Re: CM Choke simulation

2002-02-16 Thread John Woodgate

I read in !emc-pstc that lfresea...@aol.com wrote (in <163.8e8ba89.299ed
5...@aol.com>) about 'CM Choke simulation', on Fri, 15 Feb 2002:
>I'm trying to model a common mode choke in Micro-sim. Has anyone tried 
> this? 
>Failing that, any suggestion on how to model one in Spice, possibly using 
>magnetic models?

It's just a transformer.
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Re: CM Choke simulation

2002-02-16 Thread Patrick Lawler

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:22:04 EST, lfresea...@aol.com wrote:
>I'm trying to model a common mode choke in Micro-sim. Has anyone tried this? 
>Failing that, any suggestion on how to model one in Spice, possibly using 
>magnetic models?

1) Coilcraft wrote an application note on this subject.  Go to their App note
page at http://www.coilcraft.com/appnotes.html and look for the paper titled
"Common mode filter inductor analysis"

2) There was a discussion in sci.electronics.cad in 1996 titled "Common Mode
Choke Modelling in Pspice?".
I was able to retrieve it through the Google newsgroup search at
http://www.google.com/grphp?hl=en

3) Also try
http://www.highdensitysolutions.com/hdsol/General/TechnicalPapers.html for
"Magnetic Components Modeling"

Patrick Lawler
plaw...@west.net

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Re: CM Choke simulation

2002-02-16 Thread Robert Macy

Derek,

Yes, do it all the time.   As long as you don't get into saturating any
cores, you can pretty much use lumped models and none of the nonlinearities
associated with core material.

Don't forget to include your AC mains cable.  It's a trifilar wound
transformer.  A Belden AC cord looks like a 3 winding transformer with 7uH
core.

You can also model the LISN and the parasitic capacitance in your test
setup.  Very educational.

Why do you ask?

   - Robert -




-Original Message-
From: lfresea...@aol.com 
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org 
Date: Friday, February 15, 2002 1:42 PM
Subject: CM Choke simulation


Hi all,

I'm trying to model a common mode choke in Micro-sim. Has anyone tried
this? Failing that, any suggestion on how to model one in Spice, possibly
using magnetic models?

Thanks in advance.

Derek.


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