-16 19:48, Douglas E Powell wrote:

All,

Given that Directive 2011/65/EU has been amended by Directive (EU)
2015/863, is it now necessary to reference the amendment on the
Declaration of Conformity?

This is an amendment to Annex II, and "RoHS III" appears
terminology used by the unwashed masses.

Thoughts?

-Doug

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Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC?

2021-12-16 Thread Charlie Blackham 
Doug

It’s not required – the applicable Directive is still 2011/65/EU

2015/863 Directive amended it…….as did 60 or so Commission Delegated Directives

Whether you like it or not, declaring compliance to RoHS means that you are 
declaring compliance with RoHS, as amended, with applicable permitted 
exemptions if permitted, at the time of signing.

Lots of people like ask to see it on the DoC, so I agree that it won’t hurt, 
probably isn’t “wrong”, but also is not “required”

You do not however declare compliance to RoHS III (it doesn’t exist)

Best regards
Charlie

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Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/
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From: John Woodgate 
Sent: 16 December 2021 20:19
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC?


It can't hurt to cite it. There are cases where a citation is not allowed, but 
I don't think this is one of them.
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All,

Given that Directive 2011/65/EU has been amended by Directive (EU) 2015/863, is 
it now necessary to reference the amendment on the Declaration of Conformity?

This is an amendment to Annex II, and "RoHS III" appears terminology used by 
the unwashed masses.

Thoughts?

-Doug


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Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC?

2021-12-16 Thread John Woodgate 
It can't hurt to cite it. There are cases where a citation is not 
allowed, but I don't think this is one of them.


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On 2021-12-16 19:48, Douglas E Powell wrote:

All,

Given that Directive 2011/65/EU has been amended by Directive (EU) 
2015/863, is it now necessary to reference the amendment on the 
Declaration of Conformity?


This is an amendment to Annex II, and "RoHS III" appears terminology 
used by the unwashed masses.


Thoughts?

-Doug


Douglas E Powell
Laporte, Colorado USA
doug...@gmail.com
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[PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC?

2021-12-16 Thread Douglas E Powell 
All,

Given that Directive 2011/65/EU has been amended by Directive (EU)
2015/863, is it now necessary to reference the amendment on the Declaration
of Conformity?

This is an amendment to Annex II, and "RoHS III" appears terminology used
by the unwashed masses.

Thoughts?

-Doug


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