Re: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
Hi Doug: I've only heard shortening the yellow light cycle as an unconfirmed rumor. But I've been watching. grin According to our local newspaper, the San Diego Union- Tribune, not only did the contract photo cops shorten the yellow light, they also moved the sensors. The contract photo cops get a percentage of the fine. The fine is $271, and the photo cops get $70 or so. The contract photo cops choose the intersections and set up the system. Only the intersections with known high-volume red-light runners were set up. The whole operation was based on maximizing revenue (in the name of vehicular safety) for the photo cops, a private business. The contract photo cops do the whole job without supervision from real cops. A class-action lawsuit has shut down the cameras. You may be able to find some articles on the UT web site. The hullabaloo was about a year ago. Best regards, Rich --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
Interesting stuff Paul. With all the crap about pirate cable boxes and things, I'm surprised someone hasn't jammed those boxes. Anyone know what the immunity standards of such devices would be if it's required? - Doug McKean --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
This thread has digressed quite a bit... Allow me to add to it! 3M makes something called the Opticom System. It is a traffic management device that really helps emergency vehicles make their way thru heavy traffic... Here's an article that summarizes it nicely: http://www.pilotonline.com/news/nw0111roa.html Also, there is a well produced video under the 3M Opticom System section here: http://www.3m.com/us/safety/tcm/products/itsvids.jhtml Paul Hare e: ph...@pirus.com Compliance Engineer w: 978.206.9179 Pirus Networks f: 978.206.9199 43 Nagog Park c: 508.450.0376 Acton, MA 01720 i: www.pirus.com -Original Message- From: Doug McKean [mailto:dmck...@corp.auspex.com] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:38 AM To: ieee pstc list Subject: Re: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light! Just as a side issue about remote monitoring of red-light runners ... One unintended consequence of cameras watching for people who run lights happened in Fremont about 2 years ago. A couple of stop lights were set up with cameras as an experiment. During the course of rush hour traffic one day at one of the experimental camera sites, an emergency vehicle was stuck behind several vehicles sitting for a red light. Apparently the fire truck was boxed in since the roads were several lanes wide and the truck was all the way over in a right lane. Lights and siren were blaring away. Q: Did any of the cars move out of the way of the fire truck and in doing so some would have to move through the intersection and thus thru the red light? A: No. Reason: No one wanted to get a ticket running the red light. Be rather ironic that the fire truck was responding to the home of someone sitting at that intersection. Just something to think about. Regards, Doug McKean --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
Once again, the legal system scores a victory over common sense! Bob Wilson TIR Systems Ltd. Vancouver. -Original Message- From: Bill Owsley [mailto:ows...@cisco.com] Sent: March 8, 2002 7:15 AM To: Doug McKean; ieee pstc list Subject: Re: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light! Don't know about CA, but in this state, yes, a driver would get a ticket. Drivers are required to yield as long as they don't break a law. At 08:37 AM 3/8/2002, Doug McKean wrote: Just as a side issue about remote monitoring of red-light runners ... One unintended consequence of cameras watching for people who run lights happened in Fremont about 2 years ago. A couple of stop lights were set up with cameras as an experiment. During the course of rush hour traffic one day at one of the experimental camera sites, an emergency vehicle was stuck behind several vehicles sitting for a red light. Apparently the fire truck was boxed in since the roads were several lanes wide and the truck was all the way over in a right lane. Lights and siren were blaring away. Q: Did any of the cars move out of the way of the fire truck and in doing so some would have to move through the intersection and thus thru the red light? A: No. Reason: No one wanted to get a ticket running the red light. Be rather ironic that the fire truck was responding to the home of someone sitting at that intersection. Just something to think about. Regards, Doug McKean --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
I read in !emc-pstc that Doug McKean dmck...@corp.auspex.com wrote (in 000401c1c6a6$72ed0010$cb3e3...@corp.auspex.com) about 'Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!', on Fri, 8 Mar 2002: Q: Did any of the cars move out of the way of the fire truck and in doing so some would have to move through the intersection and thus thru the red light? A: No. Reason: No one wanted to get a ticket running the red light. Be rather ironic that the fire truck was responding to the home of someone sitting at that intersection. Just something to think about. In Britain, it is a defence to show that you were clearing the path for an emergency vehicle. People who don't move for a fire tender are often 'informed' of this by the senior fire-fighter present. Paramedics seem to be less inclined to do so. OTOH, people will often move voluntarily for an ambulance. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
Don't know about CA, but in this state, yes, a driver would get a ticket. Drivers are required to yield as long as they don't break a law. At 08:37 AM 3/8/2002, Doug McKean wrote: Just as a side issue about remote monitoring of red-light runners ... One unintended consequence of cameras watching for people who run lights happened in Fremont about 2 years ago. A couple of stop lights were set up with cameras as an experiment. During the course of rush hour traffic one day at one of the experimental camera sites, an emergency vehicle was stuck behind several vehicles sitting for a red light. Apparently the fire truck was boxed in since the roads were several lanes wide and the truck was all the way over in a right lane. Lights and siren were blaring away. Q: Did any of the cars move out of the way of the fire truck and in doing so some would have to move through the intersection and thus thru the red light? A: No. Reason: No one wanted to get a ticket running the red light. Be rather ironic that the fire truck was responding to the home of someone sitting at that intersection. Just something to think about. Regards, Doug McKean --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list Bill Owsley, ows...@cisco.com 919) 392-8341 Compliance Engineer Cisco Systems 7025 Kit Creek Road POB 14987 RTP. NC. 27709 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
Just as a side issue about remote monitoring of red-light runners ... One unintended consequence of cameras watching for people who run lights happened in Fremont about 2 years ago. A couple of stop lights were set up with cameras as an experiment. During the course of rush hour traffic one day at one of the experimental camera sites, an emergency vehicle was stuck behind several vehicles sitting for a red light. Apparently the fire truck was boxed in since the roads were several lanes wide and the truck was all the way over in a right lane. Lights and siren were blaring away. Q: Did any of the cars move out of the way of the fire truck and in doing so some would have to move through the intersection and thus thru the red light? A: No. Reason: No one wanted to get a ticket running the red light. Be rather ironic that the fire truck was responding to the home of someone sitting at that intersection. Just something to think about. Regards, Doug McKean --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
-Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:25 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light! I read in !emc-pstc that Cortland Richmond 72146@compuserve.com wrote (in 200203071101_mc3-f4e2-e...@compuserve.com) about 'Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!', on Thu, 7 Mar 2002: Another interesting susceptibility issue is usually not addressed. Snow. I have seen (in Germany) a radar stoplight camera flashing over and over again as it tried to capture on film snowflakes rash enough to pass while the light was red. In Germany, even the snowflakes *must* observe the regulations. (;-) -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. Oh no! A Precipitation Directive?! Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military Avionics EMC Services Is Our Specialty Shake-Bake-Shock - Metrology - Reliability Analysis --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
I read in !emc-pstc that Cortland Richmond 72146@compuserve.com wrote (in 200203071101_mc3-f4e2-e...@compuserve.com) about 'Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!', on Thu, 7 Mar 2002: Another interesting susceptibility issue is usually not addressed. Snow. I have seen (in Germany) a radar stoplight camera flashing over and over again as it tried to capture on film snowflakes rash enough to pass while the light was red. In Germany, even the snowflakes *must* observe the regulations. (;-) -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
Another interesting susceptibility issue is usually not addressed. Snow. I have seen (in Germany) a radar stoplight camera flashing over and over again as it tried to capture on film snowflakes rash enough to pass while the light was red. Cortland --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
Peter, For your equipment special consideration of transient levels is needed. Refer to annex G of 60950. If you power the pole mounted equipment from overhead lines as do streetlights, you are likely to be overvoltage category IV which might mean mains transient levels of 4 or 6 KV. If the camera is remotely powered from inside a building, you might treat the installation as TNV3, where 1.5 KV is the assumed transient level (2.10.3.3 note 2) unless you know otherwise. Don't forget you need lightning protection considerations. (References are to IEC 60950-1 (2001-10) Ed. 1.0) Bob Johnson ITE Safety -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Peter Merguerian Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:52 AM To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light! Dear All, For an outdoor pole-mounted computerized camera taking pictures of your car and its license plates when you run over a red light, does anyone have an objection to the following safety standards for ITE? Is it ok to assume that the mains transient voltage for outddor equipment is limited to 2500V? UL60950:2000] EN60950:2000 IEC60950:2000 This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the message and its attachments to the sender. PETER S. MERGUERIAN Technical Director I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. 26 Hacharoshet St., POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: + 972-(0)3-5339022 Fax: + 972-(0)3-5339019 Mobile: + 972-(0)54-838175 http://www.itl.co.il http://www.i-spec.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list attachment: Robert Johnson.vcf
Re: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
I read in !emc-pstc that Peter Merguerian pmerguer...@itl.co.il wrote (in 2D1037012914D4118DB8204C4F4F50203DD1E2@ITLLTD01) about 'Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!', on Wed, 6 Mar 2002: For an outdoor pole-mounted computerized camera taking pictures of your car and its license plates when you run over a red light, does anyone have an objection to the following safety standards for ITE? Is it ok to assume that the mains transient voltage for outddor equipment is limited to 2500V? UL60950:2000] EN60950:2000 IEC60950:2000 I think there is some doubt as to whether such a product is ITE or not, but I think the standards you cite are acceptable. As regards the mains supply, the transient voltage could be up to 6 kV in some parts of the world, and with overhead power distribution. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
Did you take a look at the people who make traffic light controllers? , and the magnetic sensor people? If you can't find something, I'll see what's in archives around here. Know nothing related to your needs, just some of the players' names. Also, you'd be amazed the information you can get from the city engineers regarding this stuff - well at least here in San Jose. - Robert - Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com 408 286 3985 fx 408 297 9121 AJM International Electronics Consultants 619 North First St, San Jose, CA 95112 -Original Message- From: Peter Merguerian pmerguer...@itl.co.il To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light! Dear All, For an outdoor pole-mounted computerized camera taking pictures of your car and its license plates when you run over a red light, does anyone have an objection to the following safety standards for ITE? Is it ok to assume that the mains transient voltage for outddor equipment is limited to 2500V? UL60950:2000] EN60950:2000 IEC60950:2000 This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the message and its attachments to the sender. PETER S. MERGUERIAN Technical Director I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. 26 Hacharoshet St., POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: + 972-(0)3-5339022 Fax: + 972-(0)3-5339019 Mobile: + 972-(0)54-838175 http://www.itl.co.il http://www.i-spec.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Don'r Get Caught Running a Red Traffic Light!
Dear All, For an outdoor pole-mounted computerized camera taking pictures of your car and its license plates when you run over a red light, does anyone have an objection to the following safety standards for ITE? Is it ok to assume that the mains transient voltage for outddor equipment is limited to 2500V? UL60950:2000] EN60950:2000 IEC60950:2000 This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the message and its attachments to the sender. PETER S. MERGUERIAN Technical Director I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. 26 Hacharoshet St., POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: + 972-(0)3-5339022 Fax: + 972-(0)3-5339019 Mobile: + 972-(0)54-838175 http://www.itl.co.il http://www.i-spec.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
