Re: [PSES] EMC/SIPI symposium question

[doug emcesd.com]

Hi Curt and the group,

I believe that by then or a little later the number may be 90%. If that happens 
and does not trigger restrictions, it would be a good thing as Omicron seems to 
be for most people a head cold.

I guess there is no way to know for sure so far in the future. That is why I 
think I will delay registering until the summer. Hopefully by then we will know 
more. The problem is if everyone does that it will drive the Symposium 
organizers nuts trying to plan everything and having everyone register two 
weeks before.

One complicating issue is many of the people in EMC are getting on in years 
which makes pandemic planning more uncertain for them. I may be the exception 
to the rule being 74 and I can still outrun most 30 year olds, especially at 
115 degrees in the Southern Nevada desert!

Doug
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From: Curt McNamara 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 9:35
To: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org
Cc: doug emcesd.com ; doug...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PSES] EMC/SIPI symposium question

I see chatter about Covid on the list, and this article has a lot of good info:

"By the end of February, 36%-46% of the US population will have been infected 
with Omicron"
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/what-now-how-pandemics-end

Curt

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 11:30 AM Douglas E Powell 
mailto:doug...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Doug,

I've been seeing reports from some nations that the case load is beginning to 
trend down. Whether this is a result of everyone being exposed and the general 
population gaining some natural immunity is unknown. However, a small number of 
professionals are beginning to talk about the pandemic transitioning to an 
endemic in certain locations. Your guess is as good as mine as to when that may 
happen in this country.

Where I live, restrictions are still in place, and I do not see any light in 
the tunnel yet.

-Doug


Douglas E Powell
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 3:05 PM doug 
emcesd.com
 mailto:d...@emcesd.com>> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I just saw an announcement from the Symposium in August in Spokane, WI and had 
a question.

What is the current Covid climate like there from the point of review of 
restrictions and as a local, do you think it will change by the end of summer? 
The kind of typical restrictions I see around the country would make the event 
not worth attending for me, certainly taking away from the pleasure of going to 
the Symposium, potentially increasing the cost of going there significantly.

I am hoping that like England, Ireland, and Denmark have done, all the 
restrictions will go away soon here.

Here in Boulder City, NV my personal life has been very little effected during 
the pandemic. I hope Spokane is the same.

Doug
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Re: [PSES] EMC/SIPI symposium question

[Douglas E Powell]

Doug,

I've been seeing reports from some nations that the case load is beginning
to trend down. Whether this is a result of everyone being exposed and the
general population gaining some natural immunity is unknown. However, a
small number of professionals are beginning to talk about the pandemic
transitioning to an endemic in certain locations. Your guess is as good as
mine as to when that may happen in this country.

Where I live, restrictions are still in place, and I do not see any light
in the tunnel yet.

-Doug


Douglas E Powell
Laporte, Colorado USA
doug...@gmail.com
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 3:05 PM doug emcesd.com  wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
>
>
> I just saw an announcement from the Symposium in August in Spokane, WI and
> had a question.
>
>
>
> What is the current Covid climate like there from the point of review of
> restrictions and as a local, do you think it will change by the end of
> summer? The kind of typical restrictions I see around the country would
> make the event not worth attending for me, certainly taking away from the
> pleasure of going to the Symposium, potentially increasing the cost of
> going there significantly.
>
>
>
> I am hoping that like England, Ireland, and Denmark have done, all the
> restrictions will go away soon here.
>
>
>
> Here in Boulder City, NV my personal life has been very little effected
> during the pandemic. I hope Spokane is the same.
>
>
>
> Doug
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>
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Re: [PSES] EMC/SIPI symposium question

[doug emcesd.com]

Thanks, Dan and others for your thoughts. I think I will probably wait to 
register until a week or two before the Symposium.

I have two concerns. One is just the fact that just having restrictions takes a 
lot of the fun out of coming. Social distancing and masking would definitely 
make the Symposium experience less appealing.

The other is getting stuck there and not being able to come home because of a 
false positive test as the tests are not that reliable. That would be a 
disaster.

I don’t worry about coming down with Covid myself while there as the chances of 
that happening for me is approximately zero given I have not had a sore throat, 
cold, or flu in 50 years now since I figured out, for me, how to eliminate 
viral diseases. I never get sick anymore even when around sick people.

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From: Dan Roman 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 5:41:26 AM
To: doug emcesd.com ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 

Subject: RE: [PSES] EMC/SIPI symposium question


Hi Doug,



Based on the events of the past two years I think the only thing that you can 
predict for the symposium is that conditions in a pandemic are unpredictable.  
We have no hope of getting rid of variants until the whole world is vaccinated 
and boosted (probably multiple times at the current rate of vaccination).  So 
who can say if a peak of upsilon or omega will coincide with the symposium?  
Depends also on the policies of the symposium organizers.  CES proceeded with 
their live in-person show this month with vaccine mandates and testing.  
Probably won’t know for another week if it resulted in a COVID bloom.  But if 
it proves to have been successfully and safely conducted, it could be a model 
for future conference organizers.



Dan





From: doug emcesd.com [mailto:d...@emcesd.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 5:05 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] EMC/SIPI symposium question



Hi Everyone,



I just saw an announcement from the Symposium in August in Spokane, WI and had 
a question.



What is the current Covid climate like there from the point of review of 
restrictions and as a local, do you think it will change by the end of summer? 
The kind of typical restrictions I see around the country would make the event 
not worth attending for me, certainly taking away from the pleasure of going to 
the Symposium, potentially increasing the cost of going there significantly.



I am hoping that like England, Ireland, and Denmark have done, all the 
restrictions will go away soon here.



Here in Boulder City, NV my personal life has been very little effected during 
the pandemic. I hope Spokane is the same.



Doug

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Re: [PSES] Railway EMC requirements in USA

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Hi Paolo,

See:

IEEE Std. 1476 (power supply)

IEEE Std. 16 (EMC)


B.R.

Andrea

> Il 28/01/2022 16:02 Ruth Shapira  ha scritto:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Paolo,
> 
>  
> 
> I find in my documentation the following references to Railways req in US:
> 
>  
> 
> Passenger Train Emergency Preparedness Regulations and the Passenger Equipment
> 
> Safety Standard, both issued in 1999.
> 
>  
> 
> System Safety Program Standard 49 CFR Part 659 Reference §659.45(a)(3)(i) and 
> §659.31(a)(2)
> 
>  
> 
> MIL-STD-882 E and DO-178 (informative)
> 
>  
> 
> I am not sure if these docs refer also to EMC.
> 
>  
> 
> Maybe the above help.
> 
>  
> 
> Best Regards and Be Safe,
> 
> Steli
> 
>  
> 
> Steli Loznen, M.Sc., SM-IEEE
> 
> VP for Technical Activities and Member of BoG IEEE-PSES
> 
> Convener IEC 62A/MT29+MT 62354
> 
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> e-mail: sloz...@ieee.org
> 
>  
> 
> From: Paolo Roncone 
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:38 PM
> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: [PSES] Railway EMC requirements in USA
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> anyone can tell me if there is an EMC standard specific for the railway 
> environment in the USA, that would cover all hardware used in the railway 
> environment, both onboard trains and in the adjacent infrastructure in USA?
> 
> I mean something equivalent to the EN / IEC standards, but specific to USA:
> 
> 
> EN 50121-x / IEC 62236-x
> 
> for example:
> 
> EN 50121-3-2 / IEC 62236-3-2
> 
> EN 50121-4 / IEC 62236-4
> 
> EN 50121-5 / IEC 62236-5
> 
> 
> I tried the Search box in the FCC Part 47 page, but came up with nothing..
> 
> Maybe the FCC accepts compliance to the above mentioned IEC standards ?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance for any feedback !
> 
> 
> Best regards
> 
> 
> Paolo Roncone
> 
> 
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Re: [PSES] Railway EMC requirements in USA

[Ruth Shapira]

Hi Paolo,

I find in my documentation the following references to Railways req in US:

Passenger Train Emergency Preparedness Regulations and the Passenger Equipment
Safety Standard, both issued in 1999.

System Safety Program Standard 49 CFR Part 659 Reference §659.45(a)(3)(i) and 
§659.31(a)(2)

MIL-STD-882 E and DO-178 (informative)

I am not sure if these docs refer also to EMC.

Maybe the above help.

Best Regards and Be Safe,
Steli

Steli Loznen, M.Sc., SM-IEEE
VP for Technical Activities and Member of BoG IEEE-PSES
Convener IEC 62A/MT29+MT 62354
17-3 Shaul HaMelech Blvd.
Tel Aviv 6436719
Israel
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From: Paolo Roncone 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:38 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Railway EMC requirements in USA

Hi all,

anyone can tell me if there is an EMC standard specific for the railway 
environment in the USA, that would cover all hardware used in the railway 
environment, both onboard trains and in the adjacent infrastructure in USA?
I mean something equivalent to the EN / IEC standards, but specific to USA:

EN 50121-x / IEC 62236-x
for example:
EN 50121-3-2 / IEC 62236-3-2
EN 50121-4 / IEC 62236-4
EN 50121-5 / IEC 62236-5

I tried the Search box in the FCC Part 47 page, but came up with nothing..
Maybe the FCC accepts compliance to the above mentioned IEC standards ?

Thanks in advance for any feedback !

Best regards

Paolo Roncone


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Re: [PSES] EMC/SIPI symposium question

[Dan Roman]

Hi Doug,

 

Based on the events of the past two years I think the only thing that you
can predict for the symposium is that conditions in a pandemic are
unpredictable.  We have no hope of getting rid of variants until the whole
world is vaccinated and boosted (probably multiple times at the current rate
of vaccination).  So who can say if a peak of upsilon or omega will coincide
with the symposium?  Depends also on the policies of the symposium
organizers.  CES proceeded with their live in-person show this month with
vaccine mandates and testing.  Probably won't know for another week if it
resulted in a COVID bloom.  But if it proves to have been successfully and
safely conducted, it could be a model for future conference organizers.

 

Dan

 

 

From: doug emcesd.com [mailto:d...@emcesd.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 5:05 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] EMC/SIPI symposium question

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I just saw an announcement from the Symposium in August in Spokane, WI and
had a question.

 

What is the current Covid climate like there from the point of review of
restrictions and as a local, do you think it will change by the end of
summer? The kind of typical restrictions I see around the country would make
the event not worth attending for me, certainly taking away from the
pleasure of going to the Symposium, potentially increasing the cost of going
there significantly.

 

I am hoping that like England, Ireland, and Denmark have done, all the
restrictions will go away soon here.

 

Here in Boulder City, NV my personal life has been very little effected
during the pandemic. I hope Spokane is the same.

 

Doug



 

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[PSES] Railway EMC requirements in USA

[Paolo Roncone]

Hi all,

anyone can tell me if there is an EMC standard specific for the railway
environment in the USA, that would cover all hardware used in the railway
environment, both onboard trains and in the adjacent infrastructure in USA?
I mean something equivalent to the EN / IEC standards, but specific to USA:

EN 50121-x / IEC 62236-x
for example:
EN 50121-3-2 / IEC 62236-3-2
EN 50121-4 / IEC 62236-4
EN 50121-5 / IEC 62236-5

I tried the Search box in the FCC Part 47 page, but came up with nothing..
Maybe the FCC accepts compliance to the above mentioned IEC standards ?

Thanks in advance for any feedback !

Best regards

Paolo Roncone

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