Re: [PSES] EN amendments of EN standard vs BS EN emendments of BS EN standard
Dear Bernd, Yes, you are correct that the A11 : 2020 modifies the Annex ZZ reference to the latest Directive 2014/30/EU from old Directive 2004/108/EC. A11 is on OJ but A1 is not yet. I have checked EN 55032 : 2015/A1 : 2020 and it does not include A11 contents. For BS EN 55032 : 2015 + A1 : 2020, in the publication preview, it does include A11. If the product was tested and passed with BS EN 55032 : 2015 + A1 : 2020, it complies with both A11 and A1 amendments. If the test house uses EN amendments, their test report should state A11 and A1 as they have individual requirements. Sometimes the products may need to be upgraded for A1 compliance. Thus they may be conducted separately. Regards, Scott On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 at 14:53, Dürrer Bernd wrote: > Hi Scott, > > > > the content of EN amendment A11 is the “Modification to Annex ZZ, > "Coverage of Essential Requirements of EU Directives"”, while EN amendment > A1 is the adoption of CISPR amendment A1 without any modifications. I > presume that the statement in BS EN 55032:2015 is related to Brexit, as the > UK no longer recognises EU Directives, but only UK regulations (cf. > relationship-between-eu-and-uk-regulation_table.pdf > (bsigroup.com) > <https://www.bsigroup.com/globalassets/documents/about-bsi/nsb/national-and-european-policy-team/relationship-between-eu-and-uk-regulation_table.pdf>). > Please check Standards and EU Exit | BSI (bsigroup.com) > <https://www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/about-bsi/uk-national-standards-body/standards-and-eu-exit/> > for > information on this topic published by the British Standards Institution. > At the end of this page you will find a contact e-mail to which you may > submit your question on the adoption of EN amendments by BSI. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Bernd > > > > *Von:* Scott Xe > *Gesendet:* Samstag, 23. Juli 2022 15:30 > *An:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Betreff:* [PSES] EN amendments of EN standard vs BS EN emendments of BS > EN standard > > > > Recently we had a discussion of differences between these two types of > amendments. The amendments of an EN standard are independent whereas the > amendments of BS EN standard are accumulated. The latest amendment of BS > EN standard supersedes the previous ones. > > > > The discussion was based on a EMC standard, EN 55032 : 2015 + A11 : 2020 + > A1 : 2020. A11 and A1 amendments are independent. BS EN 55022 : 2015/A1 > supersedes BS EN 55032:2015+A11:2020 but this statement is not in EN A1 > amendment. > > > > Are they the correct interpretation? Originally we believe EN amendments > are more or less the same as BS EN amendments. > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Scott > > - > > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to < > emc-p...@ieee.org> > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Femc-pstc.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cfe785b5c0e934cd4fa5c08da6caf867d%7C39288a38ff19432c80111cd9d0dff445%7C0%7C0%7C637941798380149050%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2B35aEfnh5YHRmR6do4IsDp2MrgjzZHXVnkeW29W62z4%3D&reserved=0> > > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cfe785b5c0e934cd4fa5c08da6caf867d%7C39288a38ff19432c80111cd9d0dff445%7C0%7C0%7C637941798380149050%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gsyUSuGKbXqJFpH%2B5mJTRDel%2FNYsOvgz5vjLL3%2BNpmg%3D&reserved=0> > Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to > unsubscribe) > <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flist.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cfe785b5c0e934cd4fa5c08da6caf867d%7C39288a38ff19432c80111cd9d0dff445%7C0%7C0%7C637941798380149050%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=b6B6lDabfvr14IgyvfOQZmV9onUPbQ%2FvBpIqXzNJyeg%3D&reserved=0> > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > <https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flistrules.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cfe785b5c0e934cd4fa5c08da6caf867d%7C39288a38ff19432c80111cd9d0dff445%7C0%7C0%7C637941798380149050%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI
[PSES] AW: [PSES] EN amendments of EN standard vs BS EN emendments of BS EN standard
Hi Scott, the content of EN amendment A11 is the "Modification to Annex ZZ, "Coverage of Essential Requirements of EU Directives"", while EN amendment A1 is the adoption of CISPR amendment A1 without any modifications. I presume that the statement in BS EN 55032:2015 is related to Brexit, as the UK no longer recognises EU Directives, but only UK regulations (cf. relationship-between-eu-and-uk-regulation_table.pdf (bsigroup.com)<https://www.bsigroup.com/globalassets/documents/about-bsi/nsb/national-and-european-policy-team/relationship-between-eu-and-uk-regulation_table.pdf>). Please check Standards and EU Exit | BSI (bsigroup.com)<https://www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/about-bsi/uk-national-standards-body/standards-and-eu-exit/> for information on this topic published by the British Standards Institution. At the end of this page you will find a contact e-mail to which you may submit your question on the adoption of EN amendments by BSI. Kind regards, Bernd Von: Scott Xe Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Juli 2022 15:30 An: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Betreff: [PSES] EN amendments of EN standard vs BS EN emendments of BS EN standard Recently we had a discussion of differences between these two types of amendments. The amendments of an EN standard are independent whereas the amendments of BS EN standard are accumulated. The latest amendment of BS EN standard supersedes the previous ones. The discussion was based on a EMC standard, EN 55032 : 2015 + A11 : 2020 + A1 : 2020. A11 and A1 amendments are independent. BS EN 55022 : 2015/A1 supersedes BS EN 55032:2015+A11:2020 but this statement is not in EN A1 amendment. Are they the correct interpretation? Originally we believe EN amendments are more or less the same as BS EN amendments. Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Femc-pstc.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cfe785b5c0e934cd4fa5c08da6caf867d%7C39288a38ff19432c80111cd9d0dff445%7C0%7C0%7C637941798380149050%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2B35aEfnh5YHRmR6do4IsDp2MrgjzZHXVnkeW29W62z4%3D&reserved=0> Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cfe785b5c0e934cd4fa5c08da6caf867d%7C39288a38ff19432c80111cd9d0dff445%7C0%7C0%7C637941798380149050%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gsyUSuGKbXqJFpH%2B5mJTRDel%2FNYsOvgz5vjLL3%2BNpmg%3D&reserved=0> Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flist.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cfe785b5c0e934cd4fa5c08da6caf867d%7C39288a38ff19432c80111cd9d0dff445%7C0%7C0%7C637941798380149050%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=b6B6lDabfvr14IgyvfOQZmV9onUPbQ%2FvBpIqXzNJyeg%3D&reserved=0> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flistrules.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cfe785b5c0e934cd4fa5c08da6caf867d%7C39288a38ff19432c80111cd9d0dff445%7C0%7C0%7C637941798380149050%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=qORGBMrCU%2FcJieJTXHWPGX0JYMd3SnUpCh8NPdVBFqA%3D&reserved=0> For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1 WILO SE Wilopark 1, 44263 Dortmund Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 21356 www.wilo.com Vorstand/Executive Board: Oliver Hermes (President & CEO), Dr. Patrick Niehr, Georg Weber, Mathias Weyers Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender/Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Lars Roßner Dieses Dokument ist vertraulich zu behandeln. Die Weitergabe sowie Vervielfaeltigung, Verwertung und Mitteilung seines Inhalts ist nur mit unserer ausdruecklichen Genehmigung gestattet. Alle Rechte vorbehalten, insbesondere fuer den Fall der Schutzrechtsanmeldung. This document has to be treated confidentially. Its contents are not to be
[PSES] EN amendments of EN standard vs BS EN emendments of BS EN standard
Recently we had a discussion of differences between these two types of amendments. The amendments of an EN standard are independent whereas the amendments of BS EN standard are accumulated. The latest amendment of BS EN standard supersedes the previous ones. The discussion was based on a EMC standard, EN 55032 : 2015 + A11 : 2020 + A1 : 2020. A11 and A1 amendments are independent. BS EN 55022 : 2015/A1 supersedes BS EN 55032:2015+A11:2020 but this statement is not in EN A1 amendment. Are they the correct interpretation? Originally we believe EN amendments are more or less the same as BS EN amendments. Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: _ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1
