Re: Work in progress vs Date of Withdrawal
I read in !emc-pstc that Brewster, Alan wrote (in <79DC00BB2B01D5118E1200508BB0297003977A47@msxsanjose3.novellus .com>) about 'Work in progress vs Date of Withdrawal', on Fri, 22 Mar 2002: >If a vendor is in the process of building equipment and has started the >manufacturing phase before the date on which a standard is superceded, can >the goods still be supplied against the old standard? In particular, the >introduction of EN 61000-6-2 on April 1st will leave some equipment >suppliers with long lead time parts in a quandary over how to declare, >especially if they might not meet the surge and dip requirements. >Is there a published guidance on the treatment of material that is Work in >Progress? You have received several correct replies; the new standard applies. That is why industry insists on transition periods, normally three years from publication, for new or revised standards to become mandatory. If companies ignore the transition period, the Commission could argue that it is pointless to have it! -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
RE: Work in progress vs Date of Withdrawal
Each unit placed on the market must comply with the then current standards. A unit is placed on the market when the item leaves the manufacturing stage. You have the following options: 1) create a Tecnical Construction File of the current design and obtain an opinion from a Competent Body that the product is in compliance with the essential requirements of the EMC directive, or 2) build units and place them in distribution where they can remain for an indefinite time. Your company can own and operate a distribution center if necessary. Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International -Original Message- From: Brewster, Alan [mailto:alan.brews...@novellus.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:52 AM To: emc-pstc Subject: Work in progress vs Date of Withdrawal Greetings All, If a vendor is in the process of building equipment and has started the manufacturing phase before the date on which a standard is superceded, can the goods still be supplied against the old standard? In particular, the introduction of EN 61000-6-2 on April 1st will leave some equipment suppliers with long lead time parts in a quandary over how to declare, especially if they might not meet the surge and dip requirements. Is there a published guidance on the treatment of material that is Work in Progress? Regards, Alan Brewster --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
RE: Work in progress vs Date of Withdrawal
Hi Al, I do not know of a guide but it is usually stated in the directive what "placing a product on the market" means. It is my understanding that you can not ship(place on the market) anything into the EC that carries the CE mark after the date of withdrawal of a standard that is used to show compliance to a directive. Any products that are stored in a warehouse in the EC can still be sold after the DOW. Work in progress does not count. It must be in the country. Best regards, Jim -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Brewster, Alan Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 10:52 AM To: emc-pstc Subject: Work in progress vs Date of Withdrawal Greetings All, If a vendor is in the process of building equipment and has started the manufacturing phase before the date on which a standard is superceded, can the goods still be supplied against the old standard? In particular, the introduction of EN 61000-6-2 on April 1st will leave some equipment suppliers with long lead time parts in a quandary over how to declare, especially if they might not meet the surge and dip requirements. Is there a published guidance on the treatment of material that is Work in Progress? Regards, Alan Brewster --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
RE: Work in progress vs Date of Withdrawal
My understanding is as follows : The regulations applies to products first placed on the market or put into service. A product is first placed on the community market when it is made available for the first time. This is considered to take place when a product is transferred from the stage of manufacture with the intention of distribution and/or use on the community market. Thus if a manufacturer starts the manufacturing phase, and the relevant standard is supersceeded, then the current (new)standard should be used when the product is placed on the market. The supersceeded standard will not be sufficient to provide presumption of conformity with essential requirements. The concept of placing on the market refers to each individual product, not to a type of product, and whether it was manufactured as an individual unit or in a series. Web site for general information on the EMC directive is : http://www.europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/emc/index.htm A direct link to the web site page stating how first placed on the market should be interpreted is (EMC Directive): http://www.europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/emc/guides/chapthr e.htm A direct link to the web site page stating how first placed on the market should be interpreted is (RTTE Directive): http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/rtte/tcam3.htm#definition Regards Mark Render EMC and Radio Group Manager KTL Saxon Way Priory Park West Hessle East Yorkshire HU13 9PB E-mail: mren...@ktl.com Tel: +44 (0) 1482 801801 Fax: +44 (0) 1482 801806 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please do not read the contents. You should notify the sender immediately and delete the original e-mail. KTL is the trading name of Kingston Laboratories Limited Registered office: 37 Carr Lane Kingston upon Hull HU1 3RE Reg. No. 3263196 -Original Message- From: Brewster, Alan [mailto:alan.brews...@novellus.com] Sent: 22 March 2002 15:52 To: emc-pstc Subject: Work in progress vs Date of Withdrawal Greetings All, If a vendor is in the process of building equipment and has started the manufacturing phase before the date on which a standard is superceded, can the goods still be supplied against the old standard? In particular, the introduction of EN 61000-6-2 on April 1st will leave some equipment suppliers with long lead time parts in a quandary over how to declare, especially if they might not meet the surge and dip requirements. Is there a published guidance on the treatment of material that is Work in Progress? Regards, Alan Brewster --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list" --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
Work in progress vs Date of Withdrawal
Greetings All, If a vendor is in the process of building equipment and has started the manufacturing phase before the date on which a standard is superceded, can the goods still be supplied against the old standard? In particular, the introduction of EN 61000-6-2 on April 1st will leave some equipment suppliers with long lead time parts in a quandary over how to declare, especially if they might not meet the surge and dip requirements. Is there a published guidance on the treatment of material that is Work in Progress? Regards, Alan Brewster --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on "browse" and then "emc-pstc mailing list"
