RE: Japan mains voltage
Japan Mains Voltage is 100V. The north half of the country is 50 Hz and the South Half is 60 Hz. Or is it vice-versa... -Original Message- From: Darren Pearson [mailto:dar...@genesysibs.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:46 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Japan mains voltage Can anyone tell me what the mains voltage is in Japan, I think it is 110V but I do not know the frequency. apart from this, does any one know of a web site that gives information about the mains voltage and frequency of various countries ? Regards Darren. Darren Pearson Radio Telecom Approval Services Genesys Singleton Court, Wonastow Road Monmouth, NP25 5JA UK Tel: +44 1600 710300 Fax: +44 1600 710301 email: dar...@genesysibs.com mailto:dar...@genesysibs.com web: www.genesysibs.com http://www.genesysibs.com
RE: EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6
So what do I do? Follow the EN 50130-4 : 1996 standard that states; The test apparatus procedure shall be as described in ENV 50141 : 1993, with the following modifications and clarifications taken into account. or do I substitute EN 61000-4-6 in place of ENV 50141. -Original Message- From: CE-test - Ing. Gert Gremmen - ce-marking and more... [mailto:cet...@cetest.nl] Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 10:55 AM To: Mavis, Robert; John Woodgate; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6 It looks as if you are right, but in the case of any ENV version of a standard, this calling out is incorrect. Any ENV standard is NOT a standard. It was never meant to be used as a standard but temporarily. The EN version following it WAS. However, in this case the EN 50141 was not published, so the only alternative is the EN 61000-4-6. The ENV version, as it says itself, automatically becomes non-existent as soon as its successor is published. Regards, Gert Gremmen, (Ing) ce-test, qualified testing === Web presence http://www.cetest.nl CE-shop http://www.cetest.nl/ce_shop.htm /-/ Compliance testing is our core business /-/ === -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Mavis, Robert Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 4:55 AM To: John Woodgate; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6 John, Even though the ENV is a pre-standard, if a Product Family Standard calls it out you must test to it. Am I not correct. Case in point, EN 50130-4 Product Family Standard for Alarm Systems calls out specifically ENV 50141 not EN 61000-4-6. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:29 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6 I read in !emc-pstc that Chris Chileshe chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk wrote (in 01c19a92.f4398e80.chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk) about 'EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6', on Fri, 11 Jan 2002: I am testing to the generic immunity standard EN 61000-6-2 which refers to EN 61000-4-6 for immunity to conducted disturbances induced by radio-frequency fields. A query has arisen that EN 50141 is missing from my list of tests. Is my understanding correct that these two standards are essentially the same? I do not have a copy of either and currently awaiting delivery of EN 61000-4-6 which I have recently purchased. 50141 is an ENV (a 'pre-standard'), not an EN and is not called up by EN61000-6-2. Whoever threatened you with 'EN50141' is unaware of the facts. If it was a test-house, get another one! -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy
RE: EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6
John, Even though the ENV is a pre-standard, if a Product Family Standard calls it out you must test to it. Am I not correct. Case in point, EN 50130-4 Product Family Standard for Alarm Systems calls out specifically ENV 50141 not EN 61000-4-6. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:29 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6 I read in !emc-pstc that Chris Chileshe chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk wrote (in 01c19a92.f4398e80.chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk) about 'EN 50141 and EN 61000-4-6', on Fri, 11 Jan 2002: I am testing to the generic immunity standard EN 61000-6-2 which refers to EN 61000-4-6 for immunity to conducted disturbances induced by radio-frequency fields. A query has arisen that EN 50141 is missing from my list of tests. Is my understanding correct that these two standards are essentially the same? I do not have a copy of either and currently awaiting delivery of EN 61000-4-6 which I have recently purchased. 50141 is an ENV (a 'pre-standard'), not an EN and is not called up by EN61000-6-2. Whoever threatened you with 'EN50141' is unaware of the facts. If it was a test-house, get another one! -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk After swimming across the Hellespont, I felt like a Hero. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
RE: surges on 24VAC
The AC Mains test is just that AC Mains. The Definition of AC mains is basically what comes out of the wall. Since the product is 24VAC it falls under low voltage/signal lines. Test is as a signal line. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Banh [mailto:jb...@bb-elec.com] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:44 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: surges on 24VAC Hello everyone, I am currently trying to test a product of ours that falls under 50082-1 generic standard for light industrial equipment. Our problem is that we have a 24VAC power input port. The generic standard calls out for EN 61000-4-5 on AC power input ports. After looking at EN 61000-4-5 it seems that it is intended for AC mains voltages, but I couldn't find anything that says a 24VAC input is exempt from this test. I am looking for outside opinions on whether this test is truly applicable. Thanks, Jennifer Banh BTW, we already tried just testing to the spec, and failed. Any suggestions on how to protect against this test would also be appreciated. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
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Hello Group, This question is in regards to a CE Marked assembly. The Completed end unit is CE Compliant and Marked. The end unit is disassembled and shipped in 2 shipping containers into the EU. What are the CE Marking requirements for the two shipping containers? Do we place a CE mark on both? We have only tested the unit as a whole and testing the parts separately is not typical installation or use. Robert L. Mavis Compliance Engineering Specialist Engineering Department, Compliance Engineering Group Pelco 3500 Pelco Way Clovis, CA 93612-5699 Phone: (559) 292-1981 x2309 Toll Free: (800) 292-1981 x2309 Fax:(559) 291-3775 email: rma...@pelco.com URL:http://www.pelco.com -
Chamber Acceptability Questions
Hello to all in the group, I have been inundated with questions from the executive staff from my company and would like to field these questions with the listserv group: 1. There has been talk about CISPR accepting 3-meter Semi anechoic full-size chambers for CE Compliance. If this is true when can we expect this to be published in the CISPR documents? 2. Can a 3-meter compact semi-anechoic chamber be used for FCC compliance/verification testing? 3. The is supposedly a draft standard for the Free-Space Chambers. Will these chambers be accepted for FCC/CE? How far along is the draft standard from being published? 4. Is the free-space chamber data accepted by the FCC? 5. Are there any companies using a Free-space chamber for compliance? 6. What certifications will be required for a manufacturer to test/certify using a in-house facility? Robert L. Mavis Compliance Engineering Specialist Engineering Department, Compliance Engineering Group Pelco 3500 Pelco Way Clovis, CA 93612-5699 Phone: (559) 292-1981 x2309 Toll Free: (800) 292-1981 x2309 Fax:(559) 291-3775 email: rma...@pelco.com URL:http://www.pelco.com -
RE: 8591EM monitor output
All you need is a video monitor (i.e., CCTV monitor) Yes it does NTSC video, it is not modulated so it will not work with a TV unless it has a video input. -Original Message- From: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com [mailto:jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 12:42 PM To: Bailey; Jeff; 'emc-pstc' Subject: Fwd:8591EM monitor output forwarding for Jeff. Reply Separator Subject:8591EM monitor output Author: Bailey; Jeff jbai...@mysst.com List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 7/24/00 12:06 PM Hello all, Have any of you successfully hooked up a television to an HP8590 series EMC analyzer? The monitor output does provide NTSC format, I am now assuming that I need to provide a carrier for the monitor output to ride on in order for the TV to see the NTSC signal and know what to do with it. Is there an easier way to do this than to build my own modulator? Thanks, Jeff Bailey Compliance Engineering SST - A Division of Woodhead Canada Phone: (519) 725 5136 ext. 363 Fax: (519) 725 1515 Email: jbai...@sstech.on.ca Web: www.sstech.on.ca --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Mains Color Codes
Richard, Under EN 60065 Clause 15.3.2 there is reference to soldered or crimped connectors. This would tend to lead me to believe that flying leads are allowed. Robert Mavis -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 5:18 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Mains Color Codes I am under the impression that pig-tails are not allowed in most countries outside North America. I know for a fact that wire nuts are not allowed by TUV. Richard Woods -- From: Mavis, Robert [SMTP:rma...@pelco.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 5:33 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Mains Color Codes I know this was kicked around a while back but here we go again. What are the allowable color codes for pigtails that come from a permanently connected apparatus to be connected to mains for US and Europe? Is there a color code that is allowable for both? Thanks in advance for any help.. Robert L. Mavis Agency Compliance Coordinator Engineering Department, Compliance Engineering Group Pelco 300 W. Pontiac Way Clovis, CA 93612 Phone: (559) 292-1981 x2309 Toll Free: (800) 292-1981 x2309 Fax:(559) 291-3775 email: rma...@pelco.com URL:http://www.pelco.com http://www.pelco.com - Note: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, contact administra...@pelco.com or call (559) 292-1981. Information contained may be confidential. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited if you are not the intended recipient. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Note: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, contact administra...@pelco.com or call (559) 292-1981. Information contained may be confidential. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited if you are not the intended recipient.
RE: Mains Color Codes
I am running into a problem with UL not accepting the Brown/Blue color code due to UL 2044 and The NEC stating that the Neutral must be white or Natural grey. Has there been any updates to the NEC that allows the Euro Color code? -Original Message- From: Lacey,Scott [mailto:sla...@foxboro.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 4:48 AM To: Mavis, Robert Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: RE: Mains Color Codes Robert, I have always found the European color codes (brown/light blue/green w/yellow) to be best for dual market use. UL and CSA seem to have no problem with the use of these. You will need to provide some kind of legend plate or tag explaining the color codes, as many U.S. electricians are still not familiar with these. Scott Lacey -Original Message- From: Mavis, Robert [SMTP:rma...@pelco.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 5:33 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject:Mains Color Codes I know this was kicked around a while back but here we go again. What are the allowable color codes for pigtails that come from a permanently connected apparatus to be connected to mains for US and Europe? Is there a color code that is allowable for both? Thanks in advance for any help.. Robert L. Mavis Agency Compliance Coordinator Engineering Department, Compliance Engineering Group Pelco 300 W. Pontiac Way Clovis, CA 93612 Phone: (559) 292-1981 x2309 Toll Free: (800) 292-1981 x2309 Fax:(559) 291-3775 email: rma...@pelco.com URL:http://www.pelco.com http://www.pelco.com - Note: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, contact administra...@pelco.com or call (559) 292-1981. Information contained may be confidential. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited if you are not the intended recipient. Note: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, contact administra...@pelco.com or call (559) 292-1981. Information contained may be confidential. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited if you are not the intended recipient.
RE: AC Mains Color Coding
But what about permanently connected products? -Original Message- From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 8:53 AM To: Mavis, Robert Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: AC Mains Color Coding Hi Robert: Yes certain UL standards have accepted the Lt Blue for the neutral. But therein lies the conflict. The NEC states that the neutral (grounded conductor) must be white or nat. Gray. Has there been an acceptance by the NEC for the blue neutral?? Yes, the NEC does indeed accept blue for the neutral color for cords, but not for building wiring. See: Cords: NEC Articles 200(c), 400-22(c), 400-23. Buildings: NEC Articles 200-7, 210-5. Specifically, 400-22(c): For jacketed cords furnished with appliances, one conductor having its insulation colored light blue... (UL would not accept blue unless the NEC first accepted blue.) Best regards, Rich - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). Note: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, contact administra...@pelco.com or call (559) 292-1981. Information contained may be confidential. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited if you are not the intended recipient.
RE: Fans; m3/h to CFM
Peter, 1 m^3/H = 0.5885778 f^3/m (CFM) - Robert L. Mavis Agency Compliance Coordinator Engineering Department, Compliance Engineering Group Pelco 300 W. Pontiac Way Clovis, CA 93612 Phone: (559) 292-1981 x2309 Toll Free: (800) 292-1981 x2309 Fax:(559) 291-3775 email: rma...@pelco.com URL:http://www.pelco.com - -Original Message- From: pmerguer...@itl.co.il [mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 6:55 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Fans; m3/h to CFM Hello There! Anyone knows how to convert m3 (ie meters cube)/hour to CFM? To serve my clients better so they can use alternate dc fans, I usually specify in the UL Reports the use of Recognized fans rated XXX Vdc, max --- A, minimum --- CFM. However, I just looked up a spec sheet for a dc fan and it gives the m3/h rating and not the CFM rating. Can anyone help with this conversion? Thanks in Advance +++ RTTE Directive Seminar Renaissance Hotel, Tel-Aviv 12th January 2000: CALL FOR DETAILS +++ Peter Merguerian Managing Director Product Testing Division I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. Hacharoshet 26, POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019 e-mail: pmerguer...@itl.co.il website: http://www.itl.co.il - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). Note: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, contact administra...@pelco.com or call (559) 292-1981. Information contained may be confidential. Dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited if you are not the intended recipient.
RE: EMC encyclopedia ??
emf-emi control inc. P.O. Box D Gainesville Virginia 20156 540-347-0030 http://www.emf-emi.com -Original Message- From: ed.pr...@cubic.com [SMTP:ed.pr...@cubic.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 9:38 AM To: EMC-PSTC Cc: Morel Grunberg Subject: Fw: EMC encyclopedia ?? Posted for Morel Grunberg morel.grunb...@telrad.co.il: From: Morel Grunberg morel.grunb...@telrad.co.il Subject: EMC encyclopedia ?? Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:34:19 +0300 To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Hello, Looking for informations on how/where to get the Don White 'EMC encyclopedia' on hardcopy and/or CD ROMs. No findings on WEB search. Any help will be appreciated. Morel ---End of Original Message- -- Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA. USA 619-505-2780 Date: 06/29/1999 Time: 08:37:33 Military Avionics EMC Services Our Specialty Also Environmental / Metrology / Reliability -- - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
