Re: [PSES] Accredited lab for FCC testing

2019-10-28 Thread Charlie Blackham
The lab doesn't need to be accredited for SDoC, though the testing laboratory 
used is required to maintain a description of the test facility, as required by 
Section 2.948(b)
https://www.fcc.gov/testing-laboratory-qualifications

regards
Charlie

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From: Paasche, Dieter 
Sent: 28 October 2019 15:53
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Accredited lab for FCC testing

Dear members,

Is it absolutely mandatory to test a product for EMC in an accredited lab under 
the suppliers declaration of conformity? If yes, where does it clearly say?
This is what I found so far. It seem to me that it does not necessarily need to 
be accredited, but would need to comply with all the accreditation 
requirements. The question comes from the "upon request" of the sentence in 
section 2.948 (2).

And therefore, I would be OK for the FCC, if I know that the test results of a 
non-accredited lab that follows the test site calibration as per standards are 
equivalent to an accredited lab. Is that correct?

§15.31   Measurement standards.
(d) Field strength measurements shall be made, to the extent possible, on an 
open area test site. Test sites other than open area test sites may be employed 
if they are properly calibrated so that the measurement results correspond to 
what would be obtained from an open area test site.

§2.948   Measurement facilities.
(b) A laboratory that makes measurements of equipment subject to an equipment 
authorization under the certification procedure or Supplier's Declaration of 
Conformity shall compile a description of the measurement facilities employed.

(1) The description of the measurement facilities shall contain the following 
information:

(i) Location of the test site.

(ii) Physical description of the test site accompanied by photographs that 
clearly show the details of the test site.

(iii) A drawing showing the dimensions of the site, physical layout of all 
supporting structures, and all structures within 5 times the distance between 
the measuring antenna and the device being measured.

(iv) Description of structures used to support the device being measured and 
the test instrumentation.

(v) List of measuring equipment used.

(vi) Information concerning the calibration of the measuring equipment, i.e., 
the date the equipment was last calibrated and how often the equipment is 
calibrated.

(vii) For a measurement facility that will be used for testing radiated 
emissions, a plot of site attenuation data taken pursuant to paragraph (d) of 
this section.

(2) The description of the measurement facilities shall be provided to a 
laboratory accreditation body upon request.


Sincerely,

Dieter Paasche
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[PSES] Accredited lab for FCC testing

2019-10-28 Thread Paasche, Dieter
Dear members,

Is it absolutely mandatory to test a product for EMC in an accredited lab under 
the suppliers declaration of conformity? If yes, where does it clearly say?
This is what I found so far. It seem to me that it does not necessarily need to 
be accredited, but would need to comply with all the accreditation 
requirements. The question comes from the "upon request" of the sentence in 
section 2.948 (2).

And therefore, I would be OK for the FCC, if I know that the test results of a 
non-accredited lab that follows the test site calibration as per standards are 
equivalent to an accredited lab. Is that correct?

§15.31   Measurement standards.
(d) Field strength measurements shall be made, to the extent possible, on an 
open area test site. Test sites other than open area test sites may be employed 
if they are properly calibrated so that the measurement results correspond to 
what would be obtained from an open area test site.

§2.948   Measurement facilities.
(b) A laboratory that makes measurements of equipment subject to an equipment 
authorization under the certification procedure or Supplier's Declaration of 
Conformity shall compile a description of the measurement facilities employed.

(1) The description of the measurement facilities shall contain the following 
information:

(i) Location of the test site.

(ii) Physical description of the test site accompanied by photographs that 
clearly show the details of the test site.

(iii) A drawing showing the dimensions of the site, physical layout of all 
supporting structures, and all structures within 5 times the distance between 
the measuring antenna and the device being measured.

(iv) Description of structures used to support the device being measured and 
the test instrumentation.

(v) List of measuring equipment used.

(vi) Information concerning the calibration of the measuring equipment, i.e., 
the date the equipment was last calibrated and how often the equipment is 
calibrated.

(vii) For a measurement facility that will be used for testing radiated 
emissions, a plot of site attenuation data taken pursuant to paragraph (d) of 
this section.

(2) The description of the measurement facilities shall be provided to a 
laboratory accreditation body upon request.


Sincerely,

Dieter Paasche

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