Re: [Emc-users] Spindle speed control with cnc4pc board

2008-01-06 Thread Lester Caine
Peter Homann wrote:
> Hi Lester,
> 
> The DigiSpeed-GX board contains an isolated 5V to 15V dc/dc converter. It
> accepts a PWM signal and converts it to an isolated DC control voltage
> suitable for Asian DC motor controllers, and VFDs.
> 
> http://homanndesigns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=21

Yes Peter - in which case one could just use a C1G and a DigiSpeed board 
rather than the C11G which was being discussed.
Actually that IS a smaller, tidier solution - just requires ordering from 
multiple suppliers :(

> Cheers,
> 
> Peter.
> 
> Lester Caine wrote:
>> Kirk Wallace wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 21:07 +, Lester Caine wrote:
 Kirk Wallace wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 17:22 +, Lester Caine wrote:
>> Geert De Pecker wrote:
>>> I probably wrongly assumed that the voltage should come from the KBIC
>>> ... snip 
> How much adjustment will the potentiometer give? Thanks.
 http://cnc4pc.com/Tech_Docs/C11G_&_SIEG_X3_Electrical%20storybook.pdf
 Check out page 7.
 The thing to remember here is that the motor control pot on the Asian 
 mills is 
 at mains potential, so you need a totally isolated supply to drive that 
 bit of 
 the circuit. The boards I've played with a have a reasonable range on the 
 pot, 
 but I've only dropped to +9V from about 11V did not check how much further 
 it 
 would go.

 The NEW boards from cnc4pc don't have the +12V requirement on board, so a 
 +5V 
 to +12V module may be required. The on board 12V relay has been replaced 
 with 
 a 5V one so the whole board just runs off 5V now.
>>> Thanks for the information. Does that mean there is a high common mode
>>> voltage (AC or DC) on the two pins next to the DC converter? Is the
>>> motor controller like the speed controllers for universal motors, or Do
>>> you have any keywords to search on the type of motor controller this is?
>> YES - basically controllers that only have a control pot on the machine are 
>> likely not to be isolated from the main supply, and that is the reason this 
>> little isolated control was provided. Controllers that actually have a 0 to 
>> 10V DC input are more than likely not to require additional isolation as the 
>> controls are already earthed (and in which case the isolated +12 can be 
>> dropped altogether - just provide an earthed +12V). It is just the motor 
>> controllers that do not provide an 'official' DC control voltage that need 
>> care.

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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle speed control with cnc4pc board

2008-01-06 Thread Peter Homann
Hi Lester,

The DigiSpeed-GX board contains an isolated 5V to 15V dc/dc converter. It
accepts a PWM signal and converts it to an isolated DC control voltage
suitable for Asian DC motor controllers, and VFDs.

http://homanndesigns.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=21

Cheers,

Peter.

Lester Caine wrote:
> Kirk Wallace wrote:
>> On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 21:07 +, Lester Caine wrote:
>>> Kirk Wallace wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 17:22 +, Lester Caine wrote:
> Geert De Pecker wrote:
>> I probably wrongly assumed that the voltage should come from the KBIC
>> ... snip 
 How much adjustment will the potentiometer give? Thanks.
>>> http://cnc4pc.com/Tech_Docs/C11G_&_SIEG_X3_Electrical%20storybook.pdf
>>> Check out page 7.
>>> The thing to remember here is that the motor control pot on the Asian mills 
>>> is 
>>> at mains potential, so you need a totally isolated supply to drive that bit 
>>> of 
>>> the circuit. The boards I've played with a have a reasonable range on the 
>>> pot, 
>>> but I've only dropped to +9V from about 11V did not check how much further 
>>> it 
>>> would go.
>>>
>>> The NEW boards from cnc4pc don't have the +12V requirement on board, so a 
>>> +5V 
>>> to +12V module may be required. The on board 12V relay has been replaced 
>>> with 
>>> a 5V one so the whole board just runs off 5V now.
>> Thanks for the information. Does that mean there is a high common mode
>> voltage (AC or DC) on the two pins next to the DC converter? Is the
>> motor controller like the speed controllers for universal motors, or Do
>> you have any keywords to search on the type of motor controller this is?
> 
> YES - basically controllers that only have a control pot on the machine are 
> likely not to be isolated from the main supply, and that is the reason this 
> little isolated control was provided. Controllers that actually have a 0 to 
> 10V DC input are more than likely not to require additional isolation as the 
> controls are already earthed (and in which case the isolated +12 can be 
> dropped altogether - just provide an earthed +12V). It is just the motor 
> controllers that do not provide an 'official' DC control voltage that need 
> care.
> 

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