Position wanted in Italy

2001-11-23 Thread David Instone

Dear All,
   Today I leave my position at Xyratex UK.  I go to Rome to be with the
love of my life.

  If any of you have contacts in Italy that could be of use to me I
would really appreciate it if you would contact me on:

mailto:dave_inst...@ieee.org
 
The following is a short CV:  I hope I offend no one by doing this.
 
David E. Instone:  Member of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics
Engineers (IEEE)
Senior Compliance and SI Engineer.  Xyratex Storage Solutions Division

I have accrued a wide knowledge and skill base extending over many
disciplines during my working life.  In addition to my primary
discipline of electronics I have skills in RF and microwave
measurements, in mechanical engineering and drawing.  My range of
abilities enables me to produce and inspire many novel and innovative
measurement, test and design solutions.  My employment with Xyratex
ensured that I was kept aware of the latest developments.  In
particular, in Fibre Channel I have recently been actively involved in
steering those developments.

My work and expertise were unique within Xyratex.  I personally
developed measurement techniques, and use them, to measure the signal
parameters - amplitude, jitter and impedance - of high-speed serial data
links such as Fibre Channel, Gigabit Ethernet, 1394b and InfiniBand.

I was primarily assigned to the Storage Solutions Division of Xyratex.  
However, all the divisions within Xyratex used my expertise. The
majority of my work concentrated on the Fibre Channel and SCSI products
designed and produced by Xyratex.  During the design phase I gave advice
on the requirements and interpretation of the Fibre Channel
specifications.  Before and during the PCB layout stage I advised on
component placement and the routing of impedance critical traces.  I
checked all new Fibre Channel designs to ensure that the signal
parameters specified in the relevant ANSI and NCITS standards were met.

Xyratex also made my compliance and advisory services available to other
companies.  VLSI Technology Inc. IBM and EMC Corp. have used my services
extensively.

My responsibilities also included representing Xyratex at the bi-monthly
meetings in the USA of the NCITS T11 Fibre Channel Technical Committee
and Task Groups T11.2 and T11.3.
I am a respected member of the Methodology for Jitter Specification and
Signal Quality, and the Copper Interconnect groups of T11.2.  I have
been actively contributing to their work since 1996.

I contributed towards the measurement methods sections of NCITS
Technical Report TR-25-1999: Fibre Channel - Methodologies for Jitter
Specification.  I was technical editor of the electrical interconnect
sections of the new Fibre Channel FC-PI specification.
I have been involved with 1394a and 1394b including the creation of IEEE
standard 1394a: 2000.

From 1995 to 1996 I attended the T10.2 SSA Technical group.  I am
recognised as a world expert in the field of SSA (Serial Storage
Architecture) signal parameter specifications and played a key role in
the creation of the following ANSI Standards:
ANSI X3.293-1996 Physical Layer 1 (SSA-PH1)
ANSI NCITS 307-1997 Physical Layer 2 (SSA-PH2)

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Dave Instone. Compliance Engineer
 Storage Systems Development, MP24/22
 Xyratex, Langstone Rd., Havant, Hampshire, P09 1SA, UK.
Tel: +44 (0)23-92-496862 (direct line)
Fax: +44 (0)23-92-496014
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Re: STP vs FTP Ethernet cables (2)

2001-09-06 Thread David Instone

I agree with Paolo, the definition refers to a shielded TWISTED-PAIR
cable.  Note also that twisted pair is hyphenated.  While the definition
might better have been worded to refer to 'one or more TWISTED-PAIRS,
each of which...'  rather than 'elements' it is not difficult to argue
that the intention was that an 'element' was refering to a
'twisted-pair' and not each wire of the twisted pair/s.  One might also
argue that a cable is not a cable unless made of more than one
separately insulated wires, but this is a somewhat more tenous argument.
Dave

Paolo Roncone wrote:
 
 Doug,
 
 I re-paste the first part of the definition in IEEE 802.3 (2000):
 
 1.4.249 shielded twisted-pair (STP)cable: An electrically conducting
 cable,comprising one or more ele-
 ments,each of which is individually shielded.There may be an overall
 shield,in which case the cable is
 referred to as shielded twisted-pair cable with an overall shield
 (from ISO/IEC 11801:1995)
 
 My understanding is that elements should refer to individual PAIRS
 (signal/return), rather than single wires. But - as I said in my
 previous e-mail - I'd like to check whether this is put into practice
 by some vendors. So far I didn't get any clue on this.
 The STP cables that I found so far (form a couple of vendors) have
 just an OVERALL shield around all wires, and these are identical to
 FTP (Foiled Twisted Pair) cables that are also on the market.
 I agree with you, something doesn't sound right...
 
 Paolo
 
 At 09:36 05/09/2001 -0700, Doug McKean wrote:
 
  Paolo Roncone wrote:
  
   The reason of my inquiry is that we bought samples of
  STP and
  FTP
   cat.5 cables for 10bT ethernet applications from different
  vendors
  and to
   our surprise we discovered that both STP and FTP types
  have an
   overall (external) shield made of aluminum foil, but no
  shields on
  individual
   wires or wire couples (as per 802.3 definition above).
 
  Maintaining a characteristic impedence of a twisted pair
  by shielding the individual wires of that twisted pair?
 
  Something doesn't sound right.
 
  - Doug McKean
 
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 Xyratex, Langstone Rd., Havant, Hampshire, P09 1SA, UK.
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Re: New laser standards

2001-06-12 Thread David Instone

Doug,
  You may find the following usefull

ftp://ftp.t11.org/t11/pub/fc/10gfc/01-276v0.pdf

Although titled 'Laser Safety for Parallel Optic Products' the fist few
pages deal with changes in eyesafety generally

Dave

Massey, Doug C. wrote:
 
 Hello Group -
 
 Can anyone direct me to an informative article, link, etc., that summarizes
 the impact of Amendment 2 to IEC 60825-1, released in January of this year ?
 I've reviewed the amendment and am aware of the basic differences it brings
 in classification, but it sure would be nice to have a synopsis of all the
 changes. Also, does anyone know how soon the changes will be incorporated
 into a new release of the standard ? The IEC website does not list a target
 date for release, although the status of edition 1.2 shows it being out for
 printing since early May.
 
 Also, CDRH Laser Notice # 50, published late May, harmonizes, to some
 degree, 21CFR to the IEC 60825-1 standard, with the notable exception of
 production line test requirments, record keeping, and some product marking
 requirements, which are being kept by the CDRH. Has anyone heard if the CDRH
 product report formats will be changed ? I'm thinking an IEC-60825-1 report,
 with US national deviations, if you will, may be acceptable to the CDRH at
 some point in the future, in lieu of their existing published report format.
 
 Of greater concern is the lack of a specified transition period and
 mandatory compliance dates in either standard (at least I can't find them).
 Will existing laser classifications be grandfathered? When will laser
 product manufacturers be required to label products according to the new
 classifications? I can see the new classifications causing much confusion
 among customers, who may have, say, Class2 laser products, then buying
 additional units of the same product, which might be labeled as Class 2M,
 for instance.
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 Doug Massey
 Safety Approvals Engineer
 LXE, Inc.
 Norcross, GA., USA
 Ph.  (770) 447-4224 x3607
 FAX (770) 447-6928
 e-mail: masse...@lxe.com
 
 Cruise our website at: http:\\www.lxe.com
 
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Re: 2. 4 GHz cordless telephone, question of general interest

2001-04-23 Thread David Instone

Ken Javor wrote:
 
 Just goes to show you can find anything on the net.  I have measured leakage
 from microwave ovens and every one was at 2450 MHz.  And that IS a resonant
 frequency for water and water alone.  That's why you can put waterless items
 in and they won't heat up,

Hm, now I wonder how the the totally dry and empty pottery plate I put
in the microwave to heat (before I put my non microwave cooked food on
it) gets too hot to hold after just 60 seconds at 650W.


 and also why you should never run a microwave
 oven without a water load: with no load you get high vswr and the magnetron
 can be damaged by reflected energy.
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Re: EN Documents

2001-04-18 Thread David Instone

Probably, but then you might want to 'educate' yourself by reading the
standard!

Definitely my own opinion!

Dick Grobner wrote:
 
 Doesn't this infringe on copyright laws?
 My understanding is - that you can copy a limited number of pages only if it
 is used for educational purposes. I cannot fine my reference document at the
 moment but remember reading this not so long ago.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Chileshe [mailto:chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk]
 Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:50 AM
 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
 Subject: RE: EN Documents
 
 In addition to what John Woodgate has written below..
 
 If you are interested in only a *very* small section of the standard, then
 you may
 be able to photocopy a limited number of pages from your public library for
 a fee.
 
 However, chances are that if the standard is relevant, you will end up
 having to
 buy the whole document anyway.
 
 You will find the BSI website at http://www.bsi-global.com/index.html
 
 Regards
 
 - Chris Chileshe

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Re: we need some information

2000-11-30 Thread David Instone

Thank you Ross,
  Your quotation from Websters illustrates the point beautifully. 
Misuse of a word corrupts its original meaning.  If done often enough
the dictionaries, like all good dictionaries should, list these
technically incorrect but common meanings.  
   This is how languages develope, but also how they get corrupted.  I
have no problem with the first, but a pet hate of the second.  And a
problem with my punctuation it seems g
Dave


Lichtenstein, Ross wrote:
 
 Here's Webster's Second Edition New World Dictionary definition:
 
 ball bearing  1. a bearing in which the moving parts revolve or slide on
 freely rolling metal balls so that friction is reduced  2. any of such metal
 balls
 
 I think, however, that it would be more appropriate and descriptive to
 identify these objects by any of the following:
 
  BALL, BEARING (military form)
  BEARING BALL
  BALL BEARING BALL
 
 Ross  ;)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: david_inst...@uk.xyratex.com [mailto:david_inst...@uk.xyratex.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 5:03 AM
 To: Cortland Richmond
 Cc: michael.sundst...@nokia.com; ieee pstc list
 Subject: Re: we need some information
 
 Just a litle pet hate of mine, but ball BEARINGS consist of both the
 races AND the STEEL BALL  (or plastic sometimes) but that little round
 bit we all like to use as missiles or for the game of marbles is a BALL
 not a ball BEARING.

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 Xyratex, Langstone Rd., Havant, Hampshire, P09 1SA, UK.
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Re: we need some information

2000-11-29 Thread David Instone

Just a litle pet hate of mine, but ball BEARINGS consist of both the
races AND the STEEL BALL  (or plastic sometimes) but that little round
bit we all like to use as missiles or for the game of marbles is a BALL
not a ball BEARING.





Cortland Richmond wrote:
 
 Slingshot? Heh!  Used a CRT focussing coil with a Lionel train transformer,
 actually. By quickly making and breaking the connections I could time the
 current so it would accelerate the ball bearing smartly.
 
 Cortland
 
 == Original Message Follows 
 
   Date:  28-Nov-00 06:20:06  MsgID: 1077-5083  ToID: 72146,373
 From:  michael.sundst...@nokia.com INTERNET:michael.sundst...@nokia.com
 Subj:  RE: we need some information
 Chrg:  $0.00   Imp: Norm   Sens: StdReceipt: NoParts: 1
 
 From: michael.sundst...@nokia.com
 Subject: RE: we need some information
 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:16:19 -0600
 
 A slingshot?
 
 == End of Original Message =
 
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RE: Have I baffled the Product Safety Technical Committee?????

2000-10-09 Thread David Instone

The following from a collegue of mine may help:

If it helps improve the confusion over UL and their flame ratings, a
Class 2 Flammability rating  comes from UL900 Air Filter Units. Taking
straight form the standard,

Class 1 Units - Those that, when clean, do not contribute fuel when
attacked by flame and emit only negligible amounts of smoke.

Class 2 Units - Those that, when clean, burn moderately when attached by
flame or emit moderate amounts of smoke, or both.

We had a similar problem on a product being tested to UL3111-1 where a
Class 1 filter material  was employed. We tested the material ourselves
and found it to correspond to an HF-1 rating. With this and the Class 1
definition, UL accepted it's use under the conditions of Annex F of
UL3111-1 - Reducing the Fuel available to a fire.


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 Xyratex, Langstone Rd., Havant, Hampshire, P09 1SA, UK.
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Re: earth bonding stud

2000-10-09 Thread David Instone

I'm going back at least a dozen years to when I last had to deal with
this.  At the time the requirement was that the earth wire could not be
removed without the use of a tool. I found that the tag gave me enough
torque with my thumb to loosen the nut sufficiently to enable the 
(nyloc) nut to be undone with my fingers.  We cured the problem by
placing the stud close to a side frame member so that it prevented
rotating the tag.

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Colgan, Chris wrote:
 
 Hello group
 
 Having only ever dealt with Class II double insulated products, we are going
 to produce a Class I earthed product.  We have an M4 stud in the baseplate
 and I have to spec the method of connecting the stud to the IEC mains inlet
 to provide chassis bonding to earth.
 
 I was going to suggest the following stack of parts:
 
 M4 crinkle washer, M4 solder terminal, M4 crinkle washer, M4 Nyloc nut.
 
 Does anyone think that this might prove unsuitable?
 
 Regards
 
 Chris Colgan
 EMC  Safety
  TAG McLaren Audio Ltd
 The Summit, Latham Road
 Huntingdon, Cambs, PE29 6ZU
 United Kingdom
  * Phone: +44 (0)1480 415627
  * Fax: +44 (0)1480 415689
  * Mailto:chris.col...@tagmclarenaudio.com
  * http://www.tagmclarenaudio.com
 

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Re: High voltage power lines vs human/animal/plant safety

2000-08-04 Thread David Instone

Lizette,
   My fiancee works in this field.  The best place to start would be the
website of the bioelectromagnetics society

http://www.bioelectromagnetics.com

They have a meeting every year in the US.  I happened to be in the same
hotel on a Fibre Channel meeting as this society in '98.  I remember
seeing some reference to lichen under HV lines being affected, the
research in this case was done in the UK, Wales I think, but I can't
remember by whom.

I'm going to be out of email contact for the following week but contact
me 14 Aug onwards if you need more leads.

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Jim Bacher wrote:
 
 forwarding for Lizette
 
 Reply Separator
 Subject:High voltage power lines vs human/animal/plant safety
 Author: Lizette de Vries-Venter dvve...@sabs.co.za
 Date:   8/3/00 7:52 AM
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 I know this is not a new subject, but what  I am looking for is the latest
 information from credible sources on these issues.  We are going to do a wide
 spread study that inlcudes these concerns and I would like to consider the
 latest information and practices.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Lizette de Vries-Venter
 EXPLOSION PREVENTION TECHNOLOGY
 SABS
 
 Tel: +27 12 428 6990
 Fax: +27 12 428 6854
 E-mail: dvve...@sabs.co.za

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Re: Equipment Rental 2

2000-07-11 Thread David Instone

Try http://www.livingston.co.uk/rental.html

 


rehel...@mmm.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for everyone who sent me rental information but I did not word the
 question correctly. I would prefer not to take equipment with me from the U.S.
 to the U.K. I am looking to rent the equipment in England preferably near
 Darlington.
 
 Thanks,
 Bob Heller
 ===
 -- Forwarded by Robert E. Heller/US-Corporate/3M/US on
 07/11/2000 07:31 AM ---
 
 Robert E. Heller
 07/10/2000 01:27 PM
 
   3M Product Safety, St. Paul, MN 55107
   76-1-01
 
   EMC Laboratory Fax:  651-778-6252
 
 
 To:   emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
 cc:
 Subject:  Equipment Rental
 
 I need to rent the following equipment (preferrably in Darlington, U.K.):
 
 * Antennas (EMC 30-1000 MHz)
 * Spectrum Analyzer/EMI Receiver
 * Pre-amp (30-1000 MHz)
 * 2M Tripod
 
 Anyone know of a company?
 
 Regards,
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Re: Stroboscopic light sources

2000-03-30 Thread David Instone

Strobe lights can and do induce epileptic fits in people that are
susceptible to these fits.  What is worse is that it can cause a person
who is a latent epileptic (ie never had a fit) to actually become one
(ie they continue to have fits for the rest of their lives).

Strobe lights are used during an EEG ( particularly with childen) to
determine if a person is a latent epileptic.

The worst frequencies are apparently around the 15Hz area.

The source of this knowledge?  Talking to the specialist while my son
was having these tests done (fortunately he was diagnosed clear).  The
specialists opinion was that disco strobe lights should be banned.


Nick Williams wrote:
 
 Does anyone know of any good resources or actual requirements for the
 safe use of stroboscopic light sources? The application is a public
 science display. I recall rumors of stroboscopes operating at certain
 frequencies being capable of triggering fits, but whether this is
 just an old wive's tale or has some basis in reality I am unclear,
 not do I know of any other potential hazards (except the obvious
 dangers of syncronisation with moving machinery).
 
 All input gratefully received.
 
 Regards
 
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Re: EMC Safety: requirements for BCIQ approval

2000-03-16 Thread David Instone

To all those who replied to my posting, Thank you.

  (I wonder how many deleted it thinking it was on the proposed split.
[A Bad Idea] It was tricky trying to compose a title that would get
through and also go along with the proposal for prefixes of EMC and or
Safety! ) 

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Re: Lead Banned in Europe Japan?

2000-01-19 Thread David Instone

simon_...@emc.com wrote:
 
 A little research on the Internet showed that the proposal comes from a tin
 manufacturers association.  I cannot give you a direct sourse at the moment,
 but it was not difficult to find.  The association's goal is to replace lead
 with tin.
 
Hm, 60/40 tin tin solder, should be fun!
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Re: Y3K

2000-01-18 Thread David Instone

Derek Walton wrote:
 
 Gary,
 
 as a European school kid, we had it driven into us that:
 
 K is for the binary world, i.e. 1K=1024
 k is the metric symbol for 1000
 
 The trouble comes in when folks get sloppy and substitute willy nilly. Perhaps
 we should measure current in volts...;-)))

Someone on this thread mentioned the new IEC units for binary numbers
1024=killi (ki) etc.  The following posting is from the T11 reflector. 
The website refered to is www.t11.org try the DOCS link on the left. 
When downloading documents click on the file desription PDF TXT etc on
the right of the file name to download.

__start of posting_
*
* From the fc reflector, posted by:
* Ed Grivna e...@cypress.com
*
Hi Gang,

it took a while, but I was able to track down the IEC reference that
documents usage of extensions to the SI system of units for
binary-weighted numbers.  The IEC standard is:

IEC 60027-2. Letter symbols to be used in electrical technology.
Part-2: Telecommunications and electronics. Amendment 2, 1999-01.

I have also found out that the IEEE has a draft standard in place
(P1541/D2) documenting the usage of these same units.

I will post a copy of the IEEE draft, and a couple pages of the IEC
standard to the t11 web site.

With this information in hand, I will be making a formal request for
adoption of same at the next T11.2 and T11 plenaries.

end of posting___

Regards,


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Re: Ground lugs

1999-12-21 Thread David Instone

Lacey,Scott wrote:
 
 James,
 Most equipment today uses crimp-on ring terminals, secured to a ground stud
 using a star washer and hex nut. The ground wire from the power inlet goes
 on first, and other safety grounds are stacked on top, each with its own
 star washer and nut. I have never had agency approval problems with this
 type of construction. You must use a double crimp ring terminal, one that
 grips the wire insulation securely.

Many years ago when I worked for a different company we used the crimp
terminal and star washer approach.  We fell foul of the requirement that
to remove the earth connection 'requires the use of a tool'.  I found
that the crimp part gave me sufficient grip to rotate the ring terminal
thereby undoing the nut!  We solved the problem by placing the stud
close to a surface perpendicular to the one in which the stud was fixed.
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Re: New standards -404 error

1999-11-11 Thread David Instone

Actually in the original posting the line wrap put the remaining
characters on the next line so they didn't get included in the 'link'.
If you click as before and then when you get the 404 add 't.html' to the
end of your 'location' window and hit return it works just fine.

In simple terms the url should end with reflist.html and not reflis
 
Just one of the problems of telling your mailer to auto wrap lines
exceeding a certain length!

Dave Instone


Ehler, Kyle wrote:
 
 This link:
 http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg03/directs/dg3b/newapproa/eurstd/harmstds/reflis
 http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg03/directs/dg3b/newapproa/eurstd/harmstds/refli
 s
 Produces a '404' for me.
 I get as far as http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg03/directs/dg3b/
 http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg03/directs/dg3b/newapproa/eurstd/harmstds/refli
 s before the pages are unavailable.
 
 Thanks,
 Kyle
 
 
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