Re: [Emc-users] more on using gamepads to drive a mill

2009-07-12 Thread sani.broy...@free.fr
Squid, when NOT cooked with garlic, olive oil and lemon juice, is an open 
source proxy widely used :-)

Mine was confused by port#85, but isn't any more.

I'ts ready to serve :-)))

Regards, Chris



Le dimanche 12 juillet 2009 02:13:08, Gene Heskett a écrit :
 On Saturday 11 July 2009, sani.broy...@free.fr wrote:
 OK it works once I reconfigured my squid.

 squid?  I thought that was another name for a cuttlefish or something. :)

 Your server replies an access denied probabely because of IP/Port
  rewriting.
 
 Sorry for the noise :-)
 
 Chris.
 
 Le samedi 11 juillet 2009 17:19:40, Luc Claeys a écrit :
  Hi,
 
  sani.broy...@free.fr wrote:
   Bien vu :-)
  
   But this space was caused by cut/past of message.
  
   It wasn't in your initial message and link.
  
   The message is access denied rather that not found.
  
   Do you have an htaccess file ? A reverse proxy ?
  
   If US list members manage to get your URL, it's a WAN issue, don't
   bother with it, there is nothing that can be done except pushing it on
   a regular server.
 
  I can access the files all right from here in Belgium, Europe.
 
  Luc
 
 
  
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Re: [Emc-users] more on using gamepads to drive a mill

2009-07-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 July 2009, sani.broy...@free.fr wrote:
Squid, when NOT cooked with garlic, olive oil and lemon juice, is an open
source proxy widely used :-)

I know, Chris. I even ran it here, for about 2 or 3 days once, having the same 
problems it's giving you.  It would cache an error page even if you fixed the 
error.  Got old, fast.

Mine was confused by port#85, but isn't any more.

I'ts ready to serve :-)))

I've never had the real thing, we don't seem to catch any of those from our 
Iowa farm ponds.  Lots of trout from the lakes in the Black Hills of South 
Dakota have crossed my lips, but not as much since I moved to West Virginia in 
'84.  Really clean water ( cold) for trout or walleye is hard to find what 
with all the coal mines.  So I get my fish from Long John Silvers these days. 
:(

Regards, Chris

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[Emc-users] bug: Axis trunk MDI history

2009-07-12 Thread Leslie Newell
The MDI history in Axis trunk appears to be broken. In the release 
version, pressing up arrow after entering an MDI command highlights the 
first item in the history list. In the release version it doesn't appear 
to reset the selection so pressing up arrow could end up selecting an 
item quite a way up the list.

To demonstrate the bug, switch to MDI mode and press up arrow a few 
times. Now press enter to execute the command. Press up arrow again and 
it should select the first in the list.

Les

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Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 homing

2009-07-12 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Peter C. Wallace wrote:
 Unfortunately, the HM2 driver does not support lowering the encoder sample 
 rate sample rate yet

The only control over the encoder sample rate that the hostmot2 driver 
currently exposes is the quadrature filter bit.

 From the hostmot2(9) manpage:

(bit r/w) filter: If set to True (the default), the quadrature counter 
needs 15 clocks to register a change on any of the three input lines 
(any pulse shorter than this is rejected as noise).  If set to False, 
the  quadrature counter needs only 3 clocks to register a change.  The 
encoder sample clock runs at 33 MHz on the PCI AnyIO cards and 50 MHz on 
the 7i43.


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Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 homing

2009-07-12 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
John Kasunich wrote:
 A simple test to see if screened cable will help can be done with some 
 aluminum foil.  Make a screen around the cable, ground it, and see if 
 it helps.  Just be carefull that the exposed foil doesn't short anything.

Like this?  :-)

http://highlab.com/~seb/emc2/al-screened-cable.jpg

The ground line from the aluminum foil screen is just visible to the 
left of the nearest stepper motor: it's a short length of solid-core 
wire with gray-and-red insulation.  One stripped end wraps around the 
aluminum foil and the other is attached to the stand-off screw of the 
7i30 board (at the lower left of the picture).

Tidy, my workbench ain't.  Roomy neither.


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Re: [Emc-users] Hostmot2 homing

2009-07-12 Thread John Thornton
That looks like Morgus the Magnificent at work.

Anyone know who that is?

John

On 12 Jul 2009 at 16:30, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:

 John Kasunich wrote:
  A simple test to see if screened cable will help can be done with
 some 
  aluminum foil.  Make a screen around the cable, ground it, and
 see if 
  it helps.  Just be carefull that the exposed foil doesn't short
 anything.
 
 Like this?  :-)
 
 http://highlab.com/~seb/emc2/al-screened-cable.jpg
 
 The ground line from the aluminum foil screen is just visible to the
 left of the nearest stepper motor: it's a short length of solid-core
 wire with gray-and-red insulation.  One stripped end wraps around
 the 
 aluminum foil and the other is attached to the stand-off screw of
 the 
 7i30 board (at the lower left of the picture).
 
 Tidy, my workbench ain't.  Roomy neither.
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] OpenGL on EMC2? + 7i43

2009-07-12 Thread Richard Acosta
No problem for me, but it seems there is a lot of people not reading 
completely .OR./.AND. correctly what i wrote.

Best regards.



El 08/07/2009 06:21 a.m., Sven Wesley escribió:
 Both sides have given their opinions. For the second time, let this go now.
 Please?

 Regards,
 Sven


 2009/7/8 Leslie Newell les.new...@fastmail.co.uk

   
 I just looked back though al of your posts in this thread. They are all
 about problems with the operating system, not EMC. Why are you blaming
 the EMC guys? If you bought some Windows software then found Windows
 didn't like your computer, would you blame the suppliers of the software?
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Re: [Emc-users] OpenGL on EMC2? + 7i43

2009-07-12 Thread Richard Acosta

 Is an apology you are looking for?
   
Is .NOT.
I'm just telling everyone(over and over) who says i had .NOT. read 
manuals, .AND. didn't asked help following protocols, and a lot of 
etc... that was .NOT. my fault, i did what i always do, fist read docs 
then make my decission, then if something does not work, ask for help. 
.AND. i have found some people who likes to put blame on others without 
even stop to read, not only what i wrote, but neither the manual i 
refferenced.(1 year ago)

BUT!... i would like some kind of that (apologise) from people who can 
only read a single sentence and think the whole paragraph meaning is there.
I know that the people behind EMC development (or at least some of them) 
did and do read and think correctly, but there seems to be a lot of this 
list readers/writers who can't stop to think a little bit about what 
they read .AND. .OR. where things point to.


Just trying to end this.

Best regards.



 I am a member of EMC's development.  I, personally am sorry
 that your experience with EMC was less then what you hoped.
 I can assure you no one was trying to pull a fast one on you.
 Certainly no one was trying to fraud you.
 The hostmot2 software was and is very new. When the person who
 writes the software tests it it is fairly easy to miss bugs because the 
 person tends to use it as he intended. The more it is used by other people
 (especially non programmers) the more these are flushed out. As Developers
 we support this by fixing them as best and fast as we can. Now programmers 
 (as a rule) are just terrible about documentation. Docs are boring - new 
 features
 are fun. 
 Actually the docs are way way better now then even a year ago, as far as 
 being 
 up to date, correct and usable. But they are just like the software / 
 programmers. 
 When you write them they make sense to you but you knew what you meant!
 On top of that, in a rapidly developing project it's pretty easy to have the 
 docs 
 (usually just slightly) out of date. 

 We are not perfect - we just try to do our best.

 On our side, yes maybe we need to evaluate how we release or advertise the
 state of our software. In fact we have already discussed it in general, to 
 avoid
 problems.
 The real problem comes that we think it is right/ bug free because we have 
 tested / used it . But the software is complicated and flexible- we need more 
 people to test / use it. We don't pay people to test. I'm pretty sure profit 
 companies do. So we release it. If and when problems come up we fix them.
 In most cases the problems that come up are obscure / minor anyways.
 Usually this works very well-sometimes not so well.

 I understand it can be very frustrating, it is frustrating for us too- we 
 want people
 to have success and fun with EMC!
 But no one likes to be 'beat-up' over these problems, especially if we are 
 not paid
 to put up with it. We do this because we like the challenge, or like to give 
 back,
 or like to tinker.

 So Richard again I am sorry things worked out so badly for you.
 If you still want help with using the mesa board and EMC we can
 help but you have to stop the negativity now. Your point is across now

 To everyone else: We got our point across too - lets move on to some
 positive energy. If things need changing to help a new person out then
 lets hear it or volunteer to help do it. If there is problems or 
 disappointments
 lets get to the point, keep the negativity to the minimum,  And lets fix it!

 I think what this situation is really saying is that EMC is getting heard 
 about-
 now it's not just the gurus and power tinkers that want to use it, regular 
 people who don't want to invest the time to learn why something works 
 they just want to use it. As far as I'm concerned I say welcome- we'll try to 
 help.

 Chris Morley
  

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Re: [Emc-users] OpenGL on EMC2? + 7i43

2009-07-12 Thread Richard Acosta
El 08/07/2009 06:13 a.m., Leslie Newell escribió:
 I just looked back though al of your posts in this thread. They are all 
 about problems with the operating system, not EMC. Why are you blaming 
 the EMC guys? If you bought some Windows software then found Windows 
 didn't like your computer, would you blame the suppliers of the software?
   
Well... not, you're only reading the last issue and i'm talking about a 
lot of issues i had to suffer from the beggining.
When i bought my board, there was already other people with a similar 
one working, and one of that people was the one who sent me the correct 
files to use.

.AND. When i speak about EMC manual and the mistakes about the driver 
and firmware and commands ussed and etc, etc... i'm not talking about 
Linux, i'm talking about the great mistakes i made and the ammount of 
time spent because i followed that directions that were wrong and did'nt 
find not even 1 sentence about that until some people started the 
laughter because i was trying to use deprecated commands(old driver) 
with new driveS

So, as i said before to other people, please, don't read only one part, 
read the whole thing and try to think and understand, because this last 
paragraph i have written it several times on this same looong living thread.

Regards.


 FWIW I recently purchased a 7i20 for my lathe and it is running fine. 
 Yes I did have to spend some time trawling the linuxcnc website for the 
 relevant info but apart from that it pretty much works as described.

 Les


 Richard Acosta wrote:
   
 I have bough a board, directed by EMC people.
 I am not dissapointed with MEsa, i'm dissapointed with the people who 
 advised me.

 

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