RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
Gary, I don't remember, but the other post stating that the band is only a few KHz sounds about right. Josh From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:56 PM To: Joshua Wiseman; drcuthbert; Kurt Fischer; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz What are the 3 and 6 db points of the 121.5 Mhz skirts? The original note was 121 Mhz. How wide is the satellite link? Shouldn't the be exclusive? Gary N,j^ AȞ#ۜ&zܓygƥ ^y霦\v+"ybb+hnȭya0{by種ޙ?\:jw*.˛بǧvf&j:+v瞢0m" ^){.n+lhǧvf-b֝)ڶFωצr-rz(& u֯z֭ah%̪-ݙbrtۭzxy+!zi^'z! p{{^+bwWr-r,)౪j!jwly܅zma0rx(ޙl
RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
Kurt: I am a pilot and fly in the SF Bay often. In fact, I fly out of Palo Alto. I finally got a chance to pull out my charts. Although you are located a couple of miles >from the west end of the Livermore (LVK) airport runway 25 L / R, there does >not appear to be any close tower or CTAF frequency in the area. However, BAY Approach does use 120.9 MHz for aircraft approaching from the NW (over Marin). The modulation would be AM with plenty of power. That is the closest frequency in use in the area. It would appear to be intermittant since the communication is not continious, but on an as needed basis. I suggest that you get a scanner or (good) spectrum analyzer and see if you can determine the "exact" frequency and modulation, if any. John Shinn, P.E. Manager, Lab Operations Sanmina-SCI john.sh...@sanmina-sci.com From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Kurt Fischer Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:03 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Real product interference source at 121 MHz Hello all, A strange request but this has become an interference issue with a sattelite communications link There seems to be a very strong interferer at 121 MHz that is intermittent in nature and physically located in Northern USA/Canada. It could be the marketing of a non-compliant consumer products or perhaps some after market sattelite rec. retro-fit kit?? Has anyone else had this experience in the last year --- (the problem was not present 2 years ago)? It does appear to getting worse and is spreading geographically as well. Regards, Kurt Fischer Hyper Corp ?+&z?~?&A0$r' v -I?$r qBi?zg \v+"?yb ? y" m { l ??qr ?*m ?j:+v?'{ +^?) b ? ms lhn [hZvh?kj +h -sr ??o?`? jWu w rh'2 *' [h 6^ y `Zr ?i ^y
Re: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
Seems if the interference really is 121.0 MHz, I doubt that one would see the narrow band signals from 121.5. Aircraft comms are AM and on the order of 5 or 6kHz wide, so it's much more likely the interference is from a Tower or Approach frequency used somewhere in the northeast. (As I said earlier, Austin TX uses 121.0 as a tower frequency and it's likely there are other towers on the same frequency somewhere in the country or in Canada.) Mike Hopkins michael.hopk...@thermo.com From: "Gary McInturff" To: "Joshua Wiseman" ; "drcuthbert" ; "Kurt Fischer" ; Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz > What are the 3 and 6 db points of the 121.5 Mhz skirts? The original note was 121 Mhz. How wide is the satellite link? Shouldn't the be exclusive? > Gary > > -Original Message- > From: Joshua Wiseman [mailto:jwise...@printronix.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:22 AM > To: drcuthbert; Kurt Fischer; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subject: RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz > > > Kurt, > > In my Air Traffic radio repair days I became intimately familiar with 121.5 and 243 MHz. These are the emergency frequencies used N. America. They are used for locating both the plane and pilot in the event of an emergency. They are also used by pilots when they have lost their bearings and need help getting to their destination among other things. > > This frequency has added power when transmitter from the ground so that it can be heard at a greater distance. > > Good Luck, > Josh > > -Original Message- > From: drcuthbert [mailto:drcuthb...@micron.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:32 AM > To: 'Kurt Fischer'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subject: RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz > > > > Kurt, > this could be aviation communications. AM voice is centered at about 121 > MHz. > >Dave > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Fischer [mailto:kurt.fisc...@hyperinterop.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:03 AM > To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subject: Real product interference source at 121 MHz > > > Hello all, > > A strange request but this has become an interference issue with a sattelite > communications link There seems to be a very strong interferer at 121 MHz > that is intermittent in nature and physically located in Northern > USA/Canada. > > It could be the marketing of a non-compliant consumer products or perhaps > some after market sattelite rec. retro-fit kit?? > > Has anyone else had this experience in the last year --- (the problem was > not present 2 years ago)? > It does appear to getting worse and is spreading geographically as well. > > Regards, > Kurt Fischer > Hyper Corp > N,jࢱ^ AȞ#ˡ&zܓyg ƥ > ^y\v+:""ybb2+hnȭya 0{by種̡ޙ?&\:jw*.˛ > بǧvf&j:+v 瞢0m" ^){.n+ l5h.ǧvf-b2)²ڶF -צr-rz(& > +u֯z֭ah%̪-ʉ̱ݙbrtۭzxy+!zi^'z! > ⱷ p{ॕǢ{^+bwWr-r,)౪j7!jwly*z ma6 0r x(l > > --- > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety > Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > > Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ > > To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org > with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com > Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org > > Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc > Nj zy > yvny{yᙦjvjvnvFω᭭צr-rz(& > ૫猀u֯z֭ah%̪-銉̱ݙbrtۭzxy+耘!zi退^'z!ʊ�� p{奕Ǣ{^ޞ+bwWr-r,)౪j!jwlyzɉmaබ䵌 0rɉx(Øl > N,jࢱ^ AȞ#ˡ&zܓyg ƥ > ^y\v+:""ybb2+hnȭya 0{by種̡ޙ?&\:jw*.˛ > بǧvf&j:+v 瞢0m" ^){.n+ l5h.ǧvf-b2)²ڶF -צr-rz(& > +u֯z֭ah%̪-ʉ̱ݙbrtۭzxy+!zi^'z! > ⱷ p{ॕǢ{^+bwWr-r,)౪j7!jwly*z ma6 0r x(l > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
What are the 3 and 6 db points of the 121.5 Mhz skirts? The original note was 121 Mhz. How wide is the satellite link? Shouldn't the be exclusive? Gary From: Joshua Wiseman [mailto:jwise...@printronix.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:22 AM To: drcuthbert; Kurt Fischer; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz Kurt, In my Air Traffic radio repair days I became intimately familiar with 121.5 and 243 MHz. These are the emergency frequencies used N. America. They are used for locating both the plane and pilot in the event of an emergency. They are also used by pilots when they have lost their bearings and need help getting to their destination among other things. This frequency has added power when transmitter from the ground so that it can be heard at a greater distance. Good Luck, Josh From: drcuthbert [mailto:drcuthb...@micron.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:32 AM To: 'Kurt Fischer'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz Kurt, this could be aviation communications. AM voice is centered at about 121 MHz. Dave From: Kurt Fischer [mailto:kurt.fisc...@hyperinterop.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:03 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Real product interference source at 121 MHz Hello all, A strange request but this has become an interference issue with a sattelite communications link There seems to be a very strong interferer at 121 MHz that is intermittent in nature and physically located in Northern USA/Canada. It could be the marketing of a non-compliant consumer products or perhaps some after market sattelite rec. retro-fit kit?? Has anyone else had this experience in the last year --- (the problem was not present 2 years ago)? It does appear to getting worse and is spreading geographically as well. Regards, Kurt Fischer Hyper Corp N,jࢱ^ AȞ#ˡ&zܓygƥ ^y\v+:""ybb2+hnȭya0{by種̡ޙ?&\:jw*.˛ بǧvf&j:+v 瞢0m" ^){.n+l5h.ǧvf-b2)²ڶF-צr-rz(& +u֯z֭ah%̪-ʉ̱ݙbrtۭzxy+!zi^'z! ⱷ p{ॕǢ{^+bwWr-r,)౪j7!jwly*zma60rx(l This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Nj zy yvny{yᙦjvjvnvFω᭭צr-rz(& ૫猀u֯z֭ah%̪-銉̱ݙbrtۭzxy+耘!zi退^'z!ʊ�� p{奕Ǣ{^ޞ+bwWr-r,)౪j!jwlyzɉmaබ䵌 0rɉx(Øl N,j^ AȞ#ۜ&zܓygƥ ^y霦\v+"ybb+hnȭya0{by種ޙ?\:jw*.˛بǧvf&j:+v瞢0m" ^){.n+lhǧvf-b֝)ڶFωצr-rz(& u֯z֭ah%̪-ݙbrtۭzxy+!zi^'z! p{{^+bwWr-r,)౪j!jwly܅zma0rx(ޙl
RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
Kurt, In my Air Traffic radio repair days I became intimately familiar with 121.5 and 243 MHz. These are the emergency frequencies used N. America. They are used for locating both the plane and pilot in the event of an emergency. They are also used by pilots when they have lost their bearings and need help getting to their destination among other things. This frequency has added power when transmitter from the ground so that it can be heard at a greater distance. Good Luck, Josh From: drcuthbert [mailto:drcuthb...@micron.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:32 AM To: 'Kurt Fischer'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz Kurt, this could be aviation communications. AM voice is centered at about 121 MHz. Dave From: Kurt Fischer [mailto:kurt.fisc...@hyperinterop.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:03 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Real product interference source at 121 MHz Hello all, A strange request but this has become an interference issue with a sattelite communications link There seems to be a very strong interferer at 121 MHz that is intermittent in nature and physically located in Northern USA/Canada. It could be the marketing of a non-compliant consumer products or perhaps some after market sattelite rec. retro-fit kit?? Has anyone else had this experience in the last year --- (the problem was not present 2 years ago)? It does appear to getting worse and is spreading geographically as well. Regards, Kurt Fischer Hyper Corp N,jࢱ^ AȞ#ˡ&zܓygƥ ^y\v+:""ybb2+hnȭya0{by種̡ޙ?&\:jw*.˛ بǧvf&j:+v 瞢0m" ^){.n+l5h.ǧvf-b2)²ڶF-צr-rz(& +u֯z֭ah%̪-ʉ̱ݙbrtۭzxy+!zi^'z! ⱷ p{ॕǢ{^+bwWr-r,)౪j7!jwly*zma60rx(l This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc N,j^ AȞ#ۜ&zܓygƥ ^y霦\v+"ybb+hnȭya0{by種ޙ?\:jw*.˛بǧvf&j:+v瞢0m" ^){.n+lhǧvf-b֝)ڶFωצr-rz(& u֯z֭ah%̪-ݙbrtۭzxy+!zi^'z! p{{^+bwWr-r,)౪j!jwly܅zma0rx(ޙl
RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
I saw a tv clip on "grey-market" modifications to satellite receivers in southern Ontario and Quebec allegedly causing interference, they used a 4.5MHz clock. Best regards, David. David Gelfand Approvals/Design Engineer Memotec Inc. Tel: 514 738 4781 x4151 Fax: 514 738 4436 david.gelf...@memotec.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. 121.5 MHz is the emergency com channel and the ELT alert channel for aviation. Might be bleed over? Michael Sundstrom NOKIA TCC Dallas / EMC of: (972) 374-1462 cell: (817) 917-5021 amateur call: KB5UKT --- Begin Message --- This attachment, originally named Message Text, was removed because it is zero length. --- End Message ---
Re: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
121.0 is used by Aircraft and ATC -- I do know it's a tower frequency in Austin Texas and probably in other locations as well... Best Regards, Mike Hopkins From: "Kurt Fischer" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:02 AM Subject: Real product interference source at 121 MHz > Hello all, > > A strange request but this has become an interference issue with a sattelite communications link There seems to be a very strong interferer at 121 MHz that is intermittent in nature and physically located in Northern USA/Canada. > > It could be the marketing of a non-compliant consumer products or perhaps some after market sattelite rec. retro-fit kit?? > > Has anyone else had this experience in the last year --- (the problem was not present 2 years ago)? > It does appear to getting worse and is spreading geographically as well. > > Regards, > Kurt Fischer > Hyper Corp > N,j袱^ AȞ#ˡ&zܓyg뤉ƥ > ^y\v+㱺"ﬢybb竲+hnȭya 0{by種̡ޙ?㗦\훪:jw*.˛ > بǧvf&j:+v楉瞢0m㠅" ^綖){.n+缉lꊵh㷮ǧvf-㫅b붲)²ڶF㮉렭צr-rz(& > 㱫u֯z֭ah%̪-銉̱ݙbrtۭzxy+!ziﳠ^'z!笊ⱷ p{Ǣ{^㉞+bwWr-r,)౪j鹷!jwlyꎪz椉maꊶﳠ 0r綉x(l > This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
Kurt, Can you be more precise? Is it really 121.000 MHz? There are a number of low-power, possibly even individually compliant, digital sources which could be heard around 121 MHz; knowing the exact frequency would allow pinning it down to one of several clock frequencies, if it is such a source. Please reply in ASCII format. Thanks, Cortland Kurt Fischer [SMTP:kurt.fisc...@hyperinterop.com] wrote > -Original Message- > A strange request but this has become an interference issue with a > sattelite communications link There seems to be a very strong interferer > at 121 MHz that is intermittent in nature and physically located in > Northern USA/Canada. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
I recall that the FCC found a problem in this frequency range in the Northwest a few years ago that was related to powerlines. Of course, a directional antenna, spectrum analyzer, and a van would be useful... From: Kurt Fischer [mailto:kurt.fisc...@hyperinterop.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:03 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Real product interference source at 121 MHz Hello all, A strange request but this has become an interference issue with a sattelite communications link There seems to be a very strong interferer at 121 MHz that is intermittent in nature and physically located in Northern USA/Canada. It could be the marketing of a non-compliant consumer products or perhaps some after market sattelite rec. retro-fit kit?? Has anyone else had this experience in the last year --- (the problem was not present 2 years ago)? It does appear to getting worse and is spreading geographically as well. Regards, Kurt Fischer Hyper Corp N,j^ AȞ#ۜ&zܓygƥ ^y霦\v+"ybb+hnȭya0{by種ޙ?\:jw*.˛بǧvf&j:+v瞢0m" ^){.n+lhǧvf-b֝)ڶFωצr-rz(& u֯z֭ah%̪-ݙbrtۭzxy+!zi^'z! p{{^+bwWr-r,)౪j!jwly܅zma0rx(ޙl This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
Hi, You might want to poll some of the FCC Open Air Test Sites (OATS) in the area and see if they have noticed it as a new ambient. Using multiple site data, you might be able locate where the emitter is and when it started to become a problem. Your results might be very surprising. Philip Ross Wellington Mgr. Signal Integrity & EMI L-3 Communications CSW From: Kurt Fischer [mailto:kurt.fisc...@hyperinterop.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:03 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Real product interference source at 121 MHz Hello all, A strange request but this has become an interference issue with a sattelite communications link There seems to be a very strong interferer at 121 MHz that is intermittent in nature and physically located in Northern USA/Canada. It could be the marketing of a non-compliant consumer products or perhaps some after market sattelite rec. retro-fit kit?? Has anyone else had this experience in the last year --- (the problem was not present 2 years ago)? It does appear to getting worse and is spreading geographically as well. Regards, Kurt Fischer Hyper Corp N,j^ A⁐Ȟ#ˡ&zܓygࠉƥ ^y瑴\v+鲺"쮢ybb荲+hnȭya⁴0{by種̡ޙ?鲦\挮:jw*.˛ بǧvf&j:+vࠉ瞢0mᴅ" ^崖){.n+奉l荵hᲮǧvf-ࠅb鰲)²ڶF饭צr-rz(& 龫繾u֯z֭ah%̪-̱ݙbrtۭzxy+!zi繾^'z!驊ⱷ p{⥕Ǣ{^쯞+bw驀Wr-r,)౪j龷!jwly龪z龉ma龶繾0r龉x(繾l This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
121 MHz is an aviation voice communication band, in fact, 121.5 MHz is the international emergency frequency. Doesn't sound like something that would go unnoticed for very long. Good Luck, Ed From: Kurt Fischer [mailto:kurt.fisc...@hyperinterop.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:03 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Real product interference source at 121 MHz Hello all, A strange request but this has become an interference issue with a sattelite communications link There seems to be a very strong interferer at 121 MHz that is intermittent in nature and physically located in Northern USA/Canada. It could be the marketing of a non-compliant consumer products or perhaps some after market sattelite rec. retro-fit kit?? Has anyone else had this experience in the last year --- (the problem was not present 2 years ago)? It does appear to getting worse and is spreading geographically as well. Regards, Kurt Fischer Hyper Corp N,jࢱ^ A㘸Ȟ#ˡ&zܓyg༉ƥ ^y汬\v+鮺"ybb鄲+hnȭya睷0{by種̡ޙ?᪦\扺:jw*.˛ بǧvf&j:+v岉瞢0m䱅" ^䱖){.n+༉lᎵh鄮ǧvf-咅b䬲)²ڶF䱉퓭צr-rz(& ᔫ⼲u֯z֭ah%̪-䊉̱ݙbrtۭzxy+!zi瑳^'z!� p{쥕Ǣ{^鰞+bw鰀Wr-r,)౪j!jwly遪zᔉma塶汥0r騉x(⼼l This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
121MHz is in the VHF aeronautical communications band, maybe a new airport or airway? Chris Colgan Compliance Engineer TAG McLaren Audio Ltd The Summit, Latham Road Huntingdon, Cambs, PE29 6ZU *Tel: +44 (0)1480 415 627 *Fax: +44 (0)1480 52159 * Mailto:chris.col...@tagmclaren.com * http://www.tagmclaren.com > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Fischer [SMTP:kurt.fisc...@hyperinterop.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:03 PM > To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subject: Real product interference source at 121 MHz > > Hello all, > > A strange request but this has become an interference issue with a > sattelite communications link There seems to be a very strong interferer > at 121 MHz that is intermittent in nature and physically located in > Northern USA/Canada. > > It could be the marketing of a non-compliant consumer products or perhaps > some after market sattelite rec. retro-fit kit?? > > Has anyone else had this experience in the last year --- (the problem was > not present 2 years ago)? > It does appear to getting worse and is spreading geographically as well. > > Regards, > Kurt Fischer > Hyper Corp > N,j?^ A??#?&z?yg?? > ^y\v+?"?ybb?+hn?ya?0{by?\?:jw*.? > ?gvf&j:+v??0m?" ^?)?{.n+?l?h?gvf-?b?)²?F???r-rz(& > ??u?z?ah%?-?_?brt?zxy+?!zi?^'z!??p{??{^?+bw > Wr-r,)?j?!jwly?z?ma??0r?x(?l ** Please visit us at www.tagmclaren.com ** The contents of this E-mail are confidential and for the exclusive use of the intended recipient. If you receive this E-mail in error, please delete it from your system immediately and notify us either by E-mail, telephone or fax. You should not copy, forward or otherwise disclose the content of the E-mail. Important Note: Any typographical, clerical or other error in this communication is subject to correction without any liability on the part of TAG McLaren Audio Limited. Any orders placed shall be subject to acceptance by TAG McLaren Audio Limited on its standard terms and conditions of sale which shall govern the contract for the sale and purchase of the products ordered to the exclusion of any other terms and conditions. TAG McLaren Audio Ltd The Summit, 11 Latham Road Huntingdon, Cambs, PE29 6ZU Telephone : 01480 415600 (+44 1480 415600) Facsimile : 01480 52159 (+44 1480 52159) ** Please visit us at www.tagmclaren.com ** This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
>-Original Message- >From: Kurt Fischer [mailto:kurt.fisc...@hyperinterop.com] >Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:03 AM >To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >Subject: Real product interference source at 121 MHz > > >Hello all, > >A strange request but this has become an interference issue >with a sattelite communications link There seems to be a very >strong interferer at 121 MHz that is intermittent in nature >and physically located in Northern USA/Canada. > >It could be the marketing of a non-compliant consumer products >or perhaps some after market sattelite rec. retro-fit kit?? > >Has anyone else had this experience in the last year --- (the >problem was not present 2 years ago)? >It does appear to getting worse and is spreading >geographically as well. > >Regards, >Kurt Fischer >Hyper Corp >N,j�^ A污Ȟ#ˡ&zܓyg峉ƥ >^y汯\v+"ྡྷybb�+hnȭya†>0{by種̡ޙ?�\慢:jw*.˛ >بǧvf&j:+v飉瞢0m䠅"^ࠖ){.n+娉l孵h�ǧvf-夅b�)²ڶF駉�צr-rz(& >ྫ†u֯z֭ah%̪-銉̱ݙbrtۭzxy+!zi^'z!岊ⱷ p{ॕǢ{^Პ+bwᧀWr-r,)౪jᙷ >!jwlyᥪz᥉ma其⁅>0r젉x(ഠl > Kurt: Looks like you're also getting some interference to your sig! Seriously, this is in the Aeronautical Mobile allocation, and I would think that any unauthorized emissions at that frequency would be an extremely high priority for FCC and FAA attention. IIRC, many airports have DF equipment to quickly find local emissions. OTOH, if you are being harmed by an authorized emitter, then you have a tough problem. Isn't 121.5 MHz allocated to EPIRB's and ELT's? And I understand that these beacons are being slowly forced to a 400 MHz frequency? I think you'll need to tell us more about your victim system and what you know about the interfering source(s). Regards, Ed Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military & Avionics EMC Is Our Specialty Shake-Bake-Shock - Metrology - Reliability Analysis This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Real product interference source at 121 MHz
Kurt, this could be aviation communications. AM voice is centered at about 121 MHz. Dave From: Kurt Fischer [mailto:kurt.fisc...@hyperinterop.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:03 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Real product interference source at 121 MHz Hello all, A strange request but this has become an interference issue with a sattelite communications link There seems to be a very strong interferer at 121 MHz that is intermittent in nature and physically located in Northern USA/Canada. It could be the marketing of a non-compliant consumer products or perhaps some after market sattelite rec. retro-fit kit?? Has anyone else had this experience in the last year --- (the problem was not present 2 years ago)? It does appear to getting worse and is spreading geographically as well. Regards, Kurt Fischer Hyper Corp N,jࢱ^ AȞ#ˡ&zܓygƥ ^y\v+:""ybb2+hnȭya0{by種̡ޙ?&\:jw*.˛ بǧvf&j:+v 瞢0m" ^){.n+l5h.ǧvf-b2)²ڶF-צr-rz(& +u֯z֭ah%̪-ʉ̱ݙbrtۭzxy+!zi^'z! ⱷ p{ॕǢ{^+bwWr-r,)౪j7!jwly*zma60rx(l This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc