Re: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada
Thank you very much, Kevin and others.
In addition, IC recommends a Canadian representative signed letter accompanies
each application to speed up the certification process.
An IC officer gave me the following labeling clarification:
1. If a marketing company would like to use the OEM's ID number, the marketing
company is allowed to use its name (marketing company name). However, the
name of the certificate holder (OEM), model number, and ID number must in an
user accessible location (such as battery compartment).
2. If a marketing company would like to use its own ID (not expose any
original manufacturer's information), a marketing company requests an
authorization letter from the OEM and file "multiple listing" with the IC.
On 10/9/08, KEVIN KEEGAN wrote:
Grace,
Don't forget that your client will require a Canadian representative to
hold
the certification and test reports in-case the product is audited.
Regards
Kevin Keegan
KES & Associates
From: Mark Briggs
Reply-To: Mark Briggs
To: "Grasso, Charles" ,
Grace Lin
, emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 08:35:54 -0700 (PDT)
Grace, Charles
My understanding is that model number and brand name on the
label need to
match the information related to the IC number that is detailed on Canada's
Radio Equipment List (REL) ... follow the link on the left side of Industry
Canada's wireless certification page ht
p://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/ceb-bhst.nsf/en/h_tt00010e.html
There are ways to get variants with a new model number with the
same brand
name (family listing) or different brand name (multiple listing) onto the REL
but these do require that an application be filed and, in the case of a
multiple listing, the new company have a Canadian Company Number.
Regards
Mark
- Original Message
From: "Grasso, Charles"
To: Grace Lin ; emc-p...@ieee.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 4:27:42 PM
Subject: RE: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada
Hi Grace,
I ran into this issue too! Although the
standard states very specifically that it must be
the manufacturers name etc on the label, you can – by going
through a
TCB, get the
label listed the way you describe.
Chas
From:emc-p...@ieee.org <mailto:from%3aemc-p...@ieee.org>
[mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace
Lin
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008
12:17 PM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Labeling Requirements per
Industry Canada
Dear Members,
Could someone please advise if a marketing company is able
to mark an Industry Canada
certified OEM product by using the manufacturer's (applicant's)
IC number
and the marketing company's name and model number?
I excerpt Section 5.2 of RSS-Gen below for your convenience.
If yes for the above question, is there any procedure
we or our OEM supplier has to follow (permissive change, etc.) ?
Thank you and look forward to hear from you.
Best regards,
Grace Lin
"
All
Category I radio equipment intended for use in Canada shall
permanently
display on
each transmitter, receiver, or inseparable combination thereof,
the
applicant's
name (i.e. manufacturer's name, trade name or brand name),
model number and
certification number. This information shall be affixed in such
a manner as
not
to be removable except by destruction or defacement. The size
of the
lettering
shall be legible without the aid of magnification but is not
required to be
larger than 8-point font size. If the device is too small to
meet this
condition, the information can be included in the user manual
upon
Re: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada
Grace, Don't forget that your client will require a Canadian representative to hold the certification and test reports in-case the product is audited. Regards Kevin Keegan KES & Associates >From: Mark Briggs >Reply-To: Mark Briggs >To: "Grasso, Charles" ,Grace Lin >, emc-p...@ieee.org >Subject: Re: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada >Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 08:35:54 -0700 (PDT) > >Grace, Charles > >My understanding is that model number and brand name on the label need to >match the information related to the IC number that is detailed on Canada's >Radio Equipment List (REL) ... follow the link on the left side of Industry >Canada's wireless certification page >http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/ceb-bhst.nsf/en/h_tt00010e.html > >There are ways to get variants with a new model number with the same brand >name (family listing) or different brand name (multiple listing) onto the >REL but these do require that an application be filed and, in the case of a >multiple listing, the new company have a Canadian Company Number. > >Regards > >Mark > > > >- Original Message >From: "Grasso, Charles" >To: Grace Lin ; emc-p...@ieee.org >Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 4:27:42 PM >Subject: RE: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada > > >Hi Grace, > >I ran into this issue too! Although the >standard states very specifically that it must be >the manufacturers name etc on the label, you can – by going through a >TCB, get the >label listed the way you describe. > >Chas > >____ > >From:emc-p...@ieee.org >[mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace >Lin >Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 >12:17 PM >To: emc-p...@ieee.org >Subject: Labeling Requirements per >Industry Canada > >Dear Members, > >Could someone please advise if a marketing company is able >to mark an Industry Canada >certified OEM product by using the manufacturer's (applicant's) IC number >and the marketing company's name and model number? > >I excerpt Section 5.2 of RSS-Gen below for your convenience. > >If yes for the above question, is there any procedure >we or our OEM supplier has to follow (permissive change, etc.) ? > >Thank you and look forward to hear from you. > >Best regards, >Grace Lin > >" >All >Category I radio equipment intended for use in Canada shall permanently >display on >each transmitter, receiver, or inseparable combination thereof, the >applicant's >name (i.e. manufacturer's name, trade name or brand name), model number and >certification number. This information shall be affixed in such a manner as >not >to be removable except by destruction or defacement. The size of the >lettering >shall be legible without the aid of magnification but is not required to be >larger than 8-point font size. If the device is too small to meet this >condition, the information can be included in the user manual upon >agreement >with Industry Canada . >The >label for medical implants which are designed to be used within the human >body, >can be placed on the package and user manual. >The >certification number is made up of a Company Number (CN) assigned by the >Bureau >followed by the Unique Product Number (UPN ), assigned by the >applicant. >The >certification number shall appear as follows: >"IC: >XX-YYY" >Where: > * "XX-YYY" is the certification number; > * "XX" is the Company Number (CN) assigned by Industry Canada , made >of at most 6 alphanumeric characters (A-Z, 0-9), including a letter at the >end of the CN to distinguish between different company addresses; > * "YYY" is the Unique Product Number (UPN ) assigned by the >applicant, made of at most 11 alphanumeric characters (A-Z, 0-9); and > * the letters "IC" have no other meaning or purpose than to identify the >Industry Canada certification number. >Permitted >alphanumerical characters used in the CN and UPN are limited to capital >letters (A-Z) and digits (0-9). An example of the new format for a company >having a CN of "21A" and wishing to use a UPN of "WILAN3" >would thus be: IC: 21A-WILAN3. Each equipment model shall be explicitly >identified. The use of characters, such as #, / or -, in the certification >number is not allowed. The use of "wild card" characters in the model >number (for the purpose of identifying multiple models with one name) is >not >allowed. >Equipment >that has received certification but is not labelled with the applicant's >name, >model numb
Re: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada
Grace, Charles My understanding is that model number and brand name on the label need to match the information related to the IC number that is detailed on Canada's Radio Equipment List (REL) ... follow the link on the left side of Industry Canada's wireless certification page ht p://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/ceb-bhst.nsf/en/h_tt00010e.html There are ways to get variants with a new model number with the same brand name (family listing) or different brand name (multiple listing) onto the REL but these do require that an application be filed and, in the case of a multiple listing, the new company have a Canadian Company Number. Regards Mark From: "Grasso, Charles" To: Grace Lin ; emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 4:27:42 PM Subject: RE: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada Hi Grace, I ran into this issue too! Although the standard states very specifically that it must be the manufacturers name etc on the label, you can – by going through a TCB, get the label listed the way you describe. Chas From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:17 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada Dear Members, Could someone please advise if a marketing company is able to mark an Industry Canada certified OEM product by using the manufacturer's (applicant's) IC number and the marketing company's name and model number? I excerpt Section 5.2 of RSS-Gen below for your convenience. If yes for the above question, is there any procedure we or our OEM supplier has to follow (permissive change, etc.) ? Thank you and look forward to hear from you. Best regards, Grace Lin " All Category I radio equipment intended for use in Canada shall permanently display on each transmitter, receiver, or inseparable combination thereof, the applicant's name (i.e. manufacturer's name, trade name or brand name), model number and certification number. This information shall be affixed in such a manner as not to be removable except by destruction or defacement. The size of the lettering shall be legible without the aid of magnification but is not required to be larger than 8-point font size. If the device is too small to meet this condition, the information can be included i n the user manual upon agreement with Industry Canada . The label for medical implants which are designed to be used within the human body, can be placed on the package and user manual. The certification number is made up of a Company Number (CN) assigned by the Bureau followed by the Unique Product Number (UPN ), assigned by the applicant. The certification number shall appear as follows: "IC: XX-YYY" Where: * "XX-YYY" is the certification number; * "XX" is the Company Number (CN) assigned by Industry Canada , made of at most 6 alphanumeric characters (A-Z, 0-9), including a letter at the end of the CN to distinguish between different company addresses; * "YYY" is the Unique Product Number (UPN ) assigned by the applicant, made of at most 11 alphanumeric characters (A-Z, 0-9); and * the letters "IC" have no other meaning or purpose than to identify the Industry Canada certification number. Permitted alphanumerical characters used in the CN and UPN are limited to capital letters (A-Z) and digits (0-9). An example of the new format for a company having a CN of "21A" and wishing to use a UPN of "WILAN3" would thus be: IC: 21A-WILAN3. Each equipment model shall be explicitly identified. The use of characters, such as #, / or -, in the certification number is not allowed. The use of "wild card" characters in the model number (for the purpose of identifying multiple models with one name) is not allowed. Equipment that has received certification but is not labelled with the applicant's name, model number and the certification number as outlined above is not considered certified. Category II equipment shall be labelled in accordance with the requirements of RSS -310. " - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/em
RE: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada
Hi Grace, I ran into this issue too! Although the standard states very specifically that it must be the manufacturers name etc on the label, you can – by going through a TCB, get the label listed the way you describe. Chas From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:17 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada Dear Members, Could someone please advise if a marketing company is able to mark an Industry Canada certified OEM product by using the manufacturer's (applicant's) IC number and the marketing company's name and model number? I excerpt Section 5.2 of RSS-Gen below for your convenience. If yes for the above question, is there any procedure we or our OEM supplier has to follow (permissive change, etc.) ? Thank you and look forward to hear from you. Best regards, Grace Lin " All Category I radio equipment intended for use in Canada shall permanently display on each transmitter, receiver, or inseparable combination thereof, the applicant's name (i.e. manufacturer's name, trade name or brand name), model number and certification number. This information shall be affixed in such a manner as not to be removable except by destruction or defacement. The size of the lettering shall be legible without the aid of magnification but is not required to be larger than 8-point font size. If the device is too small to meet this condition, the information can be included in the user manual upon agreement with Industry Canada. The label for medical implants which are designed to be used within the human body, can be placed on the package and user manual. The certification number is made up of a Company Number (CN) assigned by the Bureau followed by the Unique Product Number (UPN), assigned by the applicant. The certification number shall appear as follows: "IC: XX-YYY" Where: * "XX-YYY" is the certification number; * "XX" is the Company Number (CN) assigned by Industry Canada, made of at most 6 alphanumeric characters (A-Z, 0-9), including a letter at the end of the CN to distinguish between different company addresses; * "YYY" is the Unique Product Number (UPN) assigned by the applicant, made of at most 11 alphanumeric characters (A-Z, 0-9); and * the letters "IC" have no other meaning or purpose than to identify the Industry Canada certification number. Permitted alphanumerical characters used in the CN and UPN are limited to capital letters (A-Z) and digits (0-9). An example of the new format for a company having a CN of "21A" and wishing to use a UPN of "WILAN3" would thus be: IC: 21A-WILAN3. Each equipment model shall be explicitly identified. The use of characters, such as #, / or -, in the certification number is not allowed. The use of "wild card" characters in the model number (for the purpose of identifying multiple models with one name) is not allowed. Equipment that has received certification but is not labelled with the applicant's name, model number and the certification number as outlined above is not considered certified. Category II equipment shall be labelled in accordance with the requirements of RSS-310. " - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada
Dear Dennis and Others,
Thank you very much for your reply online and offline. I contacted Industry
Canada as suggested. IC refers to RSP-100 for an answer. I excerpt a section
below for your reference.
Best regards,
Grace
"
5.3 Multiple Listing
Multiple listing of a certified model is required when a manufacturer or
distributor wishes to list under its name and unique model number, certified
equipment of an original equipment manufacturer (OEM).
A model of equipment may be multiple-listed to other manufacturers or
distributors based upon the approval granted to the original applicant and
certificate holder.
In order to obtain a multiple-listing certification, the following
documentation must be submitted to the Bureau:
(a) the model number and certification number of the approved equipment;
(b) a signed letter from the original applicant and certificate holder
authorizing the Department to use information on file to grant a
multiple-listing certification. The name/model number and certification number
of the radio equipment must be shown. The letter must also declare that the
model to be multiple-listed is identical in design and construction to the
originally approved model;
(c) a letter, from the applicant, requesting the certification;
(d) completed and signed original copies of Appendix A and Appendix B;
(e) completed and signed copies of Appendix A and Appendix B of RSS-102 -
Radio Frequency Exposure Compliance of Radiocommunication Apparatus (All
Frequency Bands); and
(f) a drawing, sample or illustration of the product label.
"
On 9/9/08, dward wrote:
HI Grace
While it may be a desire of a marketing company to use their name, they
are
not the certificate holder and thus putting only the marketing companies name
on the device would be incorrect. The standard is pretty clear on this issue.
The "the applicant's name (i.e. manufacturer's name, trade name or brand
name), model number and certification number" are to be on the device label.
This however, does not mean that in addition to these the marketing companies
name cannot be on the device.
It should be remembered that the intent of the IC requirements is to
identify
the device and link it to the manufacturer/applicant and the model number and
IC number.
If a more specific interpretation from the IC is desired you may also
contact
certification.bur...@ic.gc.ca.
Thanks
Dennis Ward
Director of Engineering
American TCB
Certification Resource for the Wireless Industry www.atcb.com
<http://www.atcb.com/>
703-847-4700 fax 703-847-6888
direct - 703-880-4841
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace
Lin
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:17 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada
Dear Members,
Could someone please advise if a marketing company is able to mark an
Industry Canada certified OEM product by using the manufacturer's
(applicant's) IC number and the marketing company's name and model number?
I excerpt Section 5.2 of RSS-Gen below for your convenience.
If yes for the above question, is there any procedure we or our OEM
supplier
has to follow (permissive change, etc.) ?
Thank you and look forward to hear from you.
Best regards,
Grace Lin
"
All Category I radio equipment intended for use in Canada shall
permanently
display on each transmitter, receiver, or inseparable combination thereof, the
applicant's name (i.e. manufacturer's name, trade name or brand name), model
number and certification number. This information shall be affixed in such a
manner as not to be removable except by destruction or defacement. The size of
the lettering shall be legible without the aid of magnification but is not
required to be larger than 8-point font size. If the device is too small to
meet this condition, the information can be included in the user manual upon
agreement with Industry Canada.
The label for medical implants which are designed to be used within the
human
body, can be placed on the package and user manual.
The certification number is made up of a Company Number (CN) assigned
by the
Bureau followed by the Unique Product Number (UPN), assigned by the applicant.
The certification number shall appear as follows:
"IC: XX-YYY"
Where:
* "XX-YYY" is the certification number;
* "XX" is the Company Number (CN) assigned by Industry
Canada, made of at
most 6 alphanumeric
RE: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada
HI Grace While it may be a desire of a marketing company to use their name, they are not the certificate holder and thus putting only the marketing companies name on the device would be incorrect. The standard is pretty clear on this issue. The “the applicant's name (i.e. manufacturer's name, trade name or brand name), model number and certification number” are to be on the device label. This however, does not mean that in addition to these the marketing companies name cannot be on the device. It should be remembered that the intent of the IC requirements is to identify the device and link it to the manufacturer/applicant and the model number and IC number. If a more specific interpretation from the IC is desired you may also contact certification.bur...@ic.gc.ca. Thanks Dennis Ward Director of Engineering American TCB Certification Resource for the Wireless Industry www.atcb.com <http://www.atcb.com> 703-847-4700 fax 703-847-6888 direct - 703-880-4841 From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:17 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada Dear Members, Could someone please advise if a marketing company is able to mark an Industry Canada certified OEM product by using the manufacturer's (applicant's) IC number and the marketing company's name and model number? I excerpt Section 5.2 of RSS-Gen below for your convenience. If yes for the above question, is there any procedure we or our OEM supplier has to follow (permissive change, etc.) ? Thank you and look forward to hear from you. Best regards, Grace Lin " All Category I radio equipment intended for use in Canada shall permanently display on each transmitter, receiver, or inseparable combination thereof, the applicant's name (i.e. manufacturer's name, trade name or brand name), model number and certification number. This information shall be affixed in such a manner as not to be removable except by destruction or defacement. The size of the lettering shall be legible without the aid of magnification but is not required to be larger than 8-point font size. If the device is too small to meet this condition, the information can be included in the user manual upon agreement with Industry Canada. The label for medical implants which are designed to be used within the human body, can be placed on the package and user manual. The certification number is made up of a Company Number (CN) assigned by the Bureau followed by the Unique Product Number (UPN), assigned by the applicant. The certification number shall appear as follows: "IC: XX-YYY" Where: * "XX-YYY" is the certification number; * "XX" is the Company Number (CN) assigned by Industry Canada, made of at most 6 alphanumeric characters (A-Z, 0-9), including a letter at the end of the CN to distinguish between different company addresses; * "YYY" is the Unique Product Number (UPN) assigned by the applicant, made of at most 11 alphanumeric characters (A-Z, 0-9); and * the letters "IC" have no other meaning or purpose than to identify the Industry Canada certification number. Permitted alphanumerical characters used in the CN and UPN are limited to capital letters (A-Z) and digits (0-9). An example of the new format for a company having a CN of "21A" and wishing to use a UPN of "WILAN3" would thus be: IC: 21A-WILAN3. Each equipment model shall be explicitly identified. The use of characters, such as #, / or -, in the certification number is not allowed. The use of "wild card" characters in the model number (for the purpose of identifying multiple models with one name) is not allowed. Equipment that has received certification but is not labelled with the applicant's name, model number and the certification number as outlined above is not considered certified. Category II equipment shall be labelled in accordance with the requirements of RSS-310. " - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is
Labeling Requirements per Industry Canada
Dear Members, Could someone please advise if a marketing company is able to mark an Industry Canada certified OEM product by using the manufacturer's (applicant's) IC number and the marketing company's name and model number? I excerpt Section 5.2 of RSS-Gen below for your convenience. If yes for the above question, is there any procedure we or our OEM supplier has to follow (permissive change, etc.) ? Thank you and look forward to hear from you. Best regards, Grace Lin " All Category I radio equipment intended for use in Canada shall permanently display on each transmitter, receiver, or inseparable combination thereof, the applicant's name (i.e. manufacturer's name, trade name or brand name), model number and certification number. This information shall be affixed in such a manner as not to be removable except by destruction or defacement. The size of the lettering shall be legible without the aid of magnification but is not required to be larger than 8-point font size. If the device is too small to meet this condition, the information can be included in the user manual upon agreement with Industry Canada. The label for medical implants which are designed to be used within the human body, can be placed on the package and user manual. The certification number is made up of a Company Number (CN) assigned by the Bureau followed by the Unique Product Number (UPN), assigned by the applicant. The certification number shall appear as follows: "IC: XX-YYY" Where: * "XX-YYY" is the certification number; * "XX" is the Company Number (CN) assigned by Industry Canada, made of at most 6 alphanumeric characters (A-Z, 0-9), including a letter at the end of the CN to distinguish between different company addresses; * "YYY" is the Unique Product Number (UPN) assigned by the applicant, made of at most 11 alphanumeric characters (A-Z, 0-9); and * the letters "IC" have no other meaning or purpose than to identify the Industry Canada certification number. Permitted alphanumerical characters used in the CN and UPN are limited to capital letters (A-Z) and digits (0-9). An example of the new format for a company having a CN of "21A" and wishing to use a UPN of "WILAN3" would thus be: IC: 21A-WILAN3. Each equipment model shall be explicitly identified. The use of characters, such as #, / or -, in the certification number is not allowed. The use of "wild card" characters in the model number (for the purpose of identifying multiple models with one name) is not allowed. Equipment that has received certification but is not labelled with the applicant's name, model number and the certification number as outlined above is not considered certified. Category II equipment shall be labelled in accordance with the requirements of RSS-310. " - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
