RE: HALT/HASS Testing

2000-09-09 Thread Barry Ma

Sorry, I was pointed out a typo in the email I sent 2 hrs ago this afternoon. 

MALT should be corrected to HALT in the second insertion with "The product is 
made better, but how much better is not known, at least not by the MALT 
methods."

   -BM

Thanks.
Best Regards,
Barry Ma
ANRITSUwww.anritsu.com
Morgan Hill, CA 95037
Tel. 408-778-2000 x 4465
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RE: HALT/HASS Testing

2000-09-08 Thread Barry Ma

Hi Darrell,

By coincidence, I'm reading the book you recommended. I found your descriptions 
consistent with the book. Please allow me to insert some supplements below.

Barry Ma
Anritsu Company


On Fri, 08 September 2000, Darrell Locke wrote: 
> 
> HALT.  Highly Accelerated Stress Testing.  This can go by other names.  This
> is where you stress the product (prototype stage typically) using a number
> of criteria, the most common being temperature extremes and vibration.  

... many HALT results have shown that all-axis vibration far surpass the 
effectiveness of thermal cycling for the broad spectrum of faults found in many 
types of equipment ...
  -(quoted from p. 13 of the book)

> You test first to determine the operational limits of the EUT (fails to 
> operate
> but recovers when the stresses are removed), then continue until you reach
> the destruct limits (unit is damaged).  The test is of short duration
> (couple days) and is intended to simulate life expectancy.  This can be
> shown using mathematical analysis with the Arrhenius equation among others.

In the process of finding upper and lower operational and destruct limits and 
pushing them to ... ... a very robust product ... will be generated. ... The 
product is made better, but how much better is not known, at least not by the 
MALT methods. However, when results of the MTBF based on field failure rates 
(the only meaningful MTBF) become known, it will probably be far higher than 
ever...
  - (quoted from p. 72 of the book)


> There has also been a high degree of correlation experimentally.  The
> failures seen in HALT are usually what you see in the field.  The idea is to
> find the weak points in your product, remedy them, such as using a higher
> rated part, then re-test to find the new limits.  The goal is to add lots of
> margin concerning the reliability of your product.  These tests must be done
> in specially designed chambers (called HALT chambers by most).  They start
> around $130K.  If you don't have the money to buy one there several labs
> that will gladly do the tests.  One such lab is Qualmark.  Others are
> popping up all the time.
> 
> HASS.  Highly accelerated Stress Screening.  This is a production test
> designed to find manufacturing defects, engineering changes, etc., that may
> affect the reliability of the product.  You need some kind of environmental
> or HALT chamber, or you can send all your units to a lab, but that gets
> expensive real fast.  The test is similar to HALT but you don't go to the
> destruct limits, just high enough to stress the unit and find defects.  The
> limits are usually established during HALT testing
> 
> Many books are available on the above subject, most notably Accelerated
> Reliability Engineering.  HALT & Hass by Greg K. Hobbs distributed by Wiley.
> 
> Good Luck
> Darrell Locke
> Advanced Input Devices

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Wilson [mailto:dwil...@alidian.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:34 AM
> To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org'; 'n...@world.std.com'
> Subject: HALT/HASS Testing
> 
> We make a Metro DWDM product (all fiber) and one of our potential customers
> mentioned HALT/HASS environmental testing. Has anyone else had to go through
> this for similar products?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave Wilson
> Alidian Networks Inc.
> 


Thanks.
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Barry Ma
ANRITSUwww.anritsu.com
Morgan Hill, CA 95037
Tel. 408-778-2000 x 4465
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RE: HALT/HASS Testing

2000-09-08 Thread Darrell Locke


HALT.  Highly Accelerated Stress Testing.  This can go by other names.  This
is where you stress the product (prototype stage typically) using a number
of criteria, the most common being temperature extremes and vibration.  You
test first to determine the operational limits of the EUT (fails to operate
but recovers when the stresses are removed), then continue until you reach
the destruct limits (unit is damaged).  The test is of short duration
(couple days) and is intended to simulate life expectancy.  This can be
shown using mathematical analysis with the Arrhenius equation among others.
There has also been a high degree of correlation experimentally.  The
failures seen in HALT are usually what you see in the field.  The idea is to
find the weak points in your product, remedy them, such as using a higher
rated part, then re-test to find the new limits.  The goal is to add lots of
margin concerning the reliability of your product.  These tests must be done
in specially designed chambers (called HALT chambers by most).  They start
around $130K.  If you don't have the money to buy one there several labs
that will gladly do the tests.  One such lab is Qualmark.  Others are
popping up all the time.

HASS.  Highly accelerated Stress Screening.  This is a production test
designed to find manufacturing defects, engineering changes, etc., that may
affect the reliability of the product.  You need some kind of environmental
or HALT chamber, or you can send all your units to a lab, but that gets
expensive real fast.  The test is similar to HALT but you don't go to the
destruct limits, just high enough to stress the unit and find defects.  The
limits are usually established during HALT testing

Many books are available on the above subject, most notably Accelerated
Reliability Engineering.  HALT & Hass by Greg K. Hobbs distributed by Wiley.

Good Luck
Darrell Locke
Advanced Input Devices
-Original Message-
From: Dave Wilson [mailto:dwil...@alidian.com]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:34 AM
To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org'; 'n...@world.std.com'
Subject: HALT/HASS Testing



We make a Metro DWDM product (all fiber) and one of our potential customers
mentioned HALT/HASS environmental testing. Has anyone else had to go through
this for similar products?

Thanks,

Dave Wilson
Alidian Networks Inc.

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Re: HALT/HASS Testing

1998-07-21 Thread MVA850SS
Don't forget that proper HALT testing is to test to failure, i.e., if the
product doesn't fail the HALT test was not performed properly. You do not
"pass" a HALT test. You learn from the failures.
Hans


RE: HALT/HASS Testing

1998-07-20 Thread GOEDDERZ, JIM
Dwight,

Our engineering group regularly sends products out for HALT testing. We
design ITE, although not computers. Some of the system problems that they
uncover are broken solder joints (mass of component), poor connections
(circuit boards), and other mechanical problem (fasteners).
The main idea is to increase the thermal stress on the product, with
vibration, until failure occurs. The test temperature starts at your maximum
operating temperature.
The products generally undergo about 3 days of testing. The cost is related
to how long it takes to verify functionality. We need about 15 minutes. It
will cost you about $8k for 3 days of test. You will need to either send an
engineer, or include a lot of replacement parts. Figure about two months to
schedule.

James Goedderz
Sensormatic Electronics
goedd...@sensormatic.com
Views expressed by the author do not necessarily represent those of
Sensormatic.


> --
> From: Dwight Hunnicutt[SMTP:dwight.hunnic...@vina-tech.com]
> Reply To: Dwight Hunnicutt
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 1998 12:01 PM
> To:   EMC PSTC; TREG Newsgroup; NEBS Newsgroup
> Subject:  HALT/HASS Testing
> 
> In a related area of compliance world, have any of you had experience
> subjecting your prototypes to HALT testing, then your production units
> to HASS testing (such as by QualMark)??  I'm wondering if this sort of
> "accelerated life" testing is something out there for the satellite and
> space shuttle designers, rather than for ITE and Telecom equipment
> manufacturers.
> 
> For those that did do some of this, did you break the bank and use 6
> months of your life for this testing, or was it relatively quick and
> painless (yeah, right)?
> 
> We're considering shaking and baking our telecom unit using these types
> of tests as a design verification tool, but one doesn't hear much about
> it on the newswire...
> 
> Dwight
> 
> p.s. HALT - Highly Accelerated Life Testing
>  HASS - Highly Accelerated Stress Screening
> 
> -- 
> 
> DWIGHT HUNNICUTT
> Sr. Compliance Engineer
> 
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Re: HALT/HASS Testing

1998-07-20 Thread MikonCons
Dwight:

As you may be aware, there is a major push to use COTS (commercial off-the-
shelf) hardware in military and space systems for non-critical (i.e., not life
threatening or the equivalent for non-repairable spaceborne systems).  The
clear implication is that cool-running, functionally-efficient, state-of-the-
art (i.e., designed and built with current, leading-edge technology)
commercial designs are respectable in performance AND of high quality, while
costing less than full mil-spec systems.

With the exception of the actual test schedule/time, IF your designers have
PROPERLY done their job AND your prototype construction is representative of
your production quality for device heatsinking (or other cooling method) and
solder connections, your company should benefit from HALT/HASS testing.  It
will serve to alert managers to incompetent designers and also (very
importantly) avoid the reputation- and cost-damaging effects of multiple field
failures.  Field failures always directly affect a company's bottom-line
profits.

I recommend a full speed ahead attitude with the expectation that some
weaknesses that NEED CORRECTING will be identified.  Such testing gives
designers a better perspective on the end use of the hardware, rather than
just thinking in ones and zeros and only being "terminal literate" (one of my
favorite phrases).  Respectable hardware quality in the marketplace generally
brings both professional AND monetary rewards to a company (Hewlett-Packard
test and measurement equipment comes to mind).

Good Engineering to you,

Mike Conn
Owner/Principal Consultant
Mikon Consulting