Re: [PSES] Restricted substances in annex XVII of REACH
John, Thanks for your detail explanation. If the substances of RoHS and REACH can be exchanged, why we need two requirements. Regards, Scott On 7/10/12 8:59 PM, John Allen john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Scott RoHS is strictly about the substances which the manufacturer must limit in his product where it is within the scope of the RoHS Directive, whereas the various chemicals controls directives have a far wider application and relate to many chemical products (including those in RoHS) and how they must controlled in introduction to the market, handling, packaging, labelling and instructions (etc.) Also, of course, the RoHS requirements apply only to the substances as used in electrical/electronic products within the scope of the Directive - whereas the same substances are widely used for vast numbers of other types of products. Regards John Allen Compliance With Experience Ltd W.London, UK -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Scott Xe Sent: 06 October 2012 18:33 To: ERA Subject: Restricted substances in annex XVII of REACH Looking at this annex, there are some substances such as lead, mercury, cadmium, chromium IV etc. They are already prohibited to be used in RoHS directive. Why are they included in a chemical control regulation? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Restricted substances in annex XVII of REACH
REACH is about knowing what substances are in your premises, How much , and control how they stored. (and packed and labeled) In certain cases notification is required. REACH is not only for materials incorporated into the end product but also for those used to in the process. (for example flammables used to heat a product) In fact its applicable for any hazardous substance under the control of the Company. There are 2 directives due to different introduction dates, and I suppose for legal reasons too. Gert Gremmen Ce-test, qualified testing bv -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Scott Xe Verzonden: maandag 8 oktober 2012 18:56 Aan: john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk; ERA Onderwerp: Re: Restricted substances in annex XVII of REACH John, Thanks for your detail explanation. If the substances of RoHS and REACH can be exchanged, why we need two requirements. Regards, Scott On 7/10/12 8:59 PM, John Allen john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Scott RoHS is strictly about the substances which the manufacturer must limit in his product where it is within the scope of the RoHS Directive, whereas the various chemicals controls directives have a far wider application and relate to many chemical products (including those in RoHS) and how they must controlled in introduction to the market, handling, packaging, labelling and instructions (etc.) Also, of course, the RoHS requirements apply only to the substances as used in electrical/electronic products within the scope of the Directive - whereas the same substances are widely used for vast numbers of other types of products. Regards John Allen Compliance With Experience Ltd W.London, UK -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Scott Xe Sent: 06 October 2012 18:33 To: ERA Subject: Restricted substances in annex XVII of REACH Looking at this annex, there are some substances such as lead, mercury, cadmium, chromium IV etc. They are already prohibited to be used in RoHS directive. Why are they included in a chemical control regulation? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Restricted substances in annex XVII of REACH
Scott RoHS is strictly about the substances which the manufacturer must limit in his product where it is within the scope of the RoHS Directive, whereas the various chemicals controls directives have a far wider application and relate to many chemical products (including those in RoHS) and how they must controlled in introduction to the market, handling, packaging, labelling and instructions (etc.) Also, of course, the RoHS requirements apply only to the substances as used in electrical/electronic products within the scope of the Directive - whereas the same substances are widely used for vast numbers of other types of products. Regards John Allen Compliance With Experience Ltd W.London, UK -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Scott Xe Sent: 06 October 2012 18:33 To: ERA Subject: Restricted substances in annex XVII of REACH Looking at this annex, there are some substances such as lead, mercury, cadmium, chromium IV etc. They are already prohibited to be used in RoHS directive. Why are they included in a chemical control regulation? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
