Re: [PSES] US electrical safety standard for product tested to EN 60204?

2016-12-06 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave 
Our NRTL would use an applicable UL standard perhaps UL 1647 in this case for 
the primary listing and use NFPA 79  (if applicable) as a supplemental standard 
as part of the assessment and report file.  I’ve just had one done recently 
similar using UL 508A and NFPA 79.

-Dave

From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 12:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] US electrical safety standard for product tested to EN 
60204?

Curt,

NFPA 79 is harmonized with EN 60204.  The US differences are 
clearly spelled out.  Unfortunately, NFPA 79 is not a standard that is used for 
product certification like many others – it is primarily used in field 
inspections to satisfy local AHJ inspection requirements.

However, if you can show bridging from 60204 to NFPA 79 your 
product should be in essential compliance with the key issues of the US NEC.  
This should go a long way in showing compliance to any product standard that 
would apply to the product.

You will need to be prepared to show the connection thru this 
chain to the certifying lab folks.  You need to be prepared, however, to deal 
with details not covered in this overall approach from 60204 and the product 
might have to be modified to show full compliance.

We can explore this more offline if you wish.

:>) br,  Pete

Peter E Perkins, PE
Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant
PO Box 23427
Tigard, ORe  97281-3427

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From: Curtis McNamara [mailto:mcnam...@umn.edu]
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Subject: [PSES] US electrical safety standard for product tested to EN 60204?

Curious what list members would recommend. This is essentially and exercise 
machine, tested to a variety of NEN standards including 60204. I was asked to 
look at what might take for a US approval, and wondered what standard to start 
with.
Thanks in advance!
   Curt
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Re: [PSES] US electrical safety standard for product tested to EN 60204?

2016-12-06 Thread Pete Perkins 
Curt,

 

NFPA 79 is harmonized with EN 60204.  The US differences are 
clearly spelled out.  Unfortunately, NFPA 79 is not a standard that is used for 
product certification like many others – it is primarily used in field 
inspections to satisfy local AHJ inspection requirements.  

 

However, if you can show bridging from 60204 to NFPA 79 your 
product should be in essential compliance with the key issues of the US NEC.  
This should go a long way in showing compliance to any product standard that 
would apply to the product.  

 

You will need to be prepared to show the connection thru this 
chain to the certifying lab folks.  You need to be prepared, however, to deal 
with details not covered in this overall approach from 60204 and the product 
might have to be modified to show full compliance.   

 

We can explore this more offline if you wish.  

 

:>) br,  Pete

 

Peter E Perkins, PE

Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant

PO Box 23427

Tigard, ORe  97281-3427

 

503/452-1201

 

  p.perk...@ieee.org

 

From: Curtis McNamara [mailto:mcnam...@umn.edu] 
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 9:40 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] US electrical safety standard for product tested to EN 60204?

 

Curious what list members would recommend. This is essentially and exercise 
machine, tested to a variety of NEN standards including 60204. I was asked to 
look at what might take for a US approval, and wondered what standard to start 
with.

Thanks in advance! 

   Curt

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Re: [PSES] US electrical safety standard for product tested to EN 60204?

2016-12-04 Thread John Allen 
Hi Curt,

I believe UL1647 and CSA C22.2 No. 68 would be the Standards for USA and Canada.


Best Regards,

John

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Product Safety Consulting, Inc.
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On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:48 PM, Curtis McNamara 
> wrote:

Curious what list members would recommend. This is essentially and exercise 
machine, tested to a variety of NEN standards including 60204. I was asked to 
look at what might take for a US approval, and wondered what standard to start 
with.

Thanks in advance!

   Curt
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