[PSES] CAN/CSA-C22.2 NO. 60601-1:14 deviations
Hi all,
I'm interested in the last edition of the canadian deviations to IEC 60601-1.
On the CSA website, it seems that you cannot get them without having to buy the
whole IEC standard, which I already have.
Does anybody know if there is a source just for the deviations?
Also, I have in my hand the deviations to the previous IEC edition (ed. 3
without A1:2012). Do you know if they are still valid or have been amended?
Thanks,
Best regards,
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earthline choke
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voltage dips
Hi all, Is there any basic standard concerning voltage dips and short interruptions immunity for equipment with input current larger than 16 amps per phase? And more: can a product standard prescribe such test for equipment with more than 16 amps per phase and still refer to 61000-4-11 as basic standard? Thanks, Paolo Peruzzi Esaote S.p.A. Research & Product Development - Design Quality Control via di Caciolle, 15 I- 50127 Florence tel: +39 055 4229469 fax: +39 055 4223305 e-mail: paolo.peru...@esaote.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Rif: Re: MIL-STD 461 C
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MIL-STD 461 C
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Rif: Re: 60601-1-2:2002
Hi all, As far as I know, EN 60601-1-2 (2001) is listed on OJ since last december, see: http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/it/dat/2002/c_310/c_31020021213it00040011.pdf Best regards, Paolo Peruzzi ** Paolo Peruzzi Esaote S.p.A. Research & Product Development - Design Quality Control via di Caciolle, 15 I- 50127 Florence tel: +39 055 4229469 fax: +39 055 4223305 e-mail: paolo.peru...@esaote.com ** has...@a-pex.co.jp Inviato da:Per: rehel...@mmm.com owner-emc-pstc@majordo Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org mo.ieee.orgCcr: Oggetto: Re: 60601-1-2:2002 17/02/2003 11.56 Per favore, rispondere a hasimt Hello Bob, Not, yet. You can check it below web site. http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/r eflist/meddevic.html But I think you should use new version, if available. Best regards, Tetsuya Hashimoto A-PEX International Co.Ltd. www.a-pex.co.jp > Is EN 60601-1-2:2002 listed in the OJ? I can only find reference to the > 1993 version. Can we officially use the latest version? > > Bob Heller > 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 > St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 > Tel: 651- 778-6336 > Fax: 651-778-6252 > === > > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The materials in this electronic mail transmission (including all attachments) are private and confidential and are the property of Esaote SpA. Unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this material is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender if you have received this in error. Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio di posta elettronica e relativi allegati sono proprietà di Esaote SpA e sono riservate; ne é vietata la diffusione in qualunque modo eseguita. Qualora Lei non fosse la persona a cui il presente messaggio è destinato, La invitiamo ad eliminarlo e ad informare colui che lo ha inviato. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Rif: Re: Measuring AC Line Impedance
I think Don is right: the resistive load measurement is not useful; yo need to measure the e.m.f. and to perform two reactive load measurements in order to solve the equations. - ESAOTE S.p.A. Paolo Peruzzi Research & Product DevelopmentDesign Quality Control Via di Caciolle,15tel:+39.055.4229306 I- 50127 Florence fax:+39.055.4223305 e-mail: paolo.peru...@esaote.com I read in !emc-pstc that don_borow...@selinc.com wrote (in ) about 'Measuring AC Line Impedance' on Tue, 5 Nov 2002: >Part 1. This measurement will NOT give just the resistive part of the >source impedance. Your post is so long that it is not clear what you are trying to correct. Also, by top-posting you make it more difficult to understand how your comments relate to previous texts. If we measure the voltage developed across a resistive load, we have one equation with three unknowns, e.m.f., source inductance and source resistance. If we measure the voltage developed across a pure capacitive load (or one with known losses), we also have one equation with three unknowns. If we measure the *open-circuit* voltage, we immediately have the value of one unknown, the e.m.f. or Thevenin equivalent source voltage. That leaves us with two equations and two unknowns, which are soluble. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
PCB floating area layout
Hi all, I'm dealing with a PCB that has a floating section isolated from the rest of the board for safety purposes (patient applied part). I found out some problems with emissions, due to the coupling between the floating part and of the PCB and the earthed one. My questions are concerning the layout design of the floating area: 1) Is it best to minimize the HF capacitive coupling between the earthed ground and the floating ground or to maximize it? 2) Is it best to reduce the amount of the floating ground or to increase it? Does it depend on the goodness of the "main ground", i.e. how much it is "cold" ? (I see the board as a dipole with one end connected to earth, and the other floating). Thanks, p.p. - ESAOTE S.p.A. Paolo Peruzzi Research & Product DevelopmentDesign Quality Control Via di Caciolle,15tel:+39.055.4229306 I- 50127 Florence fax:+39.055.4223305 e-mail: paolo.peru...@esaote.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
RE: EMC for cardio : which standard apply?
Jim, thanks for your suggestions. Our product will be sold at least in Europe and US, so we need CE marking, but not only that, I suppose. Though there are some similarities between 60601-2-25 +A1 and 60601-1-2 2nd ed, I think there are important differences too, to the extent that the latter is in general more severe (more tests prescribed). Best regards, p.p. - ESAOTE S.p.A. Paolo Peruzzi Research & Product DevelopmentDesign Quality Control Via di Caciolle,15tel:+39.055.4229306 I- 50127 Florence fax:+39.055.4223305 e-mail: paolo.peru...@esaote.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
EMC for cardio : wich standard apply?
hello, I have to test an electrocardiograph for EMC , but I'm in trouble with the standard to apply. There is IEC 60601-2-25 -A1, "Particular requirements for the safety of elecrocardiographs", that deals with EMC, and refers to IEC 60601-1-2 1st ed.(1993, now superseded) and is still valid, as far as I know. But now we have the new edition of IEC 60601-1-2, and its requirements are very different from 60601-2-25-A1 ones. The old edition is replaced by the new one, but what about those particular standards based on it? So I don't know which standard I have to apply. Can anybody out of there dispel my doubts? Best regards p.p. - ESAOTE S.p.A. Paolo Peruzzi Research & Product DevelopmentDesign Quality Control Via di Caciolle,15tel:+39.055.4229306 I- 50127 Florence fax:+39.055.4223305 e-mail: paolo.peru...@esaote.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
Medical devices radiated immunity
Hi all, The second edition of IEC 60601-1-2 (EMC for medical electrical equipments) sets out a radiated immunity test between 80 MHz and 2.5 GHz. For test methods it refers to IEC 61000-4-3, which covers frequencies up to 2 GHz. So what about the test method? Can you follow the procedure described in Annex J of new 61000-3-4 ( FDIS version) as "indipendent windows method" up to 2.5 GHz? Thanks in advance, p. - ESAOTE S.p.A. Paolo Peruzzi Research & Product DevelopmentDesign Quality Control Via di Caciolle,15tel:+39.055.4229306 I- 50127 Florence fax:+39.055.4223305 e-mail: paolo.peru...@esaote.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: No longer online until our new server is brought online and the old messages are imported into the new server.
