Re: Comb Filter

2003-08-26 Thread Cortland Richmond


 Hello everyone,
I am looking for a manufacturer of an active comb filter to notch out
50Hz+harmonics noise from bio-medical signals.
Can anyone help.
Regards
Shaike Raz 

I encountered a similar problem almost 20 years ago and thought about using
a digital delay line to generate a powerline period delayed signal and
combining it with the original. In the end, and for our test lab, I could
not justify the cost and effort to build this.

Have you considered injecting a small amount of the 50 Hz noise antiphase
into the signal chain? In vacuum tube days this was known as a
hum-bucker.  

Cortland


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RE: Comb Filter

2003-08-26 Thread drcuthb...@micron.com

Are you really wanting to notch out all of the 50 Hz harmonics, or go with a
low pass filter? The LP filter is the simple solution and can be implemented
in analog form or DSP. A notch filter to remove only the 50 Hz harmonics would
best be done with DSP. Stanford Research makes a amplifier/filter box that
might be suitable if all you need is a LP filter. I don't know if it is
differential or only single ended.

A DSP can be designed to have a shorter settling time than the analog filter. 

   Dave Cuthbert
   Micron Technology


From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 2:47 PM
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Subject: Re: Comb Filter



I read in !emc-pstc that ITL-EMC User Group itl-...@itl.co.il wrote
(in 2D1037012914D4118DB8204C4F4F5020275AD4@ITLLTD01) about 'Comb
Filter' on Sun, 24 Aug 2003:

I am looking for a manufacturer of an active comb filter to notch 
out 50Hz+harmonics noise from bio-medical signals. 


I can't tell you of any suppliers, but since this is a common problem,
it would be surprising if nothing is available commercially.

There are two ways to do this: either split the signal into two, delay
one by 20 ms and re-combine them, and use a DSP chip to achieve the same
effect.
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Re: Comb Filter

2003-08-26 Thread John Woodgate

I read in !emc-pstc that ITL-EMC User Group itl-...@itl.co.il wrote
(in 2D1037012914D4118DB8204C4F4F5020275AD4@ITLLTD01) about 'Comb
Filter' on Sun, 24 Aug 2003:

I am looking for a manufacturer of an active comb filter to notch 
out 50Hz+harmonics noise from bio-medical signals. 


I can't tell you of any suppliers, but since this is a common problem,
it would be surprising if nothing is available commercially.

There are two ways to do this: either split the signal into two, delay
one by 20 ms and re-combine them, and use a DSP chip to achieve the same
effect.
-- 
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk 
Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to 
http://www.isce.org.uk
PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL!


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RE: Comb Filter

2003-08-25 Thread drcuthb...@micron.com
This sounds like a job for DSP.
 
Dave Cuthbert
Micron Technology

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Subject: Comb Filter



Hello everyone, 
I am looking for a manufacturer of an active comb filter to notch out
50Hz+harmonics noise from bio-medical signals. 
Can anyone help. 
Regards 
Shaike Raz 
EMC Laboratory Manager 
EMC Laboratory 
ITL (Product Testing) Ltd. 
Kfar Bin Nun 
Israel 
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