Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug

2016-02-11 Thread Scott Xe 
The rewirable plugs are used to replace the damaged plugs and/or accompanying 
unsuitable plugs,i.e., failure to pass thru the hole/tunnel of furniture.  
Comparing non-rewirable plugs with rewirable ones, the cost should be lower.  
Non-rewirable plugs are low cost and reliable (assembled by skill 
labour/automation).  That is no reason not to supply non-rewirable plugs with 
consumer products. In reality, most of national mains plugs are non-rewirable 
plugs with consumer products although there is permissibly rewirable plug in 
existance.

Regards,

Scott


> On 12 Feb, 2016, at 4:08 am, John Allen <john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> UK Plug & Socket Regulations specify that consumer-type products be supplied
> with a BS1363-compliant plug or plug converter - but no requirement for
> moulding on, thus wirable plugs are occasionally used and still available to
> buy in shops (or at least some shops).
> 
> John Allen
> W.London, UK
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] 
> Sent: 11 February 2016 17:32
> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug
> 
> Hi Scott:
> 
> 
> In North America, molded plugs are not required by law or standards.  
> 
> Most North America factory-supplied cords (on
> equipment) are molded plugs.  However, wirable plugs are commonly available
> at electrical supply stores, hardware stores, and even some grocery stores.
> 
> 
> Molded plugs are mostly automated assembly, so are lower cost and more
> reliable than hand-assembled wirable plugs.  
> 
> I seem to recall seeing molded (non-rewirable) UK plugs.
> 
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 8:19 AM
>> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>> Subject: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug
>> 
>> Most of national mains plugs are non-rewirable
> except UK
>> plugs.  Are they required by law, applicable
> standard or
>> cost efficiency?
>> 
>> Thanks and regards,
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
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Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug

2016-02-11 Thread Scott Xe 
Dear Rich,

I fully agree on your view about molded plugs.  Recently we had a discussion on 
a product come with a rewirable plug.  We suggested to change to non-rewirable 
plug but the supplier replied to cost rise.  We don’t see any point to have a 
higher cost and also considering the risk of rewirable plug, the use of 
non-rewirable plug is a wise decision for the sake of both cost and 
reliablitity.

Regards,

Scott


> On 12 Feb, 2016, at 1:32 am, Richard Nute <ri...@ieee.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Scott:
> 
> 
> In North America, molded plugs are not required by
> law or standards.  
> 
> Most North America factory-supplied cords (on
> equipment) are molded plugs.  However, wirable
> plugs are commonly available at electrical supply
> stores, hardware stores, and even some grocery
> stores.  
> 
> Molded plugs are mostly automated assembly, so are
> lower cost and more reliable than hand-assembled
> wirable plugs.  
> 
> I seem to recall seeing molded (non-rewirable) UK
> plugs.
> 
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 8:19 AM
>> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>> Subject: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug
>> 
>> Most of national mains plugs are non-rewirable
> except UK
>> plugs.  Are they required by law, applicable
> standard or
>> cost efficiency?
>> 
>> Thanks and regards,
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
> 

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Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug

2016-02-11 Thread John Allen 
UK Plug & Socket Regulations specify that consumer-type products be supplied
with a BS1363-compliant plug or plug converter - but no requirement for
moulding on, thus wirable plugs are occasionally used and still available to
buy in shops (or at least some shops).

John Allen
W.London, UK

-Original Message-
From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] 
Sent: 11 February 2016 17:32
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug

Hi Scott:


In North America, molded plugs are not required by law or standards.  

Most North America factory-supplied cords (on
equipment) are molded plugs.  However, wirable plugs are commonly available
at electrical supply stores, hardware stores, and even some grocery stores.


Molded plugs are mostly automated assembly, so are lower cost and more
reliable than hand-assembled wirable plugs.  

I seem to recall seeing molded (non-rewirable) UK plugs.


Rich


> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 8:19 AM
> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug
> 
> Most of national mains plugs are non-rewirable
except UK
> plugs.  Are they required by law, applicable
standard or
> cost efficiency?
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Scott
> 

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[PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug

2016-02-11 Thread Scott Xe 
Most of national mains plugs are non-rewirable except UK plugs.  Are they 
required by law, applicable standard or cost efficiency?

Thanks and regards,

Scott

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Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug

2016-02-11 Thread Richard Nute 
Hi Scott:


In North America, molded plugs are not required by
law or standards.  

Most North America factory-supplied cords (on
equipment) are molded plugs.  However, wirable
plugs are commonly available at electrical supply
stores, hardware stores, and even some grocery
stores.  

Molded plugs are mostly automated assembly, so are
lower cost and more reliable than hand-assembled
wirable plugs.  

I seem to recall seeing molded (non-rewirable) UK
plugs.


Rich


> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 8:19 AM
> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug
> 
> Most of national mains plugs are non-rewirable
except UK
> plugs.  Are they required by law, applicable
standard or
> cost efficiency?
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Scott
> 

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