RE: CCFL light output

2002-02-28 Thread John Shinn

I think I understand what he is asking -
He has a chart of (CCFL) tubes with specified length and diameter and Lumens
output for
that specific tube length and diameter.  What he wants is the relationship
between the
light output in Lumens and the necessary input power in Watts.

I would go back to the manufacturer for that information.

John Shinn, P.E.


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I read in !emc-pstc that Wani, Vijay (V)  wrote (in
) about 'CCFL light
output', on Wed, 27 Feb 2002:
> I am trying to build a thermal model a cold cathode fluorescent lamp
(CCFL)
>for cooling analysis.  CCFL manufacturer showing a chart of light output in
>Lumens as a function of lamp length and diameter.  I need to convert lumens
>to watts for input into Icepak. I would appreciate any help you can
provide.

Your question may have been misunderstood. Are you looking for the
thermal power produced by absorption of the light by surrounding
components? Or the power input to the lamp required to produce a light
output of a given number of lumens?
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Re: CCFL light output

2002-02-28 Thread John Woodgate

I read in !emc-pstc that Wani, Vijay (V)  wrote (in
) about 'CCFL light
output', on Wed, 27 Feb 2002:
> I am trying to build a thermal model a cold cathode fluorescent lamp (CCFL)
>for cooling analysis.  CCFL manufacturer showing a chart of light output in
>Lumens as a function of lamp length and diameter.  I need to convert lumens
>to watts for input into Icepak. I would appreciate any help you can provide.

Your question may have been misunderstood. Are you looking for the
thermal power produced by absorption of the light by surrounding
components? Or t


Re: CCFL light output

2002-02-27 Thread Robert Macy

Recommend you get a copy of Westinghouse Lighting Handbook

In one table they show lumens output for various fluorescent lamps with
current and volts input required.

for the Preheated
des.len curr. vol. *pwr lumens *lumens/watt
4W   6  0.132 32   4.32  115   26.6
6W   9  0.147 47   6.91  250   36.2
8W  12  0.170 56   9.56  420   43.9
20W 24  0.380 56   21.321220   57.2
30W 36  0.355 98   34.8 2100   60.3
84W 60  1.530 63   96.4 6250   64.8

for the High Output
len*pwr   lumens   *lumens/watt
24 32.8160048.8
48 60  400053.5
72 90.4645071.3
961328 900068.2

for the Super-Hi, Outdoor, and Low temp-jacketed
len*pwr   lumens   *lumens/watt
48 129 6900   53.5
72 19211100   62.5
96 25815500   60.1

*calculated values


Appears to be a nonlinear relationship.

Also, Slimline which come in smaller/different diameters have different
lumens per watt for the same length.


There is another curve rating efficiency (lumens per watt) which ranges from
52 lumens per watt for a natural color lamp to 80 lumens per watt for warm
white lamps.  But it doesn't say which basic tube is used as a reference.
Probably 72inch


Is this enough for you to do your modeling?

 - Robert -

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Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:27 AM
Subject: CCFL light output


>
>Group:
> I am trying to build a thermal model a cold cathode fluorescent lamp
(CCFL)
>for cooling analysis.  CCFL manufacturer showing a chart of light output in
>Lumens as a function of lamp length and diameter.  I need to convert lumens
>to watts for input into Icepak. I would appreciate any help you can
provide.
>
>thank you in advance.
>
>Vijay Wani
>



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