Re ADS - RE: F-Squared Labs

2001-01-10 Thread K . Maclean 
Folks - 
 
By appending all messages, you have effectively helped this nice gentleman
send his message each time.   I am sure he appreciates it hugely...
 
Cheers,
Kate
Kathy M. MacLean
President, APREL Laboratories
-EMC-RF Safety-Antenna design/test-SAR/MPE-
-Environmental-Acoustics-Wireless-
51 Spectrum Way, Nepean, Ontario K2R 1E6
(613) 820-2730 fax (613) 820-4161 cell (613) 791-3777
Web site:   <http://www.aprel.com/> http://www.aprel.com - watch for our new
web site coming soon! 

www.spectrum-sciences.org <http://www.spectrum-sciences.org>  - in the top
100,000 sites according to Alexa 5.0!

 

-Original Message-
From: Naftali Shani [mailto:nsh...@catena.com]
Sent: January 10, 2001 9:24 AM
To: 'John Juhasz'; 'Russell, Ray'
Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org'
Subject: RE: F-Squared Labs


So it looks like the chap @ F-squared Labs got a hold of our e-mail
addresses, somehow, because I also received it and not through the IEEE
server.
 

Naftali Shani, Catena Networks (www.catena.com) 
307 Legget Drive 
Kanata, ON  K2K 3C8, Canada 
Voice: 613.599.6430, X.8277 Fax: 613.599.6433 
E-mail: nsh...@catena.com

RE: F-Squared Labs

2001-01-10 Thread Joe Finlayson 
 
Anyone can get a list of all email addresses on this forum by simply
requesting it.  I doubt that happened in this instance as I never received
the solicitation.

-Original Message-
From: Naftali Shani [mailto:nsh...@catena.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:24 AM
To: 'John Juhasz'; 'Russell, Ray'
Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org'
Subject: RE: F-Squared Labs


So it looks like the chap @ F-squared Labs got a hold of our e-mail
addresses, somehow, because I also received it and not through the IEEE
server.
 

Naftali Shani, Catena Networks (www.catena.com) 
307 Legget Drive 
Kanata, ON  K2K 3C8, Canada 
Voice: 613.599.6430, X.8277 Fax: 613.599.6433 
E-mail: nsh...@catena.com 

-Original Message-
From: John Juhasz [mailto:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 2:52 PM
To: 'Russell, Ray'
Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org'
Subject: RE: F-Squared Labs



Group, 

Please accept my apologies for posting a reply to a message that I had
thought (incorrectly 
'assumed') came via the emc-pstc listserv (I must've been seeing things -
that happens 
with age). 

John Juhasz 
Fiber Options 
Bohemia, NY 

-Original Message- 
From: Russell, Ray [ mailto:ray_russ...@gastmfg.com
<mailto:ray_russ...@gastmfg.com> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 2:41 PM 
To: 'John Juhasz' 
Subject: RE: F-Squared Labs 


John, 
  
I share your opinion that commercial advertisements should not be included 
on this newsgroup. So I am confused. I did not receive the mail from 
F-Squared labs, I only received it from you, via the IEEE newsgroup. 
  
Ray 

-Original Message- 
From: John Juhasz [ mailto:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com
<mailto:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:25 AM 
To: 'mna...@f2labs.com' 
Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' 
Subject: RE: F-Squared Labs 



Mark, 

This is my own opinion, but it may/may not be shared by others here . . . 
While I personally welcome posts from anyone who offers sound regulatory 
information, especially those from laboratories (we have a few regular 
contributors 
who are lab managers), everyone here has been good at policing themselves 
from 
posting commercial advertisement. 

Please feel free to comment and interject into this forum. We would 
welcome your expertise . . . 

Regards, 

John Juhasz 
Fiber Options 
Bohemia 



-Original Message- 
From: Mark naber [ mailto:mna...@f2labs.com <mailto:mna...@f2labs.com>  <
mailto:mna...@f2labs.com <mailto:mna...@f2labs.com> > ] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:21 AM 
To: jjuh...@fiberoptions.com 
Subject: F-Squared Labs 


Who? F-Squared Laboratories? 

F-Squared Laboratories can test and certify a product that you manufacture 
or brand label if it... 

·   is electrically-powered, 
·   is considered a "hardware" product, or, 
·   is a mechanical, process control, or medical device, or a laboratory


instrument. 

We can get your products into one or more of the US, Canadian, European 
and/or International Markets, via FCC/CISPR, Product Safety, EMC/EMI, 
Environmental or Hazardous Location testing. 

On a regular basis we test and certify products to countless US and Canadian


Standards, and various European Union Directives and International Standards


and Country Deviations, so that you can obtain applicable approvals or 
certifications for; 

·   NRTL for North America, to include field-labeling, 
·   EMC for North America, the European Union and International markets 
·   Industrie Canada, equivalent to FCC Pt. 15 testing in the US, 
·   FCC - Declaration of Conformity, Verification or Certification, 
·   HAZ-LOC (Hazardous-Location) for the US & Canada, 
·   Ex Marking and ATEX Directive for International Markets, 
·   CE Marking (LV, EMC & Mechanical Dir.) for the European Union (EU), 
·   CB Scheme for 30+ countries, which includes Asia and Australia, and,


·   IEC for other International Markets. 

Our website www.f2labs.com < http://www.f2labs.com <http://www.f2labs.com>
< http://www.f2labs.com <http://www.f2labs.com> > > 
speaks about our 
capabilities in an introductory manner. Of course detailed literature is 
always available upon request. 

Please give us an opportunity to provide you with a competitive bid for your


next project. Our quick turnaround service is as attractive as our pricing! 
Call me directly at 301.368.2590, or contact me via email at 
mna...@f2labs.com < mailto:mna...@f2labs.com <mailto:mna...@f2labs.com>  <
mailto:mna...@f2labs.com <mailto:mna...@f2labs.com> > >. 

Lastly, feel free to print this out for your files, and also forward to 
others!! 

Cordially, 



Mark W. Naber

RE: F-Squared Labs

2001-01-10 Thread Naftali Shani 
So it looks like the chap @ F-squared Labs got a hold of our e-mail
addresses, somehow, because I also received it and not through the IEEE
server.
 

Naftali Shani, Catena Networks (www.catena.com) 
307 Legget Drive 
Kanata, ON  K2K 3C8, Canada 
Voice: 613.599.6430, X.8277 Fax: 613.599.6433 
E-mail: nsh...@catena.com 

-Original Message-
From: John Juhasz [mailto:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 2:52 PM
To: 'Russell, Ray'
Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org'
Subject: RE: F-Squared Labs



Group, 

Please accept my apologies for posting a reply to a message that I had
thought (incorrectly 
'assumed') came via the emc-pstc listserv (I must've been seeing things -
that happens 
with age). 

John Juhasz 
Fiber Options 
Bohemia, NY 

-Original Message- 
From: Russell, Ray [ mailto:ray_russ...@gastmfg.com
<mailto:ray_russ...@gastmfg.com> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 2:41 PM 
To: 'John Juhasz' 
Subject: RE: F-Squared Labs 


John, 
  
I share your opinion that commercial advertisements should not be included 
on this newsgroup. So I am confused. I did not receive the mail from 
F-Squared labs, I only received it from you, via the IEEE newsgroup. 
  
Ray 

-Original Message- 
From: John Juhasz [ mailto:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com
<mailto:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:25 AM 
To: 'mna...@f2labs.com' 
Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' 
Subject: RE: F-Squared Labs 



Mark, 

This is my own opinion, but it may/may not be shared by others here . . . 
While I personally welcome posts from anyone who offers sound regulatory 
information, especially those from laboratories (we have a few regular 
contributors 
who are lab managers), everyone here has been good at policing themselves 
from 
posting commercial advertisement. 

Please feel free to comment and interject into this forum. We would 
welcome your expertise . . . 

Regards, 

John Juhasz 
Fiber Options 
Bohemia 



-Original Message- 
From: Mark naber [ mailto:mna...@f2labs.com <mailto:mna...@f2labs.com>  <
mailto:mna...@f2labs.com <mailto:mna...@f2labs.com> > ] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:21 AM 
To: jjuh...@fiberoptions.com 
Subject: F-Squared Labs 


Who? F-Squared Laboratories? 

F-Squared Laboratories can test and certify a product that you manufacture 
or brand label if it... 

·   is electrically-powered, 
·   is considered a "hardware" product, or, 
·   is a mechanical, process control, or medical device, or a laboratory


instrument. 

We can get your products into one or more of the US, Canadian, European 
and/or International Markets, via FCC/CISPR, Product Safety, EMC/EMI, 
Environmental or Hazardous Location testing. 

On a regular basis we test and certify products to countless US and Canadian


Standards, and various European Union Directives and International Standards


and Country Deviations, so that you can obtain applicable approvals or 
certifications for; 

·   NRTL for North America, to include field-labeling, 
·   EMC for North America, the European Union and International markets 
·   Industrie Canada, equivalent to FCC Pt. 15 testing in the US, 
·   FCC - Declaration of Conformity, Verification or Certification, 
·   HAZ-LOC (Hazardous-Location) for the US & Canada, 
·   Ex Marking and ATEX Directive for International Markets, 
·   CE Marking (LV, EMC & Mechanical Dir.) for the European Union (EU), 
·   CB Scheme for 30+ countries, which includes Asia and Australia, and,


·   IEC for other International Markets. 

Our website www.f2labs.com < http://www.f2labs.com <http://www.f2labs.com>
< http://www.f2labs.com <http://www.f2labs.com> > > 
speaks about our 
capabilities in an introductory manner. Of course detailed literature is 
always available upon request. 

Please give us an opportunity to provide you with a competitive bid for your


next project. Our quick turnaround service is as attractive as our pricing! 
Call me directly at 301.368.2590, or contact me via email at 
mna...@f2labs.com < mailto:mna...@f2labs.com <mailto:mna...@f2labs.com>  <
mailto:mna...@f2labs.com <mailto:mna...@f2labs.com> > >. 

Lastly, feel free to print this out for your files, and also forward to 
others!! 

Cordially, 



Mark W. Naber

RE: F-Squared Labs

2001-01-09 Thread John Juhasz 
Group,

Please accept my apologies for posting a reply to a message that I had
thought (incorrectly
'assumed') came via the emc-pstc listserv (I must've been seeing things -
that happens
with age).

John Juhasz
Fiber Options
Bohemia, NY

-Original Message-
From: Russell, Ray [mailto:ray_russ...@gastmfg.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 2:41 PM
To: 'John Juhasz'
Subject: RE: F-Squared Labs


John,
 
I share your opinion that commercial advertisements should not be included
on this newsgroup. So I am confused. I did not receive the mail from
F-Squared labs, I only received it from you, via the IEEE newsgroup.
 
Ray

-Original Message-
From: John Juhasz [mailto:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:25 AM
To: 'mna...@f2labs.com'
Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org'
Subject: RE: F-Squared Labs



Mark, 

This is my own opinion, but it may/may not be shared by others here . . . 
While I personally welcome posts from anyone who offers sound regulatory 
information, especially those from laboratories (we have a few regular
contributors 
who are lab managers), everyone here has been good at policing themselves
from 
posting commercial advertisement. 

Please feel free to comment and interject into this forum. We would 
welcome your expertise . . . 

Regards, 

John Juhasz 
Fiber Options 
Bohemia 



-Original Message- 
From: Mark naber [ mailto:mna...@f2labs.com <mailto:mna...@f2labs.com> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:21 AM 
To: jjuh...@fiberoptions.com 
Subject: F-Squared Labs 


Who? F-Squared Laboratories? 

F-Squared Laboratories can test and certify a product that you manufacture 
or brand label if it... 

·   is electrically-powered, 
·   is considered a "hardware" product, or, 
·   is a mechanical, process control, or medical device, or a laboratory

instrument. 

We can get your products into one or more of the US, Canadian, European 
and/or International Markets, via FCC/CISPR, Product Safety, EMC/EMI, 
Environmental or Hazardous Location testing. 

On a regular basis we test and certify products to countless US and Canadian

Standards, and various European Union Directives and International Standards

and Country Deviations, so that you can obtain applicable approvals or 
certifications for; 

·   NRTL for North America, to include field-labeling, 
·   EMC for North America, the European Union and International markets 
·   Industrie Canada, equivalent to FCC Pt. 15 testing in the US, 
·   FCC - Declaration of Conformity, Verification or Certification, 
·   HAZ-LOC (Hazardous-Location) for the US & Canada, 
·   Ex Marking and ATEX Directive for International Markets, 
·   CE Marking (LV, EMC & Mechanical Dir.) for the European Union (EU), 
·   CB Scheme for 30+ countries, which includes Asia and Australia, and,

·   IEC for other International Markets. 

Our website www.f2labs.com < http://www.f2labs.com <http://www.f2labs.com> >
speaks about our 
capabilities in an introductory manner. Of course detailed literature is 
always available upon request. 

Please give us an opportunity to provide you with a competitive bid for your

next project. Our quick turnaround service is as attractive as our pricing! 
Call me directly at 301.368.2590, or contact me via email at 
mna...@f2labs.com < mailto:mna...@f2labs.com <mailto:mna...@f2labs.com> >. 

Lastly, feel free to print this out for your files, and also forward to 
others!! 

Cordially, 



Mark W. Naber

RE: F-Squared Labs

2001-01-09 Thread Matsuda, Ken 

Word of caution to about some labs, (not specifically pointing out a lab) 
 
Choosing a test house or a lab to certify a product can me a costly and
timely endeavor.  Coming from a previous position at a Regulatory agency, I
would like to first off say "be careful" when choosing a agency to certify
your product within the U.S., for that matter the world.  Although a lab may
have NRTL status, they may NOT be accredited for particular standards.  In
fact, some NRTLs are only accredited for 2 or 3 standards, and a listing by
them does little if anything if they certify products that are not within
the scope of their accreditation.  You can check NRTL accreditations at the
OSHA.gov webpage.  I'm sure this may be true with other certifications.
>From my experience, some test agencies may just be a middle man for
submittal to larger NRTLs.  
 
Those opinions expressed in this email are the opinions of the individual,
and not necessarily the company's.  
 
 
 
Regards,
 
Ken Matsuda

-Original Message-
From: John Juhasz [mailto:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:25 AM
To: 'mna...@f2labs.com'
Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org'
Subject: RE: F-Squared Labs



Mark, 

This is my own opinion, but it may/may not be shared by others here . . . 
While I personally welcome posts from anyone who offers sound regulatory 
information, especially those from laboratories (we have a few regular
contributors 
who are lab managers), everyone here has been good at policing themselves
from 
posting commercial advertisement. 

Please feel free to comment and interject into this forum. We would 
welcome your expertise . . . 

Regards, 

John Juhasz 
Fiber Options 
Bohemia 



-Original Message- 
From: Mark naber [ mailto:mna...@f2labs.com <mailto:mna...@f2labs.com> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:21 AM 
To: jjuh...@fiberoptions.com 
Subject: F-Squared Labs 


Who? F-Squared Laboratories? 

F-Squared Laboratories can test and certify a product that you manufacture 
or brand label if it... 

·   is electrically-powered, 
·   is considered a "hardware" product, or, 
·   is a mechanical, process control, or medical device, or a laboratory

instrument. 

We can get your products into one or more of the US, Canadian, European 
and/or International Markets, via FCC/CISPR, Product Safety, EMC/EMI, 
Environmental or Hazardous Location testing. 

On a regular basis we test and certify products to countless US and Canadian

Standards, and various European Union Directives and International Standards

and Country Deviations, so that you can obtain applicable approvals or 
certifications for; 

·   NRTL for North America, to include field-labeling, 
·   EMC for North America, the European Union and International markets 
·   Industrie Canada, equivalent to FCC Pt. 15 testing in the US, 
·   FCC - Declaration of Conformity, Verification or Certification, 
·   HAZ-LOC (Hazardous-Location) for the US & Canada, 
·   Ex Marking and ATEX Directive for International Markets, 
·   CE Marking (LV, EMC & Mechanical Dir.) for the European Union (EU), 
·   CB Scheme for 30+ countries, which includes Asia and Australia, and,

·   IEC for other International Markets. 

Our website www.f2labs.com < http://www.f2labs.com <http://www.f2labs.com> >
speaks about our 
capabilities in an introductory manner. Of course detailed literature is 
always available upon request. 

Please give us an opportunity to provide you with a competitive bid for your

next project. Our quick turnaround service is as attractive as our pricing! 
Call me directly at 301.368.2590, or contact me via email at 
mna...@f2labs.com < mailto:mna...@f2labs.com <mailto:mna...@f2labs.com> >. 

Lastly, feel free to print this out for your files, and also forward to 
others!! 

Cordially, 



Mark W. Naber 


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RE: F-Squared Labs

2001-01-09 Thread John Juhasz 
Mark,

This is my own opinion, but it may/may not be shared by others here . . . 
While I personally welcome posts from anyone who offers sound regulatory 
information, especially those from laboratories (we have a few regular
contributors
who are lab managers), everyone here has been good at policing themselves
from
posting commercial advertisement. 

Please feel free to comment and interject into this forum. We would
welcome your expertise . . . 

Regards,

John Juhasz
Fiber Options
Bohemia



-Original Message-
From: Mark naber [mailto:mna...@f2labs.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:21 AM
To: jjuh...@fiberoptions.com
Subject: F-Squared Labs


Who? F-Squared Laboratories?

F-Squared Laboratories can test and certify a product that you manufacture
or brand label if it...

·   is electrically-powered,
·   is considered a "hardware" product, or,
·   is a mechanical, process control, or medical device, or a laboratory
instrument.

We can get your products into one or more of the US, Canadian, European
and/or International Markets, via FCC/CISPR, Product Safety, EMC/EMI,
Environmental or Hazardous Location testing.

On a regular basis we test and certify products to countless US and Canadian
Standards, and various European Union Directives and International Standards
and Country Deviations, so that you can obtain applicable approvals or
certifications for;

·   NRTL for North America, to include field-labeling,
·   EMC for North America, the European Union and International markets
·   Industrie Canada, equivalent to FCC Pt. 15 testing in the US,
·   FCC - Declaration of Conformity, Verification or Certification,
·   HAZ-LOC (Hazardous-Location) for the US & Canada,
·   Ex Marking and ATEX Directive for International Markets,
·   CE Marking (LV, EMC & Mechanical Dir.) for the European Union (EU),
·   CB Scheme for 30+ countries, which includes Asia and Australia, and,
·   IEC for other International Markets.

Our website www.f2labs.com  speaks about our
capabilities in an introductory manner. Of course detailed literature is
always available upon request.

Please give us an opportunity to provide you with a competitive bid for your
next project. Our quick turnaround service is as attractive as our pricing!
Call me directly at 301.368.2590, or contact me via email at
mna...@f2labs.com .

Lastly, feel free to print this out for your files, and also forward to
others!!

Cordially,



Mark W. Naber