Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug
Dear Rich, I fully agree on your view about molded plugs. Recently we had a discussion on a product come with a rewirable plug. We suggested to change to non-rewirable plug but the supplier replied to cost rise. We don’t see any point to have a higher cost and also considering the risk of rewirable plug, the use of non-rewirable plug is a wise decision for the sake of both cost and reliablitity. Regards, Scott > On 12 Feb, 2016, at 1:32 am, Richard Nute wrote: > > > > Hi Scott: > > > In North America, molded plugs are not required by > law or standards. > > Most North America factory-supplied cords (on > equipment) are molded plugs. However, wirable > plugs are commonly available at electrical supply > stores, hardware stores, and even some grocery > stores. > > Molded plugs are mostly automated assembly, so are > lower cost and more reliable than hand-assembled > wirable plugs. > > I seem to recall seeing molded (non-rewirable) UK > plugs. > > > Rich > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 8:19 AM >> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >> Subject: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug >> >> Most of national mains plugs are non-rewirable > except UK >> plugs. Are they required by law, applicable > standard or >> cost efficiency? >> >> Thanks and regards, >> >> Scott >> > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug
The rewirable plugs are used to replace the damaged plugs and/or accompanying unsuitable plugs,i.e., failure to pass thru the hole/tunnel of furniture. Comparing non-rewirable plugs with rewirable ones, the cost should be lower. Non-rewirable plugs are low cost and reliable (assembled by skill labour/automation). That is no reason not to supply non-rewirable plugs with consumer products. In reality, most of national mains plugs are non-rewirable plugs with consumer products although there is permissibly rewirable plug in existance. Regards, Scott > On 12 Feb, 2016, at 4:08 am, John Allen wrote: > > UK Plug & Socket Regulations specify that consumer-type products be supplied > with a BS1363-compliant plug or plug converter - but no requirement for > moulding on, thus wirable plugs are occasionally used and still available to > buy in shops (or at least some shops). > > John Allen > W.London, UK > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] > Sent: 11 February 2016 17:32 > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug > > Hi Scott: > > > In North America, molded plugs are not required by law or standards. > > Most North America factory-supplied cords (on > equipment) are molded plugs. However, wirable plugs are commonly available > at electrical supply stores, hardware stores, and even some grocery stores. > > > Molded plugs are mostly automated assembly, so are lower cost and more > reliable than hand-assembled wirable plugs. > > I seem to recall seeing molded (non-rewirable) UK plugs. > > > Rich > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 8:19 AM >> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >> Subject: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug >> >> Most of national mains plugs are non-rewirable > except UK >> plugs. Are they required by law, applicable > standard or >> cost efficiency? >> >> Thanks and regards, >> >> Scott >> > > - > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to > > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > > Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at > http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in > well-used formats), large files, etc. > > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to > unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Scott Douglas > Mike Cantwell > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher: > David Heald: > > - > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to > > > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: > http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html > > Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at > http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used > formats), large files, etc. > > Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ > Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to > unsubscribe) > List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html > > For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Scott Douglas > Mike Cantwell > > For policy questions, send mail to: > Jim Bacher: > David Heald: - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug
UK Plug & Socket Regulations specify that consumer-type products be supplied with a BS1363-compliant plug or plug converter - but no requirement for moulding on, thus wirable plugs are occasionally used and still available to buy in shops (or at least some shops). John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: 11 February 2016 17:32 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug Hi Scott: In North America, molded plugs are not required by law or standards. Most North America factory-supplied cords (on equipment) are molded plugs. However, wirable plugs are commonly available at electrical supply stores, hardware stores, and even some grocery stores. Molded plugs are mostly automated assembly, so are lower cost and more reliable than hand-assembled wirable plugs. I seem to recall seeing molded (non-rewirable) UK plugs. Rich > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 8:19 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug > > Most of national mains plugs are non-rewirable except UK > plugs. Are they required by law, applicable standard or > cost efficiency? > > Thanks and regards, > > Scott > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald: - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug
Hi Scott: In North America, molded plugs are not required by law or standards. Most North America factory-supplied cords (on equipment) are molded plugs. However, wirable plugs are commonly available at electrical supply stores, hardware stores, and even some grocery stores. Molded plugs are mostly automated assembly, so are lower cost and more reliable than hand-assembled wirable plugs. I seem to recall seeing molded (non-rewirable) UK plugs. Rich > -Original Message- > From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 8:19 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug > > Most of national mains plugs are non-rewirable except UK > plugs. Are they required by law, applicable standard or > cost efficiency? > > Thanks and regards, > > Scott > - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas Mike Cantwell For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: David Heald:
