Re: Compliance test configuration

2003-09-04 Thread GARY MCINTURFF
   Just a thought.
   Doubling the data lines from 32 to 64 doesn't necessarily mean that they
are being clocked any faster. I would assume they increase the word size, put
it on the buss  lines in parallel fashion and then clock that data down the
line at the same time, and at the same buss rate as before. It might be more
appropriate to consider these as additional I/O lines and follow those
guidelines - adding until less than a 2 dB increase. Considering that these
are data lines and not clock signals it seems unlikely that the data patterns
would match such that you would get coherent addition of the signals unless
you synchronize the data patterns which has, in my opinion little or nothing
to do with typical or real operation of the equipment.
If its easy to get the system with the 64 bit bus, you're way ahead to do
that because there is no question about it, and you address all of the
variables. If not document it in your test along with the rational but be
prepared to defend it if necessary, to then find a unit to test, and then
worry about field retrofit that test failed.
Engineering risk management. Note, I didn't say management risk management
I'm fairly certain I know that answer.
Gary

   
 
 
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Subject: RE: Compliance test configuration

Ajmani,
 
Yes that is correct, having the unit transmitting information at the highest
data rate is the goal.
 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:51 PM
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Subject: RE: Compliance test configuration



Hello Rachid, 

Thank you very much for your reply.  In this case, the EUT is the disk drive,
which is connected to SCSI Adapter through the SCSI interface.  The 64-bit
interface is strictly between the PC and the SCSI Adapter, and does not affect
the transfer rate between Adapter and the disk drive.  The only benefit of
using 64-bit interface is to sustain the data rate when connected to a large
number of disk drives.  I would assume that as long as I am transferring data
between Adapter and the disk drive at the maximum transfer rate, the type of
interface between Adapter and PC (both of which are already agency approved)
should not matter.

Regards, Ravinder
Server PCB and Flex Development
Hitachi Global Storage Technologies

Email: ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com








Rachid Sehb rs...@rheintech.com 


09/03/2003 05:34 PM 



To:'ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com' ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com 
cc: 
From:Rachid Sehb rs...@rheintech.com 
Subject:RE: Compliance test configuration 





Hello Ajmani, 
  
In most cases the standard would like the worst case to be tested, so my
advice would be to test the 64 bits. 
  
  

 

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mailto:rs...@rheintech.com 


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From: ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com [mailto:ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:08 PM
To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org'
Subject: Compliance test configuration


Hi EMC Experts, 


I want to test a U320 SCSI disk drive for agency compliance.  All the U320
SCSI Host Bus Adapters require 64-bit PCI slot, although they will also work
in the 32-bit slot. 


My question is do I have to use a PC with 64-bit PCI bus for my testing (these
PCs are hard to come by), or can I use a PC with 32-bit PCI bus. 


I

RE: Compliance test configuration

2003-09-04 Thread Rachid Sehb
Ajmani,
 
Yes that is correct, having the unit transmitting information at the highest
data rate is the goal.
 

 

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mailto:rs...@rheintech.com 

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From: ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com [mailto:ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:51 PM
To: Rachid Sehb
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: Compliance test configuration



Hello Rachid, 

Thank you very much for your reply.  In this case, the EUT is the disk drive,
which is connected to SCSI Adapter through the SCSI interface.  The 64-bit
interface is strictly between the PC and the SCSI Adapter, and does not affect
the transfer rate between Adapter and the disk drive.  The only benefit of
using 64-bit interface is to sustain the data rate when connected to a large
number of disk drives.  I would assume that as long as I am transferring data
between Adapter and the disk drive at the maximum transfer rate, the type of
interface between Adapter and PC (both of which are already agency approved)
should not matter.

Regards, Ravinder
Server PCB and Flex Development
Hitachi Global Storage Technologies

Email: ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com








Rachid Sehb rs...@rheintech.com 


09/03/2003 05:34 PM 



To:'ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com' ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com 
cc: 
From:Rachid Sehb rs...@rheintech.com 
Subject:RE: Compliance test configuration 





Hello Ajmani, 
  
In most cases the standard would like the worst case to be tested, so my
advice would be to test the 64 bits. 
  
  

 

Rachid Sehb   EMC engineer mailto:rs...@rheintech.com
mailto:rs...@rheintech.com 


Rhein Tech Laboratories, Inc.   http://www.rheintech.com/
http://www.rheintech.com 


Electro Magnetic Engineering and Testing,  Wireless Testing, Electrical Safety
Testing,  PCB and Hardware Design Engineering 


360 Herndon Parkway, Suite 1400, Herndon, VA 20170 


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From: ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com [mailto:ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:08 PM
To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org'
Subject: Compliance test configuration


Hi EMC Experts, 


I want to test a U320 SCSI disk drive for agency compliance.  All the U320
SCSI Host Bus Adapters require 64-bit PCI slot, although they will also work
in the 32-bit slot. 


My question is do I have to use a PC with 64-bit PCI bus for my testing (these
PCs are hard to come by), or can I use a PC with 32-bit PCI bus. 


I will appreciate your advice in helping me decide this.

Regards, Ravinder
Server PCB and Flex Development
Hitachi Global Storage Technologies

Email: ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com









RE: Compliance test configuration

2003-09-03 Thread ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com

Hello Rachid, 

Thank you very much for your reply.  In this case, the EUT is the disk drive,
which is connected to SCSI Adapter through the SCSI interface.  The 64-bit
interface is strictly between the PC and the SCSI Adapter, and does not affect
the transfer rate between Adapter and the disk drive.  The only benefit of
using 64-bit interface is to sustain the data rate when connected to a large
number of disk drives.  I would assume that as long as I am transferring data
between Adapter and the disk drive at the maximum transfer rate, the type of
interface between Adapter and PC (both of which are already agency approved)
should not matter.

Regards, Ravinder
Server PCB and Flex Development
Hitachi Global Storage Technologies

Email: ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com








Rachid Sehb rs...@rheintech.com 


09/03/2003 05:34 PM 

To:'ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com' ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com 
cc: 
From:Rachid Sehb rs...@rheintech.com 
Subject:RE: Compliance test configuration 






Hello Ajmani, 
  
In most cases the standard would like the worst case to be tested, so my
advice would be to test the 64 bits. 
  
  

 


Rachid Sehb   EMC engineer mailto:rs...@rheintech.com
mailto:rs...@rheintech.com 


Rhein Tech Laboratories, Inc.   http://www.rheintech.com/
http://www.rheintech.com 


Electro Magnetic Engineering and Testing,  Wireless Testing, Electrical Safety
Testing,  PCB and Hardware Design Engineering 


360 Herndon Parkway, Suite 1400, Herndon, VA 20170 


Tel: 703-689-0368 x127 ; Fax: 703-689-2056 


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From: ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com [mailto:ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:08 PM
To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org'
Subject: Compliance test configuration


Hi EMC Experts, 


I want to test a U320 SCSI disk drive for agency compliance.  All the U320
SCSI Host Bus Adapters require 64-bit PCI slot, although they will also work
in the 32-bit slot. 


My question is do I have to use a PC with 64-bit PCI bus for my testing (these
PCs are hard to come by), or can I use a PC with 32-bit PCI bus. 


I will appreciate your advice in helping me decide this.

Regards, Ravinder
Server PCB and Flex Development
Hitachi Global Storage Technologies

Email: ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com