[Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?

2010-08-23 Thread Colin Kingsbury
I'm looking at trying to build a homebrew version of a dedicated controller
with an integrated keyboard, MPG, and touchscreen. On the touchscreens, I've
been looking at some of the 7-8 units originally made for in-dash DVD
players, Lilliput seems to be a common name for the hardware and I've read
about touchkit as being the main driver for using these 4/5-wire
resistive-interface screens with Ubuntu. There seems to be a choice of
serial and USB interfaces.

Before I go out and buy a bunch of hardware that doesn't play well, does
anyone have any words of wisdom on what I should or shouldn't look at? For
reference, this is the sort of unit I'm thinking about:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lilliput-EBY701-NP-C-T-7-VGA-Touch-Screen-1-Year-Warr-/300444259217?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

* And yes, I realize a 7 screen will have lower resolution than my iPhone
4... I'm looking to build a panel with illuminated modal switches and
generally see about moving some stuff off the screen.
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Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?

2010-08-23 Thread Neil Baylis
Just wanted to mention an alternative, since you have an iPhone.

There's a great app available for iPhone called touchOSC. It was built for
using the iPhone as a controller for musical devices, such as synthesizers,
drum machines, samplers, etc. It comes with a bunch of inbuilt control
panels, as well as the ability to define your own control panels.

I have a plan to use it to control my laser machine, which runs with EMC. I
have some prototype code to receive the UI events from touchOSC, but have
not integrated anything into EMC yet.

There's a public domain C library that is widely used for sending and
receiving OSC protocol, called liblo and that what I'm using initially.
Ultimately, my laser application will be written in Common Lisp, so I will
probably abandon liblo in favor of a lisp library.

Anyway, for controlling music devices, it works very well. I have no doubt
that it will also work for some EMC systems, depending on the particular
needs.

Neil

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Colin Kingsbury ckingsb...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm looking at trying to build a homebrew version of a dedicated controller
 with an integrated keyboard, MPG, and touchscreen. On the touchscreens,
 I've
 been looking at some of the 7-8 units originally made for in-dash DVD
 players, Lilliput seems to be a common name for the hardware and I've read
 about touchkit as being the main driver for using these 4/5-wire
 resistive-interface screens with Ubuntu. There seems to be a choice of
 serial and USB interfaces.

 Before I go out and buy a bunch of hardware that doesn't play well, does
 anyone have any words of wisdom on what I should or shouldn't look at? For
 reference, this is the sort of unit I'm thinking about:


 http://cgi.ebay.com/Lilliput-EBY701-NP-C-T-7-VGA-Touch-Screen-1-Year-Warr-/300444259217?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

 * And yes, I realize a 7 screen will have lower resolution than my iPhone
 4... I'm looking to build a panel with illuminated modal switches and
 generally see about moving some stuff off the screen.

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Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?

2010-08-23 Thread James Louis
This past CNC Workshop in Ann Arbor, Michigan had a small touchscreen EMC2 
controller on display at the Pico Systems booth.  It used an interface called 
Touchy and might be just what you're looking for, but it is not released yet.
I liked it a lot.

Jim

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From: Neil Baylis [mailto:neil.bay...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 2:53 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?

Just wanted to mention an alternative, since you have an iPhone.

There's a great app available for iPhone called touchOSC. It was built for
using the iPhone as a controller for musical devices, such as synthesizers,
drum machines, samplers, etc. It comes with a bunch of inbuilt control
panels, as well as the ability to define your own control panels.

I have a plan to use it to control my laser machine, which runs with EMC. I
have some prototype code to receive the UI events from touchOSC, but have
not integrated anything into EMC yet.

There's a public domain C library that is widely used for sending and
receiving OSC protocol, called liblo and that what I'm using initially.
Ultimately, my laser application will be written in Common Lisp, so I will
probably abandon liblo in favor of a lisp library.

Anyway, for controlling music devices, it works very well. I have no doubt
that it will also work for some EMC systems, depending on the particular
needs.

Neil

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Colin Kingsbury ckingsb...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm looking at trying to build a homebrew version of a dedicated controller
 with an integrated keyboard, MPG, and touchscreen. On the touchscreens,
 I've
 been looking at some of the 7-8 units originally made for in-dash DVD
 players, Lilliput seems to be a common name for the hardware and I've read
 about touchkit as being the main driver for using these 4/5-wire
 resistive-interface screens with Ubuntu. There seems to be a choice of
 serial and USB interfaces.

 Before I go out and buy a bunch of hardware that doesn't play well, does
 anyone have any words of wisdom on what I should or shouldn't look at? For
 reference, this is the sort of unit I'm thinking about:


 http://cgi.ebay.com/Lilliput-EBY701-NP-C-T-7-VGA-Touch-Screen-1-Year-Warr-/300444259217?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

 * And yes, I realize a 7 screen will have lower resolution than my iPhone
 4... I'm looking to build a panel with illuminated modal switches and
 generally see about moving some stuff off the screen.

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Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?

2010-08-23 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 03:21:19PM -0500, James Louis wrote:
 This past CNC Workshop in Ann Arbor, Michigan had a small
 touchscreen EMC2 controller on display at the Pico Systems booth.  It
 used an interface called Touchy and might be just what you're
 looking for, but it is not released yet.

Yes it is.  It's in 2.4.

 I liked it a lot.

Good to hear!

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Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?

2010-08-23 Thread Jon Elson
James Louis wrote:
 This past CNC Workshop in Ann Arbor, Michigan had a small touchscreen EMC2 
 controller on display at the Pico Systems booth.  It used an interface called 
 Touchy and might be just what you're looking for, but it is not released 
 yet.
 I liked it a lot.

   
Not really all there yet.  There are apparently about 5 touch screens 
that have been set up for the Beagle Board, most of them cost more than 
the Beagle.  There is no real time RTAI package yet for the Beagle 
board, hopefully soon.  Then, EMC2 has to be ported to the Beagle, 
hopefully that will not be a big deal, but it is a different 
architecture (non-X86) so there could be surprises.

I DID have touchy running on an old Gateway Profile 3 computer with a 
glass-plate touch screen taped to the front.  The Keytec Magic Touch 
touch panels are Linux-compatible and can be put on any computer with an 
available serial port.  The Profile 3 is an all-in-one computer, 
basically a laptop without the keyboard, the main board, hard drive, 
etc. all fits behind the LCD screen.  This is a great package for 
installing inside a big machine pendant, you just clamp it where the old 
CRT went.  The Profile 3 can be had with up to 1 GHz Pentium CPU, and 
the parallel port is totally compatible.  USB, PC card slots and 
Ethernet are standard.  There are later versions of the Gateway Profile 
line, some of these have the works in a big block in the base, not as 
good for big pendant retrofits.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?

2010-08-23 Thread Dean Hedin
You need to go to the manufacturer's website to see if they have a Linux
driver for their particular touch screen.

X does support some touch screens natively, Microtouch and ELO etc..

It's hit or miss with some of these imports.

And I don't see anything specific about drivers on lilliput's website.
Email them and ask them if they have a driver for linux or if they emulate
ELO or Microtouch protocol.

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From: Colin Kingsbury [mailto:ckingsb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 3:27 PM
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?

I'm looking at trying to build a homebrew version of a dedicated controller
with an integrated keyboard, MPG, and touchscreen. On the touchscreens, I've
been looking at some of the 7-8 units originally made for in-dash DVD
players, Lilliput seems to be a common name for the hardware and I've read
about touchkit as being the main driver for using these 4/5-wire
resistive-interface screens with Ubuntu. There seems to be a choice of
serial and USB interfaces.

Before I go out and buy a bunch of hardware that doesn't play well, does
anyone have any words of wisdom on what I should or shouldn't look at? For
reference, this is the sort of unit I'm thinking about:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lilliput-EBY701-NP-C-T-7-VGA-Touch-Screen-1-Year-Warr-/3
00444259217?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

* And yes, I realize a 7 screen will have lower resolution than my iPhone
4... I'm looking to build a panel with illuminated modal switches and
generally see about moving some stuff off the screen.

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Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?

2010-08-23 Thread Dean Hedin
Here's a 7 touch screen that does work in Linux
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12561

And here is how you make it work
http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:kiddshoptouchscreenunderxandros


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From: Colin Kingsbury [mailto:ckingsb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 3:27 PM
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?

I'm looking at trying to build a homebrew version of a dedicated controller
with an integrated keyboard, MPG, and touchscreen. On the touchscreens, I've
been looking at some of the 7-8 units originally made for in-dash DVD
players, Lilliput seems to be a common name for the hardware and I've read
about touchkit as being the main driver for using these 4/5-wire
resistive-interface screens with Ubuntu. There seems to be a choice of
serial and USB interfaces.

Before I go out and buy a bunch of hardware that doesn't play well, does
anyone have any words of wisdom on what I should or shouldn't look at? For
reference, this is the sort of unit I'm thinking about:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lilliput-EBY701-NP-C-T-7-VGA-Touch-Screen-1-Year-Warr-/3
00444259217?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

* And yes, I realize a 7 screen will have lower resolution than my iPhone
4... I'm looking to build a panel with illuminated modal switches and
generally see about moving some stuff off the screen.

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