Re: [PSES] What is a Test Plan?
In message <89922303-f06c-4de5-9908-60aa285ef...@ti.com>, dated Fri, 11 Oct 2013, "Gartman, W. Richard" writes: This is excellent reference Best Regards W. Richard Gartman, CSP Business Sustainability and Product Safety "Balancing People, Planet and Profits" Sent from my iPhone On Oct 11, 2013, at 3:56 PM, "Martin, Charles R (GE, Measurement & Control)" wrote: In the product family standard EN 61326-1: 2013, it notes: EN 61326-1 is the European (CENELEC) version of IEC 61326-1. ENs are usually very nearly the same as the underlying IEC version, but not identical, and some have very important differences and/or extra provisions. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk If dictionaries were correct, we would only need one, because they would all give the same information. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] What is a Test Plan?
This is excellent reference Best Regards W. Richard Gartman, CSP Business Sustainability and Product Safety "Balancing People, Planet and Profits" Sent from my iPhone On Oct 11, 2013, at 3:56 PM, "Martin, Charles R (GE, Measurement & Control)" mailto:charles.mar...@ge.com>> wrote: In the product family standard EN 61326-1: 2013, it notes: Section 5 EMC test plan 5.1 General An EMC test plan shall be established prior to testing. It shall contain, as a minimum, the elements given in 5.2 to 5.5. It may be determined from consideration of the electrical characteristics and usage of a particular item of equipment that some tests are inappropriate and therefore unnecessary. In such cases, the decision not to test shall be recorded in the EMC test plan. 5.2 Configuration of EUT during testing . 5.2.1 General . 5.2.2 Composition of EUT 5.2.3 Assembly of EUT . 5.2.4 I/O ports . 5.2.5 Auxiliary equipment 5.2.6 Cabling and earthing (grounding) . 5.3 Operation conditions of EUT during testing 5.3.1 Operation modes . 5.3.2 Environmental conditions 5.3.3 EUT software during test 5.4 Specification of functional performance . 5.5 Test description . And for the Test Report: 8 Test results and test report The test results shall be documented in a comprehensive test report with sufficient detail to provide for test repeatability. The test report shall contain the following minimum information: – EUT description; – EMC test plan; – test requirements, i.e. which type of electromagnetic environment is considered; – performance criteria; – test data and results; – if applicable, characteristics of equipment operation deviation from functional performance; – test equipment and test set-up. Charlie From: Conway, Patrick [mailto:pcon...@ball.com] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 2:37 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] What is a Test Plan? Tony – If “Test Plan” is re: EMC, then in some cases there are requirements for content. Try this search result (2 pages) for some examples: http://www.everyspec.com/DATA-ITEM-DESC-DIDs/DI-EMCS/ // Patrick pcon...@ball.com<mailto:pcon...@ball.com> 303.533.7165 303.408.9904 (cell) Westminster, CO 80021 From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] What is a Test Plan? What is a Test Plan? What should a Test Plan contain? My questions are intentionally vague and I ask this Group in the context of the interests of this group. Thanks in advance for your input, Tony. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=78ad13272d7f96fd54cb1b36d5eab780d734110115ebf6d283a8ce30f9ae6379> Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=d92541dbc3e2fea6146f1a5bf5b9718bf9f4809b6d774e347c4f256445abb2c1> can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ieee-pses.org/&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=166d0017d264ef3dccd68e04a3a04c643fd58ec6c79e3ef542536711ef08738c> Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=01578cd31614f3d03592db384efcdc19e7c84a899df5a699867c870122188ab3> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=88e7e03056ee3d649ef54e2654b8c340e489436a75f3597dac649d984a279eb5> For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott
Re: [PSES] What is a Test Plan?
In the product family standard EN 61326-1: 2013, it notes: Section 5 EMC test plan 5.1 General An EMC test plan shall be established prior to testing. It shall contain, as a minimum, the elements given in 5.2 to 5.5. It may be determined from consideration of the electrical characteristics and usage of a particular item of equipment that some tests are inappropriate and therefore unnecessary. In such cases, the decision not to test shall be recorded in the EMC test plan. 5.2 Configuration of EUT during testing . 5.2.1 General . 5.2.2 Composition of EUT 5.2.3 Assembly of EUT . 5.2.4 I/O ports . 5.2.5 Auxiliary equipment 5.2.6 Cabling and earthing (grounding) . 5.3 Operation conditions of EUT during testing 5.3.1 Operation modes . 5.3.2 Environmental conditions 5.3.3 EUT software during test 5.4 Specification of functional performance . 5.5 Test description . And for the Test Report: 8 Test results and test report The test results shall be documented in a comprehensive test report with sufficient detail to provide for test repeatability. The test report shall contain the following minimum information: – EUT description; – EMC test plan; – test requirements, i.e. which type of electromagnetic environment is considered; – performance criteria; – test data and results; – if applicable, characteristics of equipment operation deviation from functional performance; – test equipment and test set-up. Charlie From: Conway, Patrick [mailto:pcon...@ball.com] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 2:37 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] What is a Test Plan? Tony – If “Test Plan” is re: EMC, then in some cases there are requirements for content. Try this search result (2 pages) for some examples: http://www.everyspec.com/DATA-ITEM-DESC-DIDs/DI-EMCS/ // Patrick pcon...@ball.com<mailto:pcon...@ball.com> 303.533.7165 303.408.9904 (cell) Westminster, CO 80021 From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] What is a Test Plan? What is a Test Plan? What should a Test Plan contain? My questions are intentionally vague and I ask this Group in the context of the interests of this group. Thanks in advance for your input, Tony. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=78ad13272d7f96fd54cb1b36d5eab780d734110115ebf6d283a8ce30f9ae6379> Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=d92541dbc3e2fea6146f1a5bf5b9718bf9f4809b6d774e347c4f256445abb2c1> can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ieee-pses.org/&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=166d0017d264ef3dccd68e04a3a04c643fd58ec6c79e3ef542536711ef08738c> Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=01578cd31614f3d03592db384efcdc19e7c84a899df5a699867c870122188ab3> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=88e7e03056ee3d649ef54e2654b8c340e489436a75f3597dac649d984a279eb5> For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net>> Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> This message and any enclosures are intended only for the addressee. Please notify the sender by email if you are not the intended
Re: [PSES] What is a Test Plan?
Tony – If “Test Plan” is re: EMC, then in some cases there are requirements for content. Try this search result (2 pages) for some examples: http://www.everyspec.com/DATA-ITEM-DESC-DIDs/DI-EMCS/ // Patrick pcon...@ball.com<mailto:pcon...@ball.com> 303.533.7165 303.408.9904 (cell) Westminster, CO 80021 From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] What is a Test Plan? What is a Test Plan? What should a Test Plan contain? My questions are intentionally vague and I ask this Group in the context of the interests of this group. Thanks in advance for your input, Tony. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org>> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=78ad13272d7f96fd54cb1b36d5eab780d734110115ebf6d283a8ce30f9ae6379> Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=d92541dbc3e2fea6146f1a5bf5b9718bf9f4809b6d774e347c4f256445abb2c1> can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ieee-pses.org/&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=166d0017d264ef3dccd68e04a3a04c643fd58ec6c79e3ef542536711ef08738c> Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=01578cd31614f3d03592db384efcdc19e7c84a899df5a699867c870122188ab3> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html&k=1GMYaKjmAz8SrwAdnQ9klA%3D%3D%0A&r=yjNQIICs56Eepm9PApdJRg%3D%3D%0A&m=HvmUpBaPTrmlPz4Y2wFzGlIWNcOHLxPRjuH57%2Bvzf5M%3D%0A&s=88e7e03056ee3d649ef54e2654b8c340e489436a75f3597dac649d984a279eb5> For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas mailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net>> Mike Cantwell mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org>> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org>> David Heald mailto:dhe...@gmail.com>> This message and any enclosures are intended only for the addressee. Please notify the sender by email if you are not the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disclose, or distribute this message or its contents or enclosures to any other person and any such actions may be unlawful. Ball reserves the right to monitor and review all messages and enclosures sent to or from this email address. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] What is a Test Plan?
Anthony,If you are testing to one of the various IEC safety standards or an IEC-derived standard or CISPR standards, there are many official test report forms (TRF) available on the IECEE website. You can ask your agency for a copy. I would suggest that any table or entry in the TRF requiring instrumentation/fixturing and recorded data is part of the test plan. Obviously, one should consolidate their testing efforts where possible and attention should be paid to sequence of tests where required. For example, some standards may require the insulation test be performed immediately after humidity exposure.Often, manufacturers will do their own internal testing prior to going to the agency. Eventually they may realize that many of the tests for product compliance have similarities to reliability testing. In these cases it is useful to collaborate test plans in order to decrease time to market.Thanks, - dougDouglas PowellSkype: doug.powell52http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 From: Anthony ThomsonSent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:56 AMTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGReply To: Anthony ThomsonSubject: [PSES] What is a Test Plan?What is a Test Plan? What should a Test Plan contain? My questions are intentionally vague and I ask this Group in the context of the interests of this group. Thanks in advance for your input,Tony. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com>
Re: [PSES] What is a Test Plan?
In message <20131010145550.90...@gmx.com>, dated Thu, 10 Oct 2013, Anthony Thomson writes: What is a Test Plan? What should a Test Plan contain? My questions are intentionally vague and I ask this Group in the context of the interests of this group. Many of the IEC 61000-4 series standards, that set test conditions, include a clause explaining what a test report should include. From this, it is not too difficult to determine what the test plan has to be in order to provide the results required for the test report. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk If dictionaries were correct, we would only need one, because they would all give the same information. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
[PSES] What is a Test Plan?
What is a Test Plan? What should a Test Plan contain? My questions are intentionally vague and I ask this Group in the context of the interests of this group. Thanks in advance for your input, Tony. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
