Re: [Emc-users] My New D519MO Motherboard does not load EMC 10.04.
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 16:00:42 -0400, you wrote: I have tried the USC diagnostics. They don't see the printer port also. Apparently the CMOS settings are not getting the printer port into EPP mode, or something, that is keeping everything from recognising the port while it is acting like a ECP printer port. Have you tried resetting the bios or loading latest bios revision? Steve Blackmore -- -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC controlled sniper robot
Il 07/10/2010 11:26, Mark Wendt ha scritto: 'Tis the beginnings of Skynet. Or maybe Cylons... ;-) mark :) and the password i guess it will be 'Joshua' ! -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC controlled sniper robot
Use a paintball gun instead? Fire paint balls at a wall and write your name :-) Les On 07/10/10 05:24, Bill J wrote: You may want to re-think advertising anything about actually building this, you're going to be in violation of a few BATFE regulations. They're not nice to people that violate their regulations. -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC controlled sniper robot
Leslie Newell wrote: Use a paintball gun instead? Fire paint balls at a wall and write your name :-) Obligatory Mythbusters link: http://videosift.com/video/MythBusters-CPU-vs-GPU-or-Paintball-Cannons-are-Cool As for actually building one, you don't need and probably don't want all of emc. You only need the motor control of HAL, and you can write a component (userspace even) that does all the calculations and then hits a trigger HAL pin. - Steve -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] retrofitting a maho
first i need to connect the indramat so i can start doing some tests, the rest is for later. but i'l start connecting the indramat, is there anything i should know in advance? any warnings? i don't want to ruin the servo amp or the boards... 2010/10/2 Ulf Dambacher i...@dambacher-retrofit.de: Am 02.10.2010 13:24, schrieb Peter Teurlings: Could you email me the full wiring? that would come in handy for my wiring. Do you know of any good software to draw wiring diagrams? Hi Peter Can you give me a Hint on what you need in detail? The full wiring plan of the mh700 is 40pages, the full wiring of the 2trm3 is DIN-A0, a puzzle of 16 pages. And the pinouts I sent you an excerpt of this. And that's the original wirings, not my retrofit. I have not yet done a clean rewrite of my hand-written wiring plan. But as a staring point: I removed the original philips breakout board and wired all outputs to my motenc. I used some finder relais to copy the original wiring of the gearbox motors. The gearbox logic consists of a glue module with a table showing gearbox settings for given spindle speeds and a classicladder logic for actually switching the gears. Software: I use eagle (http://www.cadsoft.de/). Cheap and works for platines, wiring diagrams and other things. bye Ulf -- --- Dr.-Ing. Ulf Dambacher Ingenieurbüro für Maschinenbau Ihr Experte für * Retrofit * Funktionserweiterung * Fehlerbeseitigung * Wartung bei Werkzeugmaschinen in Gebrauch Riedweidenstr. 9 79331 Köndringen Tel.+Fax: 07641 9379858 Mobil: 0170 9560075 www.dambacher-retrofit.de i...@dambacher-retrofit.de --- -- Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Met vriendelijke groet, Peter Teurlings peerkedemul...@gmail.com -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] free cad software
looks good. Thanks! 2010/10/6 noel noel.ro...@comcast.net: Everyone, I just heard about this from my local Solidworks dude. Definitely worth checking out. http://www.3ds.com/products/draftsight Noel Rodes Rogue Engineering -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Met vriendelijke groet, Peter Teurlings peerkedemul...@gmail.com -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC controlled sniper robot
I can then see a movie starring Bruce Willis as an international assasin targetting high figures in Chicago. Oh Wait - thats been done. Never mind... On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Stephen Wille Padnos spad...@sover.netwrote: Leslie Newell wrote: Use a paintball gun instead? Fire paint balls at a wall and write your name :-) Obligatory Mythbusters link: http://videosift.com/video/MythBusters-CPU-vs-GPU-or-Paintball-Cannons-are-Cool As for actually building one, you don't need and probably don't want all of emc. You only need the motor control of HAL, and you can write a component (userspace even) that does all the calculations and then hits a trigger HAL pin. - Steve -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My New D519MO Motherboard does not load EMC 10.04.
Don is this for a D519MO board or a D510MO board??? If it is a D510MO board, then change the subject line. I have a D510MO board right here and would be happy to try some things out but I thought you had some newfangled D519 board that I never heard of . Then I saw D510MO in the text... Dave On 10/6/2010 4:00 PM, Don Stanley wrote: Thanks Igor; I have tried the USC diagnostics. They don't see the printer port also. Apparently the CMOS settings are not getting the printer port into EPP mode, or something, that is keeping everything from recognising the port while it is acting like a ECP printer port. See Jon's last post and my response. Don On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Igor Chudovichu...@gmail.com wrote: Don, start with running Jon's program ppmcdiags. Do not try to diagnose it with EMC2. Start with 378 as the address. My feeling is that PPMC is not communicating with the host PC. i On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Don Stanleydstanley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Jon Elsonel...@pico-systems.com wrote: Don Stanley wrote: 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation NM10 Family LPC Controller (rev 01) Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 4f4d Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information? I think this means your parallel port is implemented off the ISA (old IBM PC bus) interface, and not on PCI. I sure don't see a PCI report for a printer port in the rest of the PCI list. You can do : more /proc/ioports and it will show a terse listing of port addresses, with lines like 0378-037a : parport0 037b-037f : parport0 note the second line for parport0 indicates that port is set for EPP mode, as the last 5 registers are part of the ECP/EPP feature. If yours only shows the first register group, that is an indication the EPP setting didn't take effect for some reason. Jon Thank Jon and all; I set the mode to EPP and cycled the power to make sure it took. more /proc/ioports shows: 02f8-02ff : serial 0378-037a : parport0 03c0-03df : vga+ I am getting the same error messages weather set EPP or ECP, from the begenning. The USC diagnostics see NOTHINGGgg!! understandably. I hope you, or someone has a fix for this! Of two new D510MO boards this is the only one left. The other is on it's way back for a non functioning USB. Are there are magic hidden CMOS settings affecting the printer other than 'printer enable' and 'EPP mode' on these motherboards? Don -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet
Re: [Emc-users] retrofitting a maho
Am 07.10.2010 13:18, schrieb Peter Teurlings: first i need to connect the indramat so i can start doing some tests, the rest is for later. but i'l start connecting the indramat, is there anything i should know in advance? any warnings? i don't want to ruin the servo amp or the boards... Hi Peter. Some Precautions i took: * Measure your DA output before connecting it to the amplifier - and connect the base 0V, too. * Set the max. DA output signals in HAL to 0.5V for security and set FERROR=1 and #MIN_FERROR - this will give a following error before the axis moves too fast. * make sure scale direction is the same as movement direction. * for each axis there is an emergency off switch just after the limit switch is hit. Make sure this circuit works. * I removed RF cables temporary to only enable one axis at a time. * I wired a 2,0m cable emergency stop button to keep by my keyboard. and last and best: Read the first page of the book: * Don't panic ! .-) /ulf -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Possible bugs in emcrsh and halrmt
Hello, There is a bug that causes emcrsh to crash. The steps to reproduce are: 1. Start emc with configuration that uses emcrsh 2. Open terminal 3. telnet localhost 5007 4. Hello EMC a a *5. set enable* After issuing command set enable without password the emcrsh crashed and connection is lost. And for halrmt: I am not sure if it's bug or I typed something wrong but loading emc configuration with option: loadusr halrmt -- --port 5006 -ini plasma-thc-sim.ini produces output: Starting EMC2... Unknown option '--' Unknown option '-p' Unknown option '-o' Unknown option '-r' Unknown option '-t' I think this also affects other options like username, connetpw, enablepw, etc. -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] My New D519MO Motherboard does not load EMC 10.04.
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: Pretty sure Pico Systems cards use EPP interface not ECP so I'd try that. The BIOS should give you the base address. Dont think lspci will list the parallel port as its not a PCI device on the D510 (it a LPC device I think) Has anyone tried the 7I43 board with this motherboard? Thanks, Matt -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC aborting on startup with Segmentation Fault
I appreciate your suggestion, Michael. Only one problem - I'm not using ANY proprietary drivers! If I go to System, Administration, Hardware Drivers, I come up with the message that no proprietary drivers are in use on this system. I may be misunderstanding what you want me to try. If my answer isn't what you're looking for, would you please spell it out for me? I'm not well-versed in the intricacies of Linux and can use any help you might be so kind as to provide. Are you implying that maybe there's an ATI driver compiled as part of EMC that I need somehow to disable? Thanks for your help! Dennis From: Micha? Geszkiewiczmic...@wp.pl Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC aborting on startup with Segmentation Fault To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID:4cab73fe.4010...@wp.pl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Try disabling ati binary drivers. Use only software emulation and see what happens. regards, Michael W dniu 05.10.2010 20:22, Dennis pisze: I've run into a problem that's driving me right over the edge!! I upgraded my desktop system to Ubuntu 10.04 (from 8.04). This is the system I use to prepare g-code for my CNC machine's control PC. I use only EMC2 simulation mode on my desktop to verify everything appears correct before I take the code down to the actual CNC machine. I used GIT to retrieve version 2.4.4 and compiled it with the simulation flag set. When I start EMC2 using SIM - AXIS, it aborts immediately with the following message: /home/user/emc2/scripts/emc: line 654: 9590 Segmentation fault $EMCDISPLAY -ini $INIFILE $EMCDISPLAYARGS $EXTRA_ARGS DMESG Output = [10400.374828] __ratelimit: 15 callbacks suppressed [10400.374832] axis[2680]: segfault at 4 ip 00c5def6 sp bf811490 error 4 in libGL.so.1.2[bf8000+a7000] The problem appears to be related to display, most likely AXIS, since other modes appear to work fine (i.e. servo simulation). Don't know if this is relevant, but my system uses two displays driven by a Radeon VE card. I AM STUMPED!! I've searched the forums and found reference to errors very much like this, but didn't find the solution posted anywhere!! If anyone has any suggestions at all, I'd be most grateful! Dennis -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] MPG handle controlled rigid tapping.
Stuart and friends; I have been thinking about this manual MPG rigid tapping and while its fairly straight forward on a normal 3 axis mill or 2 axis lathe there needs to be more for 5 axis applications. Strange that Stuart didn't mention it. I think it might require a new custom G M code that would lock motion to be perpendicular to the hole's plane. Pardon I'm hunting for the best way to describe this. A 5 axis machine with the tool tilted in the AB axis would define the hole plane to be perpendicular to the tool in 2 axis. This would define the movement of the spindle. The other issue being like Stuart mentioned, This will require a very high count encoder and a very strong and responsive spindle. This option is not for mediocre equipment. Now - I was told my uncles (my toy) Mori Seiki SV50 can do this, you must just switch to IPR vrs IPM and do a M19 G84 F. The 30hp spindle will allow a M03 S0001, and I dare you to try and stop that spindle even at 1 RPM. Its great to have plenty of overkill power on tap. (pardon the pun) Greg -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] MPG handle controlled rigid tapping.
Greg Bentzinger wrote: Stuart and friends; I have been thinking about this manual MPG rigid tapping and while its fairly straight forward on a normal 3 axis mill or 2 axis lathe there needs to be more for 5 axis applications. Strange that Stuart didn't mention it. I think the difference is that Stuart's 5-axis Cincinnatti has a quill for the Z axis, so the Z movement is always parallel to the spindle axis. That, of course, is NOT true on 5-axis machines with different construction. Certainly, Chris Radek's 5-axis desktop mill is an example. Proper kinematics solves this, but you have to be in world mode for it to work. I believe Chris has a video on Youtube with the machine drilling a hole at a compound angle. I THINK it can do this in manual, as well. Jon -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] MPG handle controlled rigid tapping.
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Greg Bentzinger skullwo...@yahoo.comwrote: Stuart and friends; I have been thinking about this manual MPG rigid tapping and while its fairly straight forward on a normal 3 axis mill or 2 axis lathe there needs to be more for 5 axis applications. Strange that Stuart didn't mention it. Yes that is VERY strange - I was thinking ! it. :) I think it might require a new custom G M code that would lock motion to be perpendicular to the hole's plane. Pardon I'm hunting for the best way to describe this. The G and M codes are functional in EMC2. Use the W axis and the Cinci will drill along the spindle at whatever angle the A and B are programmed. A 5 axis machine with the tool tilted in the AB axis would define the hole plane to be perpendicular to the tool in 2 axis. This would define the movement of the spindle. The Cinci does not have a quill - EMC2 moves XY and Z to simulate a W axis and moves the spindle along it's axis. The other issue being like Stuart mentioned, This will require a very high count encoder and a very strong and responsive spindle. This option is not for mediocre equipment. The encoder count must be high for the spindle to be useful as a C axis. I believe the Enshu spindle will NOT be useful as a C axis but it will be able to rigid tap with the MPG. I will move the spindle using the MPG and use EMC2 to drive the Z axis coordinated with the spindle. I have the spindle tuned in one configuration. It is very solid. Now - I was told my uncles (my toy) Mori Seiki SV50 can do this, you must just switch to IPR vrs IPM and do a M19 G84 F. What control does the SV50 have? I would like to see/try it. My 5 axis bridge (XYZ w/BC head) with Fanuc 15M will MPG drill along the spindle (simulating a W axis). It will MPG mill along the U and V axes as well. This requires no programming. The position of the BC head allows the control to orient the motion the the UVW axes. The UV motion has not proven useful. The drilling along the spindle axis is useful that is why I am wanting to MPG tap along the spindle. I have not tried tapping with the bridge. I see no way to control the spindle. I don't believe EMC2 will move the UVW axes with the MPG. I believe it is being worked on but I am not sure. Clarification would be greatly appreciated. The 30hp spindle will allow a M03 S0001, and I dare you to try and stop that spindle even at 1 RPM. Its great to have plenty of overkill power on tap. (pardon the pun) The Enshu spindle is 50 taper - 7.5KW (10 hp). The two speed gearbox allows it to generate a lot of torque in low gear. I have seen it mill a 6 inch X 10 inch window in a 6 inch thick plate of steel in one pass. We drilled an oversize hole through the plate (in a corner of the window) and used a 1 inch X 8 inch LOC roughing mill. It cut the full depth and dropped out the window in one pass. I think it will be strong enough and rigid enough to tap a hole with the MPG. Greg thanks Stuart -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- dos centavos -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] EMC2 machine updates
Gentlemen, We now have a shop full of EMC2 believers. I walked out into the shop this morning and all three EMC2 controlled machines were cutting steel parts. The Dahlih was making some blocks for a draw press. The Cinci was milling some steel plates and the Enshu was milling some steel blocks. I wanted to get some pictures of the Enshu cutting the blocks but 2 hours later when I went out with the camera the job was completed. The job did not have any tool changes so it was not a good candidate for a video. I don't know what is going on it next. I will get a video shortly. The Cinci is generating a lot of good feedback. One of our programmers said this is the best machine in the shop. One of my partners came in my office today to tell me the Cinci had circle interpolated a (I think) 4 inch hole within .0005 round. Neither man is easily impressed. I will get some pictures of the parts. We moved the Dahlih into the main shop. Clyde, the machinist that ran the Dahlih in the back shop, wanted us to move it to the main shop so he could run it there. Clyde is not a CNC operator. Clyde is a crochety old manual machinist. He likes the Dahlih. He was very skeptical at first. When he saw the keyboard (the gui is AXIS) he turned up his nose. His finger now fly over the keys. We have a small cell set up for him. A manual bridgeport, a manual lathe and the Dahlih. I would love to set an EMC2 controlled lathe in his cell. I have not worked on the GL again - yet - I will get to it shortly. EMC2 ROCKS thanks Stuart -- dos centavos -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 machine updates
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 22:39 -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, We now have a shop full of EMC2 believers. I walked out into the shop this morning and all three EMC2 controlled machines were cutting steel parts. The Dahlih was making some blocks for a draw press. The Cinci was milling some steel plates and the Enshu was milling some steel blocks. I wanted to get some pictures of the Enshu cutting the blocks but 2 hours later when I went out with the camera the job was completed. The job did not have any tool changes so it was not a good candidate for a video. I don't know what is going on it next. I will get a video shortly. The Cinci is generating a lot of good feedback. One of our programmers said this is the best machine in the shop. One of my partners came in my office today to tell me the Cinci had circle interpolated a (I think) 4 inch hole within .0005 round. Neither man is easily impressed. I will get some pictures of the parts. We moved the Dahlih into the main shop. Clyde, the machinist that ran the Dahlih in the back shop, wanted us to move it to the main shop so he could run it there. Clyde is not a CNC operator. Clyde is a crochety old manual machinist. He likes the Dahlih. He was very skeptical at first. When he saw the keyboard (the gui is AXIS) he turned up his nose. His finger now fly over the keys. We have a small cell set up for him. A manual bridgeport, a manual lathe and the Dahlih. I would love to set an EMC2 controlled lathe in his cell. I have not worked on the GL again - yet - I will get to it shortly. EMC2 ROCKS thanks Stuart Damn scary what good software will do. ;-) Dave -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 machine updates
EMC2 ROCKS Massive understatement! -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] setting tool lengths
Gentlemen, I have asked this before but with the EMC2 machines breeding in my shop I want to get this implemented. I want to have a variable (in the .var file?) that will allow me to set positive tool lengths using a tool set block on the table surface. I want to be able to match the tool lengths the machine sets to the tool lengths our tool set machine measures. The variable would be a constant that is compared to the axis position to calculate the tool length from the imaginary gage point. I have a 50 taper tool set standard I can put in the spindle to determine the gage point very accurately. Our 5 axis mills that have 5 axis tool length compensation need and use positive tool lengths in the TLO. I would like to have positive tool lengths on all machines just to be consistent. I will start working on this here unless someone (with much better programming skills - wink wink) has completed it. :) thanks Stuart -- dos centavos -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] setting tool lengths
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 10:53:04PM -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, I have asked this before but with the EMC2 machines breeding in my shop I want to get this implemented. I want to have a variable (in the .var file?) that will allow me to set positive tool lengths using a tool set block on the table surface. I want to be able to match the tool lengths the machine sets to the tool lengths our tool set machine measures. The variable would be a constant that is compared to the axis position to calculate the tool length from the imaginary gage point. I have a 50 taper tool set standard I can put in the spindle to determine the gage point very accurately. Our 5 axis mills that have 5 axis tool length compensation need and use positive tool lengths in the TLO. I would like to have positive tool lengths on all machines just to be consistent. I will start working on this here unless someone (with much better programming skills - wink wink) has completed it. :) I've thought about this too. I currently have G59.3 system on my mill set so the reference/zero length tool (probe length for me, gage line for you) is touching the table at Z=0. That way I can switch to G59.3, put a 123 or 246 block anywhere on the table, roll a .5 dowel pin between the tool and the block, and touch off the tool to 6.5 (if using an upright 246 block). Then I switch back to G54 or whatever. I think this procedure would do what you want too, if you just set the coordinate system right. It would be nice if you did not have to remember to switch systems though. It is easy to mess up. Maybe we need a separate system just for tool touch off, or maybe using G59.3 automatically under the covers is good enough. Either way, we'd have to make a new subcommand of G10 L10 Pn (not sure what format? L11?) that does the deed. Then (the hard part I think) is letting the user select which method in the gui (touch off tool relative to current work offset, or touch off tool relative to the specific special/G59.3 system). I'm hesitant to force one or the other - I usually use the table method, except when I can't. Sometimes I can't get to the table at all - so I probe the top of the workpiece, set G54 to 0 there, roll dowel between tool and workpiece, touch off tool (while still in G54) to 0.5. An easier way out would be to leave G10 L10 alone and change the behavior underneath to force relativity to a certain coordinate system based on an ini entry. Then we wouldn't have to touch the GUIs (but different emc machines would work obscurely and dangerously differently with no hint to the user). It's late - this is probably clear as mud. Chris -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] setting tool lengths
At the moment I like the idea of the .ini entry and forcing the user to do it one way for every machine. The tool set machine measurement can be typed into the TLO for the times when the tool set probe cannot be reached. I would then need to make/purchase a 40 taper tool set standard adapter for my tool set machine and all would be well. You are correct - it is late - time to sleep on it. -- dos centavos -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] setting tool lengths
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 23:18 -0500, Chris Radek wrote: On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 10:53:04PM -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, I have asked this before but with the EMC2 machines breeding in my shop I want to get this implemented. Don't put them so close together; inhibit breeding. ;-) Ok, so it is late and I can plead old-timers syndrome or something. I keep thinking about a gage ... basically a honed cylinder with a spring restrained piston and a couple of prox switches. The first switch is a warning and slows the approach velocity and the second marks the length. One can either bolt this to the mill bed or use magnets to affix it so positioning it on top a work piece would be possible. Gage all your tools against it using the reference tool as zero. Set it atop the workpiece and use the offset to get workpiece zero or use cradeks dowel method. It should not be too difficult to clone this across machines to make things consistent. Surface grinders do nice things. :-) In this off the wall thinking I have even considered a reverse version of the sensor system that mounts in the spindle and allows touch off plus offset to give top of workpiece. There must be a somewhat easier way but indeed it is late and I'm somewhat taxed for bright ideas. In the light of morning maybe something else will reveal itself but I don't hold out too much hope. Keep thinking, it is the only hope we have. Dave I want to have a variable (in the .var file?) that will allow me to set positive tool lengths using a tool set block on the table surface. I want to be able to match the tool lengths the machine sets to the tool lengths our tool set machine measures. The variable would be a constant that is compared to the axis position to calculate the tool length from the imaginary gage point. I have a 50 taper tool set standard I can put in the spindle to determine the gage point very accurately. Our 5 axis mills that have 5 axis tool length compensation need and use positive tool lengths in the TLO. I would like to have positive tool lengths on all machines just to be consistent. I will start working on this here unless someone (with much better programming skills - wink wink) has completed it. :) I've thought about this too. I currently have G59.3 system on my mill set so the reference/zero length tool (probe length for me, gage line for you) is touching the table at Z=0. That way I can switch to G59.3, put a 123 or 246 block anywhere on the table, roll a .5 dowel pin between the tool and the block, and touch off the tool to 6.5 (if using an upright 246 block). Then I switch back to G54 or whatever. I think this procedure would do what you want too, if you just set the coordinate system right. It would be nice if you did not have to remember to switch systems though. It is easy to mess up. Maybe we need a separate system just for tool touch off, or maybe using G59.3 automatically under the covers is good enough. Either way, we'd have to make a new subcommand of G10 L10 Pn (not sure what format? L11?) that does the deed. Then (the hard part I think) is letting the user select which method in the gui (touch off tool relative to current work offset, or touch off tool relative to the specific special/G59.3 system). I'm hesitant to force one or the other - I usually use the table method, except when I can't. Sometimes I can't get to the table at all - so I probe the top of the workpiece, set G54 to 0 there, roll dowel between tool and workpiece, touch off tool (while still in G54) to 0.5. An easier way out would be to leave G10 L10 alone and change the behavior underneath to force relativity to a certain coordinate system based on an ini entry. Then we wouldn't have to touch the GUIs (but different emc machines would work obscurely and dangerously differently with no hint to the user). It's late - this is probably clear as mud. Chris -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
