RE: Dual names on regulatory labels

1998-07-14 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
The easiest way of solving dual markings is for the OEM's information to be
located on the rear label and for the private brand name and model number to
be on the front of the product. The "legal" information continues to be
located on the OEM's label. I know of one PC manufacturer that has done
this, because I was the one that did it.

Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
wo...@sensormatic.com
Views expressed by the author do not necessarily represent those of
Sensormatic.
 



RE: Dual names on regulatory labels

1998-07-14 Thread Gary Labadie
My understanding to this situation with respect to the UL, FM, CSA
agencies, is the True manufacturer is best to put the file number on the
product label.  The file number identifies the real manufacturer without
showing their name.  The name is available if you call the approval
agency and give them the file number on the product though.  

Within this file, resides other names such as Company A's.  They are
considered what is called a "Multiple Listee".  Therefore, if you have
several OEM's selling your product, Each OEM's name is listed in the
approval file.  The act of putting the file number on the product,
allows the true manufacturer not to place his/her name on the label, but
instead any other name on the multiple listing.  Without the File number
on the product label, then the real manufacturer has to identify
themselves on the product.  This is my version as it relates to third
party safety approvals.  

A great example of this is the "Opto 22 style" solid state relays
(ODC5,IDC5 relays).  hundreds of OEM's sell these but there are only a
couple of manufacturer's of the product.

Best Regards,

Gary Labadie
Approvals Coordinator

Acromag, Inc.
30765 Wixom Rd.Ph: (248)624-1541 ext. 205
P.O. Box 437   Fax:(248)624-9234
Wixom, MI 48393Email: glaba...@acromag.com


-Original Message-
From: Douglas Mckean [mailto:dmck...@corp.auspex.com]
Sent: Monday, July 13, 1998 11:29 PM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: Dual names on regulatory labels


chasgra...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hello!!
> 
> I have a question regarding dual manufacturers names on a regulatory
> label.
> 
> >From an EMC perspective:
> 
> The situation is that Company A wishes to buy product from  Company B
> and resell using Company As name and model number.
> 
> In order to save time, Company A wishes to use BOTH sets of
> model numbers on the SAME label as well as using company
> B licence numbers etc.
> 
> Is this legally acceptable??

Yes, as long as the appropriate paperwork 
from the agencies concerned shows both company 
names and both model numbers in the reports. 

If Company B did the testing, then Company A 
must make arrangements with Company B to 
have the documentation changed accordingly. 

It gets trickier if Company A doesn't want any 
reference or mention of Company B in any of the 
documentation to include Company B's model numbers. 
For instance, FCC Part 15 Class A reports may be 
changed to reflect only Company A's name and model 
numbers.  The change only requires a change to 
documentation fee.  But, FCC Part 68 reports require 
a registration on the part Company A with the FCC.  
I think I have that correct ...


Re: Dual names on regulatory labels

1998-07-14 Thread Douglas Mckean
chasgra...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hello!!
> 
> I have a question regarding dual manufacturers names on a regulatory
> label.
> 
> >From an EMC perspective:
> 
> The situation is that Company A wishes to buy product from  Company B
> and resell using Company As name and model number.
> 
> In order to save time, Company A wishes to use BOTH sets of
> model numbers on the SAME label as well as using company
> B licence numbers etc.
> 
> Is this legally acceptable??

Yes, as long as the appropriate paperwork 
from the agencies concerned shows both company 
names and both model numbers in the reports. 

If Company B did the testing, then Company A 
must make arrangements with Company B to 
have the documentation changed accordingly. 

It gets trickier if Company A doesn't want any 
reference or mention of Company B in any of the 
documentation to include Company B's model numbers. 
For instance, FCC Part 15 Class A reports may be 
changed to reflect only Company A's name and model 
numbers.  The change only requires a change to 
documentation fee.  But, FCC Part 68 reports require 
a registration on the part Company A with the FCC.  
I think I have that correct ...


Re: Dual names on regulatory labels

1998-07-14 Thread ron_pickard
 Hi Chas,
 
 >I have a question regarding dual manufacturers names
 >on a regulatory label.
 
 Dual maunfacturers?
 
 >From an EMC perspective:
 >
 >The situation is that Company A wishes to buy product from
 >Company B and resell using Company As name and model number.
 >
 In order to save time, Company A wishes to use BOTH sets of
 >model numbers on the SAME label as well as using company
 >B licence numbers etc.
 
 Having two sets of model numbers on the same label may be a bit confusing. 
 Which model number goes with which company?
 
 Maybe the bigger question here is why on the same label? On the practical 
side, 
 having a single label would force Company A or Company B to make a special 
 label that has both company's model numbers on it. Maybe Company A could make 
a 
 barcode label without having to impact Company B's label?
 
 >Is this legally acceptable??
 
 IMO, the legal implication(s) will likely exist only with the affected safety 
 agencies whose logos appear on the product
 
 Of course, the above is only my opinion. And, what do I know anyway?
 
 Best regards,
 ron Pickard
 ron_pick...@hypercom.com



Dual names on regulatory labels

1998-07-13 Thread ChasGrasso
Hello!!

I have a question regarding dual manufacturers names on a regulatory
label.

>From an EMC perspective:

The situation is that Company A wishes to buy product from  Company B
and resell using Company As name and model number.

In order to save time, Company A wishes to use BOTH sets of 
model numbers on the SAME label as well as using company
B licence numbers etc.

Is this legally acceptable??