[Emc-users] OT - Re: EMC Supported Boards and more
From: "Len Shelton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'" Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 6:00 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC Supported Boards and more >>> Mach's going that way slowly... > > No - Mach jumped in bed with Gecko. When I asked about whether there was > an > API for other hardware manufacturers to build devices like the G100, I was > moderated off the list. Len Could be some misunderstanding here. I will contact you off-list about your experience with moderation but it is very strange that you were removed from the Mach1Mach2CNC Yahoo! list for asking about APIs etc. To my knowledge, as a moderator for more than 3 years, only a very few spammers have ever been removed. The driver for the G100 has evolved over several iterations but at all times the source of it has been publically available. Although it would be a daunting task to emulate a G100, drivers do also exist for ncPod (http://ncpod.oemtech.com/) and Galil controllers and Art Fenerty will support anyone wanting to add a controller. Of course, how technically satisfactory this would be depends on the match of Mach3 architecture with the interface to the motion controller. Finally, a personal observation. The division of intelligence between the "user" machine and a "controller" is a particularly challenging problem because of the conflicting needs to lookahead and buffer motion to provide responsive jogging and feed-hold. Doing as much in one place (e.g. the PC) has a lot of attractions! John Prentice - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] slow down spans
Gentlemen, Thanks guys. I like your solution way better than my idea. In setting this up it did not occur to me to try to rapid to the soft lime to see if it would hit the hard limit. I don't like to test the machine by trying to break it. The MDSI control I put on has the slow down spans. When I (you) got homing to work my next thought was about the spans. I will set the soft limits a large distance from the end of travel and try this. I really appreciate you answering (putting up with) my questions. I have been looking for a way to help. I feel any help I could offer would be like the blind leading the blind. thanks Stuart - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Supported Boards and more
Len Shelton wrote: >>> Can't quite see the logic in not supporting "smart" cards though > > I don't see a need to move to a smart card, unless you are working with a > not-so-smart OS, like Windows. More advanced Trajectory types is one benefit.Not sure what EMC2 supports, as I have not used it to run a machine yet. I can't even comment on it. > >>> Mach's going that way slowly... > > No - Mach jumped in bed with Gecko. When I asked about whether there was an > API for other hardware manufacturers to build devices like the G100, I was > moderated off the list. Not sure which list you are talking about, but I seriously doubt any opinons would make either group kick someone out. Also in bed with Galil, The NC-Pod people, and soon DaltaTau? I think it's more like they are trying to take it further, sometimes trying to do it a little too fast ;) I'll use whatever I feel is going to suit my needs, I have some issues with Mach, and I'm sure I'll find some with EMC2. But at the end of the day I'll try to not be a zealot of either cause. Wayne... -- --- Wayne M Weedon Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fdos Design Poole UK Tel +44-1202-677025Fax +44-1202-770515 Mobile: 07774 439915 Specialists in small batch & Production Mechanical/Electrical Engineering --- - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] slow down spans
Hi Stuart I can't read back on this thread right now but if this is stepper, there may be one other cause of abrupt stop at the end of a commanded travel. It's old but may still be an issue. If the step pulse generator can't quite keep up with spitting out pulses they pile up at the end. Rayh On Sun, 1 Apr 2007 08:17:50 -0500, "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" said: >Gentlemen, >Thanks guys. I like your solution way better than my idea. >In setting this up it did not occur to me to try to rapid to the >soft lime to see if it would hit the hard limit. I don't like to test >the machine by trying to break it. The MDSI control I put on has the >slow down spans. When I (you) got homing to work my next thought was >about the spans. >I will set the soft limits a large distance from the end of travel >and try this. >I really appreciate you answering (putting up with) my questions. >I have been looking for a way to help. I feel any help I could offer >would be like the blind leading the blind. >thanks >Stuart > >- >Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your >opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash >http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV >___ >Emc-users mailing list >Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] OT - Re: EMC Supported Boards and more
John Prentice wrote: > > Could be some misunderstanding here. I will contact you off-list about your > experience with moderation but it is very strange that you were removed from > the Mach1Mach2CNC Yahoo! list for asking about APIs etc. To my knowledge, as > a moderator for more than 3 years, only a very few spammers have ever been > removed. > > The driver for the G100 has evolved over several iterations but at all times > the source of it has been publically available. > > Although it would be a daunting task to emulate a G100, drivers do also > exist for ncPod (http://ncpod.oemtech.com/) and Galil controllers and Art > Fenerty will support anyone wanting to add a controller. Of course, how > technically satisfactory this would be depends on the match of Mach3 > architecture with the interface to the motion controller. > Well, I tried to get Art to support, or help ME support my PPMC line of servo controllers under Machx. He declined to do anything on it, after sounding enthusiastic for a short while. The major problem is my controllers don't have "intelligence", need the PC to close the servo loop, and have no buffering of commands. His big complaint is that floating point calculation would be needed in the "real time" interrupt service environment. (I agree that F.P. would be a better way to go, but historical CNC controls have done the servo loop with fixed point calculation.) > Finally, a personal observation. The division of intelligence between the > "user" machine and a "controller" is a particularly challenging problem > because of the conflicting needs to lookahead and buffer motion to provide > responsive jogging and feed-hold. Doing as much in one place (e.g. the PC) > has a lot of attractions! Yes, I certainly agree. It makes monitoring and setup a lot easier, and you can have the PC report the servo performance anytime you think something might be wrong. No need to change cables, download firmware or anything. Jon - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Development decisions Classicladder
So what is expected from me when it comes to changes to a program (classicladder) that may be useful to the project? Who do I speak to to make sure it is what you want etc. And if thats all good where do I comit the changes to? This is all very new to me but I have made improvements and need people to test/approve them. Thanks. Chris Morley _ Check Out Our List Of Trendy Restaurants. You'll Eat It Up! http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2&cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!378 - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] How do I dial?
Pardon the basic question but I finally have a modem that works on my computer but I just don't know how to connect to the internet with Ubuntu6.06lts. I need help finding and configuring a dialer I guess... My external modem is at /dev/ttys0. I have had modems that will connect using KDE but this Gnome thing has me totally baffled. Please help me find and configure a dialer so I can update things... Thanks, Clint - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Development decisions Classicladder
Chris Morley wrote: > So what is expected from me when it comes to changes to a program > (classicladder) that may be useful to the project? Who do I speak to to make > sure it is what you want etc. And if thats all good where do I comit the > changes to? This is all very new to me but I have made improvements and need > people to test/approve them. Thanks. > > Chris Morley Subscribe to the emc-developers list. Post a description of what you want to do there, and start a discussion. If people like your plans, great. If there is disagreement, we will work it out on the list. When its time to commit changes, you can submit a patch to an existing developer who will commit it, or you can send a ssh key to Chris Radek to be added to the cvs server. We prefer that people make their first contribution by sending a patch for review, once that has been accepted future commits can be made directly. Its also a good idea to subscribe to the emc-commit list (definitely do so once you have commit access to CVS) so you can keep informed about what other developers are doing. List info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-commit Regards, John Kasunich - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How do I dial?
On Sunday 01 April 2007, xtra209 wrote: >Pardon the basic question but I finally have a modem that works on my >computer but I just don't know how to connect to the internet with >Ubuntu6.06lts. I need help finding and configuring a dialer I guess... >My external modem is at /dev/ttys0. I have had modems that will connect >using KDE but this Gnome thing has me totally baffled. > I haven't used dialup in years, but here is the script I use for autodial access for many years. Edit to suit your ISP's requirements, and make a starter link from whatever runlevel you normally start linux in, with a fairly low S number in that rc#.d directory. It should start before your network does. If the network is S10network, then make the link S09network etc etc. >Please help me find and configure a dialer so I can update things... > >Thanks, > >Clint > > >- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn > cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVD >EV ___ >Emc-users mailing list >Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) i dont even know if it makes sense at all :) This is an experimental patch for an experimental kernel :)) -- Ingo Molnar on linux-kernel demand-pppd-500number Description: application/shellscript - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Development decisions Classicladder
Hi Chris, this is good news .. There is a mailing list for devel related things here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=emc-developers You can drop your ideas in there, and we'll see how we can proceed. If it's changes to classicladder only, (depending on the changes) we probably want to get them into the original project. Classicladder has been integrated into emc2, but it is a project on it's own.. Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: "Chris Morley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:09 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Development decisions Classicladder > > So what is expected from me when it comes to changes to a program > (classicladder) that may be useful to the project? Who do I speak to > to make > sure it is what you want etc. And if thats all good where do I comit > the > changes to? This is all very new to me but I have made improvements > and need > people to test/approve them. Thanks. > > Chris Morley > > _ > Check Out Our List Of Trendy Restaurants. You'll Eat It Up! > http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2&cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!378 > > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to > share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/741 - Release Date: > 31.3.2007 20:54 > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC Supported Boards and more
> Jon Elson wrote: > Well, I tried to get Art to support, or help ME support my PPMC > line of servo controllers under Machx. He declined to do > anything on it, after sounding enthusiastic for a short while. . I don't want to take this to far off the topic of EMC, but Art has released a SDK for writing 'plug-ins' that has been used to do the galil, ncPOd and a few input devices. If you really want to support your device, and if its possible under the limits of windows, then you now have the needed tools to do it. I know thats not 'open', but its about as close as windows gets. ron ginger - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] How do I dial?
xtra209 wrote: > Pardon the basic question but I finally have a modem that works on my > computer but I just don't know how to connect to the internet with > Ubuntu6.06lts. I need help finding and configuring a dialer I guess... > My external modem is at /dev/ttys0. I have had modems that will connect > using KDE but this Gnome thing has me totally baffled. > > Please help me find and configure a dialer so I can update things... This is non-EMC related information. There is a rather rude but honest statement that goes "STFW". It means "Search the F***ing Web". In this case, the very first entry you get when you put Ubuntu Dialup Networking into Google is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=390599 That is a forum specifically focused on helping people get dial-up working on Ubuntu. The people there are far more likely to be able to help you than we are. In addition, that post includes a link to the Ubuntu Dialup Modem HowTo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto A HowTo is exactly what it sounds like - step by step instructions telling you how to do something. We are happy to try to answer EMC related questions, and within limits we will answer general Linux questions when we can. But there is far more information out there on the web then we can possibly have. The first step when you have a problem is to try to find the answer yourself. Even the fastest mailing list response is slower than searching the web or reading the manual. And the satisfaction of finding the answer for yourself is worth something too! Regards, John Kasunich - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] new install, can't get needed packages to compile Axis
Probably for Chris of Jeff, I did a fresh install of the Ubuntu 6.06 and was trying to apt-get all the necessary packages to compile EMC. When I got to the ./configure I ran into this : checking for GL/gl.h ... no Required OpenGL header missing I tried to apt-get install xlibmesa-gl-dev bit it said this package has pbeen replaced, but what it recommended couldn't be found, either. Any ideas? I just did this a couple weeks ago and it seemed to work fine! Thanks, Jon - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] new install, can't get needed packages to compile Axis
Did you try apt-get build-dep emc2 ? That is the preferred way to get all build dependencies for emc2. Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: "Jon Elson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:53 AM Subject: [Emc-users] new install, can't get needed packages to compile Axis > Probably for Chris of Jeff, > > I did a fresh install of the Ubuntu 6.06 and was trying to > apt-get all the necessary packages to compile EMC. When I > got to the ./configure I ran into this : > > checking for GL/gl.h ... no > Required OpenGL header missing > > I tried to apt-get install xlibmesa-gl-dev > bit it said this package has pbeen replaced, but what it > recommended couldn't be found, either. > > Any ideas? I just did this a couple weeks ago and it seemed to > work fine! > > Thanks, > > Jon > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to > share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/742 - Release Date: > 1.4.2007 20:49 > > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
