Re: [Emc-users] Stepconf wizard issue EMC 2.4.5

2011-01-07 Thread kqt4at5v
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, BRIAN GLACKIN wrote:

> Files attached.
>
> I had to change my leadscrew to 20 in order to get it to move the correct
> distances.
>
> Leadscrew is actually a 10-1 acme.
>

I had to change the dip switch on the driver board to match the micro step I 
set in stepconf

Richard

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Re: [Emc-users] Stepconf wizard issue EMC 2.4.5

2011-01-07 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
DOH

I was trying to do these changes with my wife asking me to reorganize the
basement at the same time..

I will move the jumpers when I get home and all will be good.


Brian



On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Chris Morley wrote:

>
> Brian its not clear to me - did you change stepconf and your step driver
> from 8 micro steps to 4 or just stepconf?
> The micro step setting must match the setting of your step driver.
>
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[Emc-users] Changing the range of Max Velocity in AXIS

2011-01-07 Thread James Louis
Happy belated new year everybody.

On EMC2.4.6 using the Axis interface on a machine that has linear and angular 
axes, how can I change the range of the slider labeled "Max Velocity"?  The 
other sliders, like Max Angular Velocity or Min Linear Velocity,  are all 
configured in the INI file > Display section.  I tried adding a line in that 
section containing MAX_VELOCITY = "different values" but the slider remains 
stuck at 150 IPM no matter what I try.

Alternately is there a way to delete this slider so G-code (F word) always 
determines the feed rates without capping them?

Any help is certainly appreciated.
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Re: [Emc-users] ubuntu lucid 10.10 64bit and emc

2011-01-07 Thread N Z




Dear all,
I had to get a new computer for my CNC hobby and since I will be using the new 
machine also for other tasks i bought i relatively high spec (at least for me 
:-)) machine:

Processor:AMD Athlon II X4 640, 3.0GHz, AM3, 4C/4TRAM:4 GB, DDR3-1333
Motherboard:M4A78LT-M, mATXChipset:AMD 760G/SB710Graphic:Integrated ATI Radeon 
3000 (shared)just added a pci lpt card

Now i have ventured out to try installing ubuntu 10.10_64bit and theb try to 
run emc2 on it.
The install of ubuntu has worked like a charm and everything seems to be 
supported.

Since then I have mainly followed this guide ->Ubuntu10.04Notes
and executed the following commands:

sudo apt-get install fakeroot build-essential crash kexec-tools makedumpfile 
kernel-wedge
sudo apt-get build-dep linux
sudo apt-get install git-core libncurses5 libncurses5-dev binutils-dev 
libelf-dev asciidoc xmlto
git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git ubuntu-lucid
cd ubuntu-lucid
git branch rtai
git checkout rtai
fdr clean
fdr startnewrelease

Then my old display (the one from the dead computer) gave up on me and I had to 
buy a new screen first.
Now i am back and I can see myself typing again ;-) 
The next command would be 

patch -p1 < hal-linux-2.6.xx.x-x86-x.x-xx.patch

but here i think i should take the patch for amd64, no?


Thanks for helping me out here as I am still a bit "green behind the ears" with 
linux in general.

Also if you see any obvious reason why i shouldn't be doing this at all, please 
let me know :-) 
as i have not put so much thought into this.

Thanks
Nik
  
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Re: [Emc-users] ubuntu lucid 10.10 64bit and emc

2011-01-07 Thread Eric Keller
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:40 PM, N Z  wrote:
> Dear all,
> I had to get a new computer for my CNC hobby and since I will be using the 
> new machine also for other tasks i bought i relatively high spec (at least 
> for me :-)) machine:

> Thanks for helping me out here as I am still a bit "green behind the ears" 
> with linux in general.
>
> Also if you see any obvious reason why i shouldn't be doing this at all, 
> please let me know :-)
> as i have not put so much thought into this.
>
> Thanks
> Nik
The most obvious reason not to do this is that the 32 bit version of
EMC will work fine.  Just install a dual boot system.   My desktop is
set up that way, it will boot into EMC if I ask it to.  The latency is
very good.  I assume that someday there will be a 64 bit version of
EMC, but it is a non-trivial task to build a real-time kernel that is
stable.  And that is true for people that have done it a number of
times.   So for someone that is new to linux, it may not work out well
at all.

To be perfectly honest about it, I don't think having a 64 bit version
of Ubuntu has been worth it just to allow it to use more memory.
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Re: [Emc-users] ubuntu lucid 10.10 64bit and emc

2011-01-07 Thread Igor Chudov
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Eric Keller  wrote:

>
> To be perfectly honest about it, I don't think having a 64 bit version
> of Ubuntu has been worth it just to allow it to use more memory.
> Eric
>
>
Actually, you can have a computer with, say, 16 GB of memory and run a 32
bit Ubuntu.

I do just that, and it works great. It is called PAE.

What I am not so sure about, is whether the RT kernel supports PAE.

My EMC computer on the Bridgeport mill has 4 GB of RAM and that is by far
sufficient to run EMC, watch youtube and edit stuff with xemacs at the same
time.

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Re: [Emc-users] ubuntu lucid 10.10 64bit and emc

2011-01-07 Thread Igor Chudov
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Eric Keller  wrote:

>
> To be perfectly honest about it, I don't think having a 64 bit version
> of Ubuntu has been worth it just to allow it to use more memory.
> Eric
>
>
Actually, you can have a computer with, say, 16 GB of memory and run a 32
bit Ubuntu.

I do just that, and it works great. It is called PAE.

What I am not so sure about, is whether the RT kernel supports PAE.

My EMC computer on the Bridgeport mill has 4 GB of RAM and that is by far
sufficient to run EMC, watch youtube and edit stuff with xemacs at the same
time.

i
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Re: [Emc-users] ubuntu lucid 10.10 64bit and emc

2011-01-07 Thread N Z



> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:45:15 -0500
> From: eekel...@psu.edu
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] ubuntu lucid 10.10 64bit and emc
> 
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:40 PM, N Z  wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > I had to get a new computer for my CNC hobby and since I will be using the 
> > new machine also for other tasks i bought i relatively high spec (at least 
> > for me :-)) machine:
> 
> > Thanks for helping me out here as I am still a bit "green behind the ears" 
> > with linux in general.
> >
> > Also if you see any obvious reason why i shouldn't be doing this at all, 
> > please let me know :-)
> > as i have not put so much thought into this.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Nik
> The most obvious reason not to do this is that the 32 bit version of
> EMC will work fine.  Just install a dual boot system.   My desktop is
> set up that way, it will boot into EMC if I ask it to.  The latency is
> very good.  I assume that someday there will be a 64 bit version of
> EMC, but it is a non-trivial task to build a real-time kernel that is
> stable.  And that is true for people that have done it a number of
> times.   So for someone that is new to linux, it may not work out well
> at all.
> 
> To be perfectly honest about it, I don't think having a 64 bit version
> of Ubuntu has been worth it just to allow it to use more memory.
> Eric
> 

Dear Eric,
thanks for the fast reply. I already thought that currently there 
would not be any real gain by setting up the 64bit version, maybe a little
bit when transcoding movies or trying the new CAELinux 2010 (my old comp was 
too low spec).

I mainly went for it because i never had a 64bit system on any of 
my computers so far ;-) and it seemed like a good opportunity to try...

I will still try a little but if things turn bad i will as you suggest install
the 32bit version as this seems to be the most reasonable thing to do at the 
moment...
Nik






  
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Re: [Emc-users] ubuntu lucid 10.10 64bit and emc

2011-01-07 Thread Jon Elson
N Z wrote:
>
>   
> Dear Eric,
> thanks for the fast reply. I already thought that currently there 
> would not be any real gain by setting up the 64bit version, maybe a little
> bit when transcoding movies or trying the new CAELinux 2010 (my old comp was 
> too low spec).
>
> I mainly went for it because i never had a 64bit system on any of 
> my computers so far ;-) and it seemed like a good opportunity to try...
>
> I will still try a little but if things turn bad i will as you suggest install
> the 32bit version as this seems to be the most reasonable thing to do at the 
> moment...
>   
Movies are probably not going to benefit any.  The ONLY thing a 64-bit 
system does for you is it allows a SINGLE application to use more than 2 
GB of memory in one address space.  Huge SQL databases, huge CAD surface 
models and computational fluid dynamics are the places where you run 
into this.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] ubuntu lucid 10.10 64bit and emc

2011-01-07 Thread Igor Chudov
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Jon Elson  wrote:

> Movies are probably not going to benefit any.  The ONLY thing a 64-bit
> system does for you is it allows a SINGLE application to use more than 2
> GB of memory in one address space.


More than 3 GB


 Huge SQL databases, huge CAD surface
> models and computational fluid dynamics are the places where you run
> into this.
>
> For SQL databases, the OS caching could help beyond 3 GB.

I agree with everything else, usefulness of 64 bit has been overrated and I
find more bugs on 64 bit systems.

Hopefully it will change in a few years, with memory getting cheaper and
bugs getting fixed.

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[Emc-users] HAL Documentation: canonical encoder, linksp, linkps, newsig

2011-01-07 Thread Javier Ros
Hello,

I think that the Chapter 4  Canonical Device Interfaces
lacks a section about the canonical encoder, as I've seen it referenced
elsewhere.

Am I right?

Also, I've not seen any reference to "linksp linkps and newsig" that are
used in some .hal files
of example configurations of current version.

I suppose they are obsolete, although supported, and that their
functionality is intended to be replaced
with net.

Am I right?

Also about "=>" or "<=" in "net" commands: I understand from the examples
that they are optional, but
 I think that this is not reflected in the manual.

Thank you,

Javier
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Re: [Emc-users] ubuntu lucid 10.10 64bit and emc

2011-01-07 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Jon Elson  wrote:
>
>   
>> Movies are probably not going to benefit any.  The ONLY thing a 64-bit
>> system does for you is it allows a SINGLE application to use more than 2
>> GB of memory in one address space.
>> 
>
>
> More than 3 GB
>
>
>  Huge SQL databases, huge CAD surface
>   
>> models and computational fluid dynamics are the places where you run
>> into this.
>>
>> For SQL databases, the OS caching could help beyond 3 GB.
>> 
>
> I agree with everything else, usefulness of 64 bit has been overrated and I
> find more bugs on 64 bit systems.
>
> Hopefully it will change in a few years, with memory getting cheaper and
> bugs getting fixed.
>   
Also, certain software requires different licenses to run on a 64-bit 
OS, and there are also export
restrictions.  It certainly does nothing for any of the work I do, 
although others working in the
same fields that do bigger projects may need it.


Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] HAL Documentation: canonical encoder, linksp, linkps, newsig

2011-01-07 Thread Jon Elson
Javier Ros wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I think that the Chapter 4  Canonical Device Interfaces
> lacks a section about the canonical encoder, as I've seen it referenced
> elsewhere.
>
> Am I right?
>   
Yes, something happened over a year ago, and at least a whole page 
disappeared from the document.
You can go back to a 2009, or possibly 2008 version and there is much 
more info there.
Hopefully, John Thornton or somebody can go and put this back.
> Also, I've not seen any reference to "linksp linkps and newsig" that are
> used in some .hal files
> of example configurations of current version.
>   
newsig, linksp and the inverse are obsolete, but still supported.  In 
the original HAL, you had to define
the signal on one line, and then link each pin to the signal on a 
separate line.  Now, the net
command is preferred, where the definition and pins can all be on one line.

> I suppose they are obsolete, although supported, and that their
> functionality is intended to be replaced
> with net.
>   
Yes, exactly.
> Also about "=>" or "<=" in "net" commands: I understand from the examples
> that they are optional, but
>   
Yes, they are optional, and have no meaning except for human clarification.

Jon


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Re: [Emc-users] ubuntu lucid 10.10 64bit and emc

2011-01-07 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Jon Elson  wrote:

> Movies are probably not going to benefit any.  The ONLY thing a 64-bit
> system does for you is it allows a SINGLE application to use more than 2
> GB of memory in one address space.  Huge SQL databases, huge CAD surface
> models and computational fluid dynamics are the places where you run
> into this.

Well, actually, 64-bit mode has a small but measurable speed
advantage, simply because the CPU has better architectural features
(more registers, new instructions, etc) in the 64-bit mode. The
speedup varies (and is sometimes negative) but people reported
benchmarks from 20% faster to 20% slower, depending on the task:

http://64-bit-computers.com/linux-ubuntu-610-64-bit-vs-32-bit-benchmark-test.html

At the same time, 64-bit architecture is still 'new' as far as
software is concerned: since the datatypes changed, we are through
another 'not all the world is a VAX' transition, with software bugs
and incompatibilities; e.g. AFAIK, Adobe still doesn't have a 64-bit
flash player. So, I agree that 32-bit is the safe choice.

This email is typed on a 32-bit Linux machine, but I am using a 64-bit
Linux at work.

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