Re: [PSES] EU Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC for motorized adjustable height table

2021-05-05 Thread Scott Xe 
Dear Pete,

The DoC included in IB is required by MD like RED.  No idea why only these
two directives are required in IB.  Normal customers might not know
what they are.  It is more appropriate in the technical file to be checked
by MSA upon request.

Thanks and regards,

Scott


On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 03:29, Pete Perkins  wrote:

> Scott,The MDoC and other public references to standards used become an
> overload in the supplied documentation.  The better route is to incorporate
> these references, detailing by clause and/or whatever limitation you have
> applied, in your Technical File which supports the claim of meeting EN ISO
> 12100 in the MDoC and manual provided.
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> *From:* Scott Xe 
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> *Subject:* [PSES] EU Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC for motorized
> adjustable height table
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> It applies the harmonised standard EN ISO 12100 to assess the product for
> the compliance of MD.  In the conformity report, it validates each clause
> using a few standards such as EN 60335-1, EN 527, EN 55014-1:2017+A11:2020,
> EN 61000-3-2:2019, EN 62233 : 2008 etc.  Is it necessary to quote all the
> standards or just EN ISO 12100 only in the DoC inside the instructions
> manual?
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Re: [PSES] EU Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC for motorized adjustable height table

2021-05-05 Thread Scott Xe 
Dear Mike,

I agree with you.  Probably the DoC was made reference to another sample.

Thanks and regards,

Scott

On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 00:22, MIKE SHERMAN  wrote:

> Scott --
> 1.  I tend to not list a harmonized standard unless I've applied all of
> its requirements to my machine.
> 2.  Some of the standards you mention are for EMC, not MD.
>
> Mike
>
> On 05/04/2021 9:51 AM Scott Xe  wrote:
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>
>
> It applies the harmonised standard EN ISO 12100 to assess the product for
> the compliance of MD.  In the conformity report, it validates each clause
> using a few standards such as EN 60335-1, EN 527, EN 55014-1:2017+A11:2020,
> EN 61000-3-2:2019, EN 62233 : 2008 etc.  Is it necessary to quote all the
> standards or just EN ISO 12100 only in the DoC inside the instructions
> manual?
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> Thanks and regards,
>
> Scott
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Re: [PSES] EU Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC for motorized adjustable height table

2021-05-04 Thread Pete Perkins 
Scott,The MDoC and other public references to standards used become an 
overload in the supplied documentation.  The better route is to incorporate 
these references, detailing by clause and/or whatever limitation you have 
applied, in your Technical File which supports the claim of meeting EN ISO 
12100 in the MDoC and manual provided.  

 

:>) br,  Pete

 

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Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant

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From: Scott Xe  
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 7:51 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] EU Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC for motorized adjustable 
height table

 

It applies the harmonised standard EN ISO 12100 to assess the product for the 
compliance of MD.  In the conformity report, it validates each clause using a 
few standards such as EN 60335-1, EN 527, EN 55014-1:2017+A11:2020, EN 
61000-3-2:2019, EN 62233 : 2008 etc.  Is it necessary to quote all the 
standards or just EN ISO 12100 only in the DoC inside the instructions manual?

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Scott

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Re: [PSES] EU Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC for motorized adjustable height table

2021-05-04 Thread MIKE SHERMAN 
Scott --
1.  I tend to not list a harmonized standard unless I've applied all of its 
requirements to my machine.
2.  Some of the standards you mention are for EMC, not MD.

Mike

> On 05/04/2021 9:51 AM Scott Xe  wrote:
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>  
>  
> It applies the harmonised standard EN ISO 12100 to assess the product for 
> the compliance of MD.  In the conformity report, it validates each clause 
> using a few standards such as EN 60335-1, EN 527, EN 55014-1:2017+A11:2020, 
> EN 61000-3-2:2019, EN 62233 : 2008 etc.  Is it necessary to quote all the 
> standards or just EN ISO 12100 only in the DoC inside the instructions manual?
>  
> Thanks and regards,
>  
> Scott
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[PSES] EU Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC for motorized adjustable height table

2021-05-04 Thread Scott Xe 
It applies the harmonised standard EN ISO 12100 to assess the product for
the compliance of MD.  In the conformity report, it validates each clause
using a few standards such as EN 60335-1, EN 527, EN 55014-1:2017+A11:2020,
EN 61000-3-2:2019, EN 62233 : 2008 etc.  Is it necessary to quote all the
standards or just EN ISO 12100 only in the DoC inside the instructions
manual?

Thanks and regards,

Scott

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