Re: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public
My comments are threefold. 1. Searching UL databases is not a slam dunk: one almost never discovers exactly the details sought. The UL file #'s for PWBs and for insulating materials are the exceptions to this rule. In the past (I worked for a competitor to UL), I would have to use the UL file information in addition to physical inspection and some directed references, including public papers. From: Carl NewtonSent: Monday, March 9, 2015 10:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply To: Carl Newton Subject: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public I need to know what the temperature rating is on a power supply PWB and as usual, 2. It's usually considered as an insulation system, and the temp ratings are given by the stamping (aka, 94 V-0). The UL file can be invaluable here, because the conditions of use (most often thickness) are very important. http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/glocids.html no longer active... I called UL and the customer service rep was as helpful as possible. 3. Do a bit of online research; UL has LOTS of databases: even when I had to use them several times per week, I nearly always found a new one I hadn't known about. The new Insulation Database cited on this group looks promising, but the class Online database is still quite useful. he chased the question a bit is that UL will no longer make this information public. Sounds more like a generic reply a help-desk person will give to end the call. However, I do not believe UL is legally bound to keep detailed records public, only Company Name file number. Hence, #3 is a valuable skill to have. Regards,Brian Gregory - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public
This is interesting. Did the UL representative give a reason? Are there proprietary or non-disclosure issues? Thanks, - doug Douglas Powell http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. Original Message From: Carl Newton Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 10:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply To: Carl Newton Subject: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public Members, UL has always kept the list of their customers trademarks and tradenames indexes public. I've always relied heavily upon that information for ZPMV2 printed wiring board identification. I need to know what the temperature rating is on a power supply PWB and as usual, all I have to work with is the PWB manufacturer trademark. The following link is no longer functional: http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/glocids.html I called UL and the customer service rep was as helpful as possible. But the short answer after he chased the question a bit is that UL will no longer make this information public. Have any of you bumped into this issue yet, and if so, have you found an alternate solution? Thanks, Carl -- - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public
Purchase the latest available set of UL Yellow Books (Recognized Component Directory) that you can find and hope that most of the manufacturers haven't changed their logos since it was printed :-) -Ken On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Douglas Powell doug...@gmail.com wrote: This is interesting. Did the UL representative give a reason? Are there proprietary or non-disclosure issues? Thanks, - doug Douglas Powell http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. Original Message From: Carl Newton Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 10:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply To: Carl Newton Subject: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public Members, UL has always kept the list of their customers trademarks and tradenames indexes public. I've always relied heavily upon that information for ZPMV2 printed wiring board identification. I need to know what the temperature rating is on a power supply PWB and as usual, all I have to work with is the PWB manufacturer trademark. The following link is no longer functional: http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/glocids.html I called UL and the customer service rep was as helpful as possible. But the short answer after he chased the question a bit is that UL will no longer make this information public. Have any of you bumped into this issue yet, and if so, have you found an alternate solution? Thanks, Carl -- - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public
Carl Have you looked at http://iq.ul.com/ regards Charlie -Original Message- From: Carl Newton [mailto:emcl...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 March 2015 16:56 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public Members, UL has always kept the list of their customers trademarks and tradenames indexes public. I've always relied heavily upon that information for ZPMV2 printed wiring board identification. I need to know what the temperature rating is on a power supply PWB and as usual, all I have to work with is the PWB manufacturer trademark. The following link is no longer functional: http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/glocids.html I called UL and the customer service rep was as helpful as possible. But the short answer after he chased the question a bit is that UL will no longer make this information public. Have any of you bumped into this issue yet, and if so, have you found an alternate solution? Thanks, Carl -- - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public
This is probably better idea, as the material designation is typically part of the silk screen. The 'IQ' databases for PCBs can search via this designation. Brian -Original Message- From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 10:35 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public Carl Have you looked at http://iq.ul.com/ regards Charlie -Original Message- From: Carl Newton [mailto:emcl...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 March 2015 16:56 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public Members, UL has always kept the list of their customers trademarks and tradenames indexes public. I've always relied heavily upon that information for ZPMV2 printed wiring board identification. I need to know what the temperature rating is on a power supply PWB and as usual, all I have to work with is the PWB manufacturer trademark. The following link is no longer functional: http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/glocids.html I called UL and the customer service rep was as helpful as possible. But the short answer after he chased the question a bit is that UL will no longer make this information public. Have any of you bumped into this issue yet, and if so, have you found an alternate solution? Thanks, Carl - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public
Members, UL has always kept the list of their customers trademarks and tradenames indexes public. I've always relied heavily upon that information for ZPMV2 printed wiring board identification. I need to know what the temperature rating is on a power supply PWB and as usual, all I have to work with is the PWB manufacturer trademark. The following link is no longer functional: http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/glocids.html I called UL and the customer service rep was as helpful as possible. But the short answer after he chased the question a bit is that UL will no longer make this information public. Have any of you bumped into this issue yet, and if so, have you found an alternate solution? Thanks, Carl -- - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public
If it is true that UL will no longer make the information publically available, then a lot of people are going to have a lot of trouble deciding what something is, or what materials to use. OTOH, that info is actually highly commercially valuable to UL, but they have been effectively giving it away F.O.C., and thus to their direct competitors, for decades - so it's probably not really surprising if they are making this sort of change. The info probably is available (at least to some extent) to companies which hold UL Listing/Recognition (etc.) agreements as they will be paying UL some money all the time - and UL might even begin to give access rights to specific sections of the database to others, providing they pay (though the nose!) for it. Could be a wait-and-see situation for the moment? John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: Douglas Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 March 2015 17:10 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public This is interesting. Did the UL representative give a reason? Are there proprietary or non-disclosure issues? Thanks, - doug Douglas Powell http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. Original Message From: Carl Newton Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 10:56 AM To: mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply To: Carl Newton Subject: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public Members, UL has always kept the list of their customers trademarks and tradenames indexes public. I've always relied heavily upon that information for ZPMV2 printed wiring board identification. I need to know what the temperature rating is on a power supply PWB and as usual, all I have to work with is the PWB manufacturer trademark. The following link is no longer functional: http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/glocids.html http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/glocids.html I called UL and the customer service rep was as helpful as possible. But the short answer after he chased the question a bit is that UL will no longer make this information public. Have any of you bumped into this issue yet, and if so, have you found an alternate solution? Thanks, Carl -- - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: mailto:dhe...@gmail.com dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: mailto:dhe...@gmail.com dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public
OH DEAR! Think I dumped my last 1990’s vintage set just a decade or so ago From: IBM Ken [mailto:ibm...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 March 2015 17:21 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public Purchase the latest available set of UL Yellow Books (Recognized Component Directory) that you can find and hope that most of the manufacturers haven't changed their logos since it was printed :-) -Ken On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Douglas Powell doug...@gmail.com wrote: This is interesting. Did the UL representative give a reason? Are there proprietary or non-disclosure issues? Thanks, - doug Douglas Powell http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. Original Message From: Carl Newton Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 10:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply To: Carl Newton Subject: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public Members, UL has always kept the list of their customers trademarks and tradenames indexes public. I've always relied heavily upon that information for ZPMV2 printed wiring board identification. I need to know what the temperature rating is on a power supply PWB and as usual, all I have to work with is the PWB manufacturer trademark. The following link is no longer functional: http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/glocids.html I called UL and the customer service rep was as helpful as possible. But the short answer after he chased the question a bit is that UL will no longer make this information public. Have any of you bumped into this issue yet, and if so, have you found an alternate solution? Thanks, Carl -- - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large
Re: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public
Available if you know company name when you look at the vendor's 'ZPMV2' file number http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/index.htm But do not understand your need to know PCB ratings. If you must evaluate construction of the component power supply, then respectfully suggest that you find another supplier. Or am missing something obvious? Brian -Original Message- From: Carl Newton [mailto:emcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 9:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] UL Trademark and Tradename Indexes no longer public Members, UL has always kept the list of their customers trademarks and tradenames indexes public. I've always relied heavily upon that information for ZPMV2 printed wiring board identification. I need to know what the temperature rating is on a power supply PWB and as usual, all I have to work with is the PWB manufacturer trademark. The following link is no longer functional: http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/glocids.html I called UL and the customer service rep was as helpful as possible. But the short answer after he chased the question a bit is that UL will no longer make this information public. Have any of you bumped into this issue yet, and if so, have you found an alternate solution? Thanks, Carl - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
