RE: EU Language requirements for Manuals
I am involved in a similar language project. Like Gerald, I am finding that these rules come from governmental legislation (not just from project standards or EU directives). Legislation is often more difficult to track down than standards, and I believe it would be useful to most people on this list if we were to begin to establish a list of known requirements. Is anyone aware of similar language requirements elsewhere in the world? In the Canadian Provence of Quebec, just about all product literature is required to be in French. This requirement comes from the Charter of the French Language, and is available online at http://www.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/english/charter/title1chapter7.html. Best regards, Steve Gerald Tammi gera...@zoom.com 5/1/2003 9:51:33 AM I have just gone through a major project as it applies to language. The EU directives only require that the manuals (user and service) and the DoC be in an official language of the EU (13 possibilities). However it gives the local countries the authority to impose additional if not contradictive regulations. As a compromise, there is an informal brief DoC in thirteen languages that can be inserted in the manual that will cover most circumstances. In the case of Spain, they require that the user and service manuals be printed in the official language of Spain (Castilian). The also require that there be an official full signed printed DoC in Castilian be in the manual. If not the manufacture or importer of the product can be fined. This requirement is not in any EU document, but is buried in the rules and regulations under royal decree (be prepare it is available only in Spanish). I had to read a total of about 1200 pages of Spanish law to find the regulations I have not yet come up with any other country regulations regarding specific language requirements
RE: EU Language requirements for Manuals
As long as consumer products are concerned, it's best to assume that the end user only speaks and reads his own language. You want him/her to buy you gadget and learn how to use it, you know what to do. Nice pictures are often very helpful. Ari From: ext Stephen Irving [mailto:sirv...@lutron.com] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 4:55 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; gera...@zoom.com Cc: Bob Spehalski Subject: RE: EU Language requirements for Manuals I am involved in a similar language project. Like Gerald, I am finding that these rules come from governmental legislation (not just from project standards or EU directives). Legislation is often more difficult to track down than standards, and I believe it would be useful to most people on this list if we were to begin to establish a list of known requirements. Is anyone aware of similar language requirements elsewhere in the world? In the Canadian Provence of Quebec, just about all product literature is required to be in French. This requirement comes from the Charter of the French Language, and is available online at http://www.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/english/charter/title1chapter7.html. Best regards, Steve Gerald Tammi gera...@zoom.com 5/1/2003 9:51:33 AM I have just gone through a major project as it applies to language. The EU directives only require that the manuals (user and service) and the DoC be in an official language of the EU (13 possibilities). However it gives the local countries the authority to impose additional if not contradictive regulations. As a compromise, there is an informal brief DoC in thirteen languages that can be inserted in the manual that will cover most circumstances. In the case of Spain, they require that the user and service manuals be printed in the official language of Spain (Castilian). The also require that there be an official full signed printed DoC in Castilian be in the manual. If not the manufacture or importer of the product can be fined. This requirement is not in any EU document, but is buried in the rules and regulations under royal decree (be prepare it is available only in Spanish). I had to read a total of about 1200 pages of Spanish law to find the regulations I have not yet come up with any other country regulations regarding specific language requirements This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: EU Language requirements for Manuals
Gerald, is the Spanish requirement for a particular directive? Which one(s)? Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International From: Gerald Tammi [mailto:gera...@zoom.com] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 9:52 AM To: 'ext-dave.wil...@nokia.com'; john_t...@bose.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EU Language requirements for Manuals I have just gone through a major project as it applies to language. The EU directives only require that the manuals (user and service) and the DoC be in an official language of the EU (13 possibilities). However it gives the local countries the authority to impose additional if not contradictive regulations. As a compromise, there is an informal brief DoC in thirteen languages that can be inserted in the manual that will cover most circumstances. In the case of Spain, they require that the user and service manuals be printed in the official language of Spain (Castilian). The also require that there be an official full signed printed DoC in Castilian be in the manual. If not the manufacture or importer of the product can be fined. This requirement is not in any EU document, but is buried in the rules and regulations under royal decree (be prepare it is available only in Spanish). I had to read a total of about 1200 pages of Spanish law to find the regulations I have not yet come up with any other country regulations regarding specific language requirements.
RE: EU Language requirements for Manuals
Where would one find a translator for Elbonian? Dave From: Tyra, John [mailto:john_t...@bose.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:39 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: EU Language requirements for Manuals Hello everyone, I was hoping someone out there could help me determine what are the language requirements for translation of manuals for the CE-Mark. As I am sure most of you know Bose makes Audio/Video products. Our products fall under the LVD, EMC, and for wireless remotes the RTTE Directives. I have read each of these Directives and associated standards, IEC60065 etc., and could only find reference that the Safety Related instructions must be translated into the language acceptable in the country of sale. We have had some of our European contacts claim that there are Local laws in some EU countries which require the complete users and possibly service manuals to be translated into the appropriate language for the country of sale. Can any one advise me: 1. If any EU country requires the complete manual to be translated into the acceptable language 2. If there are such requirements in some of the EU countries does anyone know which countries impose these extra requirements? 3. Anyone know of a resource where this information is available?? Thanks in advance for your help. Best regards, John John Tyra Product Safety and Regulatory Compliance Manager Bose Corporation The Mountain, MS-450 Framingham, MA 01701-9168 Phone: 508-766-1502 Fax: 508-766-1145 john_t...@bose.com
RE: EU Language requirements for Manuals
www.dilbert.com http://www.dilbert.com/ ? From: drcuthb...@micron.com [mailto:drcuthb...@micron.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 3:38 PM To: john_t...@bose.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: EU Language requirements for Manuals Where would one find a translator for Elbonian? Dave From: Tyra, John [mailto:john_t...@bose.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:39 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: EU Language requirements for Manuals Hello everyone, I was hoping someone out there could help me determine what are the language requirements for translation of manuals for the CE-Mark. As I am sure most of you know Bose makes Audio/Video products. Our products fall under the LVD, EMC, and for wireless remotes the RTTE Directives. I have read each of these Directives and associated standards, IEC60065 etc., and could only find reference that the Safety Related instructions must be translated into the language acceptable in the country of sale. We have had some of our European contacts claim that there are Local laws in some EU countries which require the complete users and possibly service manuals to be translated into the appropriate language for the country of sale. Can any one advise me: 1. If any EU country requires the complete manual to be translated into the acceptable language 2. If there are such requirements in some of the EU countries does anyone know which countries impose these extra requirements? 3. Anyone know of a resource where this information is available?? Thanks in advance for your help. Best regards, John John Tyra Product Safety and Regulatory Compliance Manager Bose Corporation The Mountain, MS-450 Framingham, MA 01701-9168 Phone: 508-766-1502 Fax: 508-766-1145 john_t...@bose.com
RE: EU Language requirements for Manuals
John, unless proved otherwise, I would expect the consumer legislation requiring translations in all official languages in the countries you are selling your product. Complete manual, not just safety instructions. Safety standard has nothing to do with this. Ari From: ext Tyra, John [mailto:john_t...@bose.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 11:39 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: EU Language requirements for Manuals Hello everyone, I was hoping someone out there could help me determine what are the language requirements for translation of manuals for the CE-Mark. As I am sure most of you know Bose makes Audio/Video products. Our products fall under the LVD, EMC, and for wireless remotes the RTTE Directives. I have read each of these Directives and associated standards, IEC60065 etc., and could only find reference that the Safety Related instructions must be translated into the language acceptable in the country of sale. We have had some of our European contacts claim that there are Local laws in some EU countries which require the complete users and possibly service manuals to be translated into the appropriate language for the country of sale. Can any one advise me: 1. If any EU country requires the complete manual to be translated into the acceptable language 2. If there are such requirements in some of the EU countries does anyone know which countries impose these extra requirements? 3. Anyone know of a resource where this information is available?? Thanks in advance for your help. Best regards, John John Tyra Product Safety and Regulatory Compliance Manager Bose Corporation The Mountain, MS-450 Framingham, MA 01701-9168 Phone: 508-766-1502 Fax: 508-766-1145 john_t...@bose.com
Re: EU Language requirements for Manuals
I read in !emc-pstc that drcuthb...@micron.com wrote (in CFEFA50C9BCAD2 1197470001fa7eba6b14121...@ntexchange05.micron.com) about 'EU Language requirements for Manuals' on Tue, 29 Apr 2003: Where would one find a translator for Elbonian? Ask on sci.lang.translation.marketplace -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: EU Language requirements for Manuals
Hi John, ICC in Chepstow, UK has this information for all countries. Contact Ian Jennings at ianjenni...@icc-uk.com. Best regards, Dave Wilson From: ext Tyra, John [mailto:john_t...@bose.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:39 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: EU Language requirements for Manuals Hello everyone, I was hoping someone out there could help me determine what are the language requirements for translation of manuals for the CE-Mark. As I am sure most of you know Bose makes Audio/Video products. Our products fall under the LVD, EMC, and for wireless remotes the RTTE Directives. I have read each of these Directives and associated standards, IEC60065 etc., and could only find reference that the Safety Related instructions must be translated into the language acceptable in the country of sale. We have had some of our European contacts claim that there are Local laws in some EU countries which require the complete users and possibly service manuals to be translated into the appropriate language for the country of sale. Can any one advise me: 1. If any EU country requires the complete manual to be translated into the acceptable language 2. If there are such requirements in some of the EU countries does anyone know which countries impose these extra requirements? 3. Anyone know of a resource where this information is available?? Thanks in advance for your help. Best regards, John John Tyra Product Safety and Regulatory Compliance Manager Bose Corporation The Mountain, MS-450 Framingham, MA 01701-9168 Phone: 508-766-1502 Fax: 508-766-1145 john_t...@bose.com
EU Language requirements for Manuals
Hello everyone, I was hoping someone out there could help me determine what are the language requirements for translation of manuals for the CE-Mark. As I am sure most of you know Bose makes Audio/Video products. Our products fall under the LVD, EMC, and for wireless remotes the RTTE Directives. I have read each of these Directives and associated standards, IEC60065 etc., and could only find reference that the Safety Related instructions must be translated into the language acceptable in the country of sale. We have had some of our European contacts claim that there are Local laws in some EU countries which require the complete users and possibly service manuals to be translated into the appropriate language for the country of sale. Can any one advise me: 1. If any EU country requires the complete manual to be translated into the acceptable language 2. If there are such requirements in some of the EU countries does anyone know which countries impose these extra requirements? 3. Anyone know of a resource where this information is available?? Thanks in advance for your help. Best regards, John John Tyra Product Safety and Regulatory Compliance Manager Bose Corporation The Mountain, MS-450 Framingham, MA 01701-9168 Phone: 508-766-1502 Fax: 508-766-1145 john_t...@bose.com
