Re: [PSES] SCCR of an electrical cabinet

2021-06-03 Thread Douglas E Powell 
I am presently certifying my product to a different UL standard, and I
believe my situation is similar.  I have a 200 Amp three-phase circuit
breaker on the power input, rated for 25 kAIC. This will become the SCCR
for the overall product, and it will be marked on the rating plate as well
as in the user manual. Doing it this way puts the onus on the system
installer to provide a service that does not exceed this rating.

Thanks, Doug

Douglas E Powell
Laporte, Colorado USA
doug...@gmail.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:30 AM Víctor Ostíbar  wrote:

> Dear members:
>
> My company is developing machinery for the USA market and we are having
> contact with UL508A.
>
>
>
> According to the standard, the label must contain the SCCR of the cabinet
> in order to avoid the connection to a mains that can deliver higher
> currents in case of short circuit. The supply terminals of are connected
> directly to a transformer and the method provided by the standard states 
> *“Power
> transformers, reactors, current transfomers, dry-type capacitors,
> resistors, varistors, and voltmeters are not required to have a short
> circuit current rating”*.  Having into account that the transformer is
> the only component in the primary side. How can we determine the SCCR of
> our equipment?? We determined the SCCR of the secondary side following the
> standard but I’m stuck with the primary side.
>
>
>
> I’m thinking about put an infinite SCCR value but perhaps I’m being a bit
> optimistic.
>
>
>
> I hope someone can give us any guidance.
>
>
>
> Thank you very much in advance!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[PSES] SCCR of an electrical cabinet

2021-06-03 Thread Víctor Ostíbar 
Dear members:

My company is developing machinery for the USA market and we are having contact 
with UL508A.

According to the standard, the label must contain the SCCR of the cabinet in 
order to avoid the connection to a mains that can deliver higher currents in 
case of short circuit. The supply terminals of are connected directly to a 
transformer and the method provided by the standard states "Power transformers, 
reactors, current transfomers, dry-type capacitors, resistors, varistors, and 
voltmeters are not required to have a short circuit current rating".  Having 
into account that the transformer is the only component in the primary side. 
How can we determine the SCCR of our equipment?? We determined the SCCR of the 
secondary side following the standard but I'm stuck with the primary side.

I'm thinking about put an infinite SCCR value but perhaps I'm being a bit 
optimistic.

I hope someone can give us any guidance.

Thank you very much in advance!!



Víctor Ostíbar
Product Compliance

vosti...@meler.eu
Tel. +34 948 68 19 31





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