Re: [Emc-users] Help, out of inputs on my parport

2013-02-05 Thread kqt4at5v
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Kip wrote:

 Greetings all!  My shift registers seem to be working well as a cheap
 and easy port expander!   Apologies for how long it took me to write it
 up, but we are currently in the middle of the FIRST Robotics Challenge
 build season, so I'm spending almost every evening mentoring high school
 students.

 I've attached a schematic of the circuit used.  Notice it creates 16
 output and 16 input lines using only 3 output and 1 input pin on the
 parallel port.

 I also attached the .comp file to drive it.  It count base-thread ticks
 for timing.  I have it configured to update every 1 ms with my system,
 but this is configurable.  While 1 ms is too slow for micro-stepping, it
 is plenty fast enough to detect the pulses from my cooling fan
 tachometers, turning pumps on and off, reading control panel buttons,
 and blinking status LEDs.

 The complete write-up can be found here:

 http://www.shafferhouse.org/linuxcnc/LinuxCNCShiftRegisters.pdf

 It goes into a lot of detail that is probably too basic for most of the
 readers of this list, but please let me know if there are things you
 would like me to add.


can someone suggest a source for the 74ls595 and 74ls597

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Re: [Emc-users] Help, out of inputs on my parport

2013-02-05 Thread Ralph Stirling
Digikey.com .  You also might consider 74HC595, 74HC497, or
74AHC595 and 74AHC597.

-- Ralph

From: kqt4a...@gmail.com [kqt4a...@gmail.com]
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Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Help, out of inputs on my parport

On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Kip wrote:

 Greetings all!  My shift registers seem to be working well as a cheap
 and easy port expander!   Apologies for how long it took me to write it
 up, but we are currently in the middle of the FIRST Robotics Challenge
 build season, so I'm spending almost every evening mentoring high school
 students.

 I've attached a schematic of the circuit used.  Notice it creates 16
 output and 16 input lines using only 3 output and 1 input pin on the
 parallel port.

 I also attached the .comp file to drive it.  It count base-thread ticks
 for timing.  I have it configured to update every 1 ms with my system,
 but this is configurable.  While 1 ms is too slow for micro-stepping, it
 is plenty fast enough to detect the pulses from my cooling fan
 tachometers, turning pumps on and off, reading control panel buttons,
 and blinking status LEDs.

 The complete write-up can be found here:

 http://www.shafferhouse.org/linuxcnc/LinuxCNCShiftRegisters.pdf

 It goes into a lot of detail that is probably too basic for most of the
 readers of this list, but please let me know if there are things you
 would like me to add.


can someone suggest a source for the 74ls595 and 74ls597

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Re: [Emc-users] Help, out of inputs on my parport

2013-02-05 Thread Erik Friesen
Or mouser.
http://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Logic-ICs/Counter-Shift-Registers/_/N-55d4h?Keyword=74hct595FS=True
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/NXP-Semiconductors/74HC595N112/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtsbn1GaJyslyeJrXytowv1%2fYsIv18i%2fyU%3d


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Ralph Stirling 
ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu wrote:

 Digikey.com .  You also might consider 74HC595, 74HC497, or
 74AHC595 and 74AHC597.

 -- Ralph
 
 From: kqt4a...@gmail.com [kqt4a...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:05 AM
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Help, out of inputs on my parport

 On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Kip wrote:

  Greetings all!  My shift registers seem to be working well as a cheap
  and easy port expander!   Apologies for how long it took me to write it
  up, but we are currently in the middle of the FIRST Robotics Challenge
  build season, so I'm spending almost every evening mentoring high school
  students.
 
  I've attached a schematic of the circuit used.  Notice it creates 16
  output and 16 input lines using only 3 output and 1 input pin on the
  parallel port.
 
  I also attached the .comp file to drive it.  It count base-thread ticks
  for timing.  I have it configured to update every 1 ms with my system,
  but this is configurable.  While 1 ms is too slow for micro-stepping, it
  is plenty fast enough to detect the pulses from my cooling fan
  tachometers, turning pumps on and off, reading control panel buttons,
  and blinking status LEDs.
 
  The complete write-up can be found here:
 
  http://www.shafferhouse.org/linuxcnc/LinuxCNCShiftRegisters.pdf
 
  It goes into a lot of detail that is probably too basic for most of the
  readers of this list, but please let me know if there are things you
  would like me to add.
 

 can someone suggest a source for the 74ls595 and 74ls597


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[Emc-users] Help, out of inputs on my parport

2013-02-05 Thread Roland Jollivet
On 5 February 2013 16:11, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.eduwrote:

 Digikey.com .  You also might consider 74HC595, 74HC497, or
 74AHC595 and 74AHC597.

 -- Ralph


Don't use 74HC  parts. Use 74HCT as these are TTL compatible. HC parts need
to be driven closer to the rail, and often don't switch unless driven by
CMOS chips.

Otherwise find a similar part in the CD4xxx series. They switch at Vcc/2.

Regards
Roland
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Re: [Emc-users] Help, out of inputs on my parport

2013-02-05 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013, Roland Jollivet wrote:

 On 5 February 2013 16:11, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.eduwrote:

 Digikey.com .  You also might consider 74HC595, 74HC497, or
 74AHC595 and 74AHC597.

 -- Ralph


 Don't use 74HC  parts. Use 74HCT as these are TTL compatible. HC parts need
 to be driven closer to the rail, and often don't switch unless driven by
 CMOS chips.

 Otherwise find a similar part in the CD4xxx series. They switch at Vcc/2.


great i see 74HCT597N for $0.70 and 74HCT595N for $0.80 on mouser
the ls 74ls59[57] are $10.00 each
does the type of inverter matter

thanks
richard

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Re: [Emc-users] Help, out of inputs on my parport

2013-02-05 Thread Kip Shaffer
I would imagine that the LS chips are expensive because they are obsolete.
 I used them because they were in my junk drawer.  I would recommend using
the HCT series.

I see that the pin names have changed a bit from the old datasheets.

STCP = Storage Register Clock, I referred to as 'Latch', formerly 'RCLK'
SHCP = Shift register clock, formerly 'SRClock'
DS = Serial data Input, formerly 'Ser'
PL = Parallel Load, formerly 'SRLoad'


-Kip


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:33 PM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 5 Feb 2013, Roland Jollivet wrote:

  On 5 February 2013 16:11, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu
 wrote:
 
  Digikey.com .  You also might consider 74HC595, 74HC497, or
  74AHC595 and 74AHC597.
 
  -- Ralph
 
 
  Don't use 74HC  parts. Use 74HCT as these are TTL compatible. HC parts
 need
  to be driven closer to the rail, and often don't switch unless driven by
  CMOS chips.
 
  Otherwise find a similar part in the CD4xxx series. They switch at Vcc/2.
 

 great i see 74HCT597N for $0.70 and 74HCT595N for $0.80 on mouser
 the ls 74ls59[57] are $10.00 each
 does the type of inverter matter

 thanks
 richard


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[Emc-users] Help, out of inputs on my parport

2013-02-05 Thread Roland Jollivet
On 5 February 2013 20:33, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 5 Feb 2013, Roland Jollivet wrote:

  On 5 February 2013 16:11, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu
 wrote:
 
  Digikey.com .  You also might consider 74HC595, 74HC497, or
  74AHC595 and 74AHC597.
 
  -- Ralph
 
 
  Don't use 74HC  parts. Use 74HCT as these are TTL compatible. HC parts
 need
  to be driven closer to the rail, and often don't switch unless driven by
  CMOS chips.
 
  Otherwise find a similar part in the CD4xxx series. They switch at Vcc/2.
 

 great i see 74HCT597N for $0.70 and 74HCT595N for $0.80 on mouser
 the ls 74ls59[57] are $10.00 each
 does the type of inverter matter

 thanks
 richard



Probably just use the 74HCT04.  Any which way you'll end up using a 14pin.
You could use the remaining inverters as buffers.

And these look cheaper. I didn't look at the MOQ's  ;
http://www.futurlec.com/IC74HCT00Series.shtml
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