[PSES] High voltage versus High tension
Hi folks, I never encountered this before but am curious if anyone had any problems in using the European verbiage ‘High Tension’ in lieu of ‘High voltage’ during their 61010 assessment on their labels and documentation. Unless I am mistaken on the Group & National differences, IEC 61010-1 does not mention anything specific on allowing this alternative language. I also want to know if ‘High tension’ would be a problem in the USA and Canada during a Field evaluation or NRTL certification? (I only ask to avoid having 2 labels/wording on a global product) Thanks for sharing any experiences you had. Regan Arndt - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension
Reagan: Back in early 1980’s during CSA investigation, they had me use “Haute Tension” for French translation for “high voltage”. Please be safe Stay Home - Stop the Spread – Save Lives Best Regards Bansi Patel M: 909-260-9403 bansipate...@gmail.com <mailto:bansipate...@gmail.com> From: Regan Arndt Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 4:35 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension Hi folks, I never encountered this before but am curious if anyone had any problems in using the European verbiage ‘High Tension’ in lieu of ‘High voltage’ during their 61010 assessment on their labels and documentation. Unless I am mistaken on the Group & National differences, IEC 61010-1 does not mention anything specific on allowing this alternative language. I also want to know if ‘High tension’ would be a problem in the USA and Canada during a Field evaluation or NRTL certification? (I only ask to avoid having 2 labels/wording on a global product) Thanks for sharing any experiences you had. Regan Arndt - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension
Not at all helpful, but I have always wondered why, if we speak of high voltage, we don¹t also speak of high amperage and high ohmage? Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: Regan Arndt Reply-To: Regan Arndt Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 16:35:01 -0700 To: Subject: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension Hi folks, I never encountered this before but am curious if anyone had any problems in using the European verbiage High Tension¹ in lieu of High voltage¹ during their 61010 assessment on their labels and documentation. Unless I am mistaken on the Group & National differences, IEC 61010-1 does not mention anything specific on allowing this alternative language. I also want to know if High tension¹ would be a problem in the USA and Canada during a Field evaluation or NRTL certification? (I only ask to avoid having 2 labels/wording on a global product) Thanks for sharing any experiences you had. Regan Arndt - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension
The terms are international, not just EU. If you look in the IEC Electropedia terms and definitions there is en high voltage high tension HV voltage having a value above a conventionally adopted limit Note – An example is the set of upper voltage values used in bulk power systems. [SOURCE: 601-01-27 MOD] fr haute tension f HT f tension électrique de valeur supérieure à une limite adoptée par convention Note – Un exemple est l'ensemble des tensions les plus élevées utilisées dans les réseaux de production-transport d'énergie électrique. [SOURCE: 601-01-27 MOD] In IEC English you can use high voltage or high tension, but in French there is only haute tension Regards, Mick Safety and Telecom Standards mjmay...@gmail.com https://ict-surge-protection-essays.co.uk/ -- Original Message -- From: "Regan Arndt" To: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Sent: 04/08/2020 00:35:01 Subject: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension Hi folks, I never encountered this before but am curious if anyone had any problems in using the European verbiage ‘High Tension’ in lieu of ‘High voltage’ during their 61010 assessment on their labels and documentation. Unless I am mistaken on the Group & National differences, IEC 61010-1 does not mention anything specific on allowing this alternative language. I also want to know if ‘High tension’ would be a problem in the USA and Canada during a Field evaluation or NRTL certification? (I only ask to avoid having 2 labels/wording on a global product) Thanks for sharing any experiences you had. Regan Arndt - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension
I think the key question is the use of the word “tension” in describing an electrical potential. Tension has a very specific definition in the world of Mechanical Engineering and Physics, and I think using “tension” to describe anything but mechanical tension is a misuse of the word. My non-expert opinion is that no English speaker would not comprehend the warning being given by “High Tension” although I would prefer “High Voltage.” In times before the IEC, the Germans were labeling their high voltage gear with “Hochspannung.” I did a search on Safety Hazard signs and found only this one German example of a multi-lingual warning sign (maybe it’s a BCB transmitting antenna): [File:High voltage warning sign Beromuenster.JPG - Wikimedia Commons] Perhaps the “High Tension” usage is too well-established in Europe to allow for rationalization or perhaps the Europeans have a huge sign inventory still to be used. Ed Price WB6WSN Chula Vista, CA USA From: Mick Maytum [mailto:mjmay...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 7:15 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension The terms are international, not just EU. If you look in the IEC Electropedia terms and definitions there is en high voltage high tension HV voltage having a value above a conventionally adopted limit Note – An example is the set of upper voltage values used in bulk power systems. [SOURCE: 601-01-27 MOD] fr haute tension f HT f tension électrique de valeur supérieure à une limite adoptée par convention Note – Un exemple est l'ensemble des tensions les plus élevées utilisées dans les réseaux de production-transport d'énergie électrique. [SOURCE: 601-01-27 MOD] In IEC English you can use high voltage or high tension, but in French there is only haute tension [https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/MFofr_tNQCXwgtKy4pOGltrWboeOg0trIAQ09WljehD6kkUvW8SehXbZML9-oMSzaVhU8IEwYspmAGD0dS3oOFpWt2UFmpyfF4ypySLi1XKPXOtDDp7JGfCs0IPXxH2j6mPXQA=s0-d-e1-ft#http://www.ictsp-essays.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/ITU-ASSOCIATE-BLUE.png] Regards, Mick Safety and Telecom Standards mjmay...@gmail.com<mailto:mjmay...@gmail.com> https://ict-surge-protection-essays.co.uk/ -- Original Message -- From: "Regan Arndt" mailto:reganar...@gmail.com>> To: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org<mailto:EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: 04/08/2020 00:35:01 Subject: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension Hi folks, I never encountered this before but am curious if anyone had any problems in using the European verbiage ‘High Tension’ in lieu of ‘High voltage’ during their 61010 assessment on their labels and documentation. Unless I am mistaken on the Group & National differences, IEC 61010-1 does not mention anything specific on allowing this alternative language. I also want to know if ‘High tension’ would be a problem in the USA and Canada during a Field evaluation or NRTL certification? (I only ask to avoid having 2 labels/wording on a global product) Thanks for sharing any experiences you had. Regan Arndt - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org<mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org<mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org<mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org<mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com<mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.or
Re: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension
Ken et al, Remember that the standard EE definitions are: Low Voltage (up to 600Vac), Medium Voltage (e.g. neighborhood distribution - 10s of kVs) and High Voltage (transmission voltages maybe 100 kV and up). What we work with in electronics is, for the most part ELV (Extra Low Voltage) which has multiple definitions but all selected to be 'safe' in some way; the most common definition is 30Vac/42.4Vpeak (with higher limits for DC). Further sub definitions also exist; IEC 60950 promulgated SELV (Safety ELV) with specific requirements and has been used by the computer and electronics folks for 40 years. So, were the folks promoting this usage really considering High transmission voltages? :>) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant PO Box 1067 Albany, ORe 97321-0413 503/452-1201 IEEE Life Fellow IEEE PSES 2020 Distinguished Lecturer <mailto:p.perk...@ieee.org> p.perk...@ieee.org Entropy ain't what it used to be From: Ken Javor Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:47 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension Not at all helpful, but I have always wondered why, if we speak of high voltage, we don't also speak of high amperage and high ohmage? Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 _ From: Regan Arndt Reply-To: Regan Arndt Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 16:35:01 -0700 To: Subject: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension Hi folks, I never encountered this before but am curious if anyone had any problems in using the European verbiage 'High Tension' in lieu of 'High voltage' during their 61010 assessment on their labels and documentation. Unless I am mistaken on the Group & National differences, IEC 61010-1 does not mention anything specific on allowing this alternative language. I also want to know if 'High tension' would be a problem in the USA and Canada during a Field evaluation or NRTL certification? (I only ask to avoid having 2 labels/wording on a global product) Thanks for sharing any experiences you had. Regan Arndt - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension
I agree that High Voltage is a better word that high tension. The word tension can confuse people since it is have several other use beside in electrical engineering. Regards, Vincent On Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 05:40:11 PM GMT+8, Edward Price wrote: I think the key question is the use of the word “tension” in describing an electrical potential. Tension has a very specific definition in the world of Mechanical Engineering and Physics, and I think using “tension” to describe anything but mechanical tension is a misuse of the word. My non-expert opinion is that no English speaker would not comprehend the warning being given by “High Tension” although I would prefer “High Voltage.” In times before the IEC, the Germans were labeling their high voltage gear with “Hochspannung.” I did a search on Safety Hazard signs and found only this one German example of a multi-lingual warning sign (maybe it’s a BCB transmitting antenna): Perhaps the “High Tension” usage is too well-established in Europe to allow for rationalization or perhaps the Europeans have a huge sign inventory still to be used. Ed Price WB6WSN Chula Vista, CA USA From: Mick Maytum [mailto:mjmay...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 7:15 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension The terms are international, not just EU. If you look in the IEC Electropedia terms and definitions there is en high voltage high tension HV voltage having a value above a conventionally adopted limit Note – An example is the set of upper voltage values used in bulk power systems. [SOURCE: 601-01-27 MOD] fr haute tension f HT f tension électrique de valeur supérieure à une limite adoptée par convention Note – Un exemple est l'ensemble des tensions les plus élevées utilisées dans les réseaux de production-transport d'énergie électrique. [SOURCE: 601-01-27 MOD] In IEC English you can use high voltage or high tension, but in French there is only haute tension | | Regards, Mick Safety and Telecom Standards mjmay...@gmail.com https://ict-surge-protection-essays.co.uk/ | -- Original Message -- From: "Regan Arndt" To: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Sent: 04/08/2020 00:35:01 Subject: [PSES] High voltage versus High tension Hi folks, I never encountered this before but am curious if anyone had any problems in using the European verbiage ‘High Tension’ in lieu of ‘High voltage’ during their 61010 assessment on their labels and documentation. Unless I am mistaken on the Group & National differences, IEC 61010-1 does not mention anything specific on allowing this alternative language. I also want to know if ‘High tension’ would be a problem in the USA and Canada during a Field evaluation or NRTL certification? (I only ask to avoid having 2 labels/wording on a global product) Thanks for sharing any experiences you had. Regan Arndt - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at:http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site athttp://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher David Heald - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post
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Hello Regan, I’ve only seen “high tension” in reference to overhead power lines. I cannot recall the term ever being used with equipment. There may be a more basic question than whether or not it would be accepted by an NRTL during a field evaluation. Would the meaning of a label stating “high tension” be clear to the user? Warning labels should be as clear as possible and intuitively understood. Most Americans likely wouldn’t know what the hazard would be if a piece of equipment was marked “high tension”. Best regards, Ted Eckert The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. From: Regan Arndt Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 4:35 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] High voltage versus High tension Hi folks, I never encountered this before but am curious if anyone had any problems in using the European verbiage ‘High Tension’ in lieu of ‘High voltage’ during their 61010 assessment on their labels and documentation. Unless I am mistaken on the Group & National differences, IEC 61010-1 does not mention anything specific on allowing this alternative language. I also want to know if ‘High tension’ would be a problem in the USA and Canada during a Field evaluation or NRTL certification? (I only ask to avoid having 2 labels/wording on a global product) Thanks for sharing any experiences you had. Regan Arndt - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Femc-pstc.html&data=02%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C42e29c8e31e848d073f208d83805e2a0%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637320945222314661&sdata=OSsPFHXXF9QHD7vnNy3jc9qx1nhZYoBnu7WKynFlNYE%3D&reserved=0> Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fproduct-compliance.oc.ieee.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C42e29c8e31e848d073f208d83805e2a0%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637320945222324657&sdata=WJyL5yhna7h5cISVN5rYXdwxBT%2FyjHrPe795qBo1WgE%3D&reserved=0> can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C42e29c8e31e848d073f208d83805e2a0%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637320945222324657&sdata=4SzMeaNfYl2J3QRz7J2e9585FTLg7Z2C9fc6Du1N8rU%3D&reserved=0> Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flist.html&data=02%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C42e29c8e31e848d073f208d83805e2a0%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637320945222334655&sdata=vXMHSBw%2F7K05XM%2FbebxVWmJTJQfSrRCtfTd2hVl2yt8%3D&reserved=0> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ieee-pses.org%2Flistrules.html&data=02%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C42e29c8e31e848d073f208d83805e2a0%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C0%7C0%7C637320945222334655&sdata=jeyRjCmNl8w9f2ueR3rDbCHuqhpqmdeqAU0b%2BBmzkTM%3D&reserved=0> For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org>> Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
