Re: [Emc-users] openscad to normal gcode converter?

[Dave Matthews]

You need more than STEP, dxf and stl?  Those are all still in the free
version.

Dave

On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 2:02 PM Eric Keller  wrote:

> The free version of Fusion360 now has very limited file import and export
> capabilities.  They are trying to make it unusable without making it
> unusable.
> Eric Keller
> Boalsburg, Pennsylvania
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 5:20 PM andy pugh  wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 at 21:15, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> >
> > > But fusion is no longer free.
> >
> > It's still fairly free if you don't need 5-axis toolpaths etc.
> >
> > https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] openscad to normal gcode converter?

[Eric Keller]

The free version of Fusion360 now has very limited file import and export
capabilities.  They are trying to make it unusable without making it
unusable.
Eric Keller
Boalsburg, Pennsylvania

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 5:20 PM andy pugh  wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 at 21:15, Gene Heskett  wrote:
>
> > But fusion is no longer free.
>
> It's still fairly free if you don't need 5-axis toolpaths etc.
>
> https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal
>
> --
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> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> lunatics."
> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
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Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

[Sam Sokolik]

no - one way (current way with the 200 spline stationary with the stepper)
the stepper goes the same direction as the face plate.  The with the
outside splines swapped - stepper goes the opposite direction of the face
plate.

On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 12:08 PM John Dammeyer 
wrote:

> In both cases the direction is the same?  Like in real life?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: March-22-21 9:48 AM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?
> >
> > Makes sense.. :)
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:37 AM John Dammeyer 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Using the math from that link below
> > > (202-200)/200=0.01 ==> inverted is 100:1.
> > >
> > > Done the other way...  If that's possible then
> > > (202-200)/202 = 0.0099009900... ==> inverted is 101:1
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: March-22-21 6:19 AM
> > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?
> > > >
> > > > 202,200 for the outside spline and the flex gear is 200.  In this
> > > situation
> > > > - the 202 tooth spline is stationary to the stepper.  The 200 tooth
> > > outside
> > > > spline is mounted to the faceplate.  In this layout - the ratio
> apears to
> > > > be 101:1
> > > >
> > > > In this situation the stepper motor and the face plate spin the same
> > > > direction.
> > > >
> > > > With the same set of outside spines swapped - the ratio is 100:1
> > > >
> > > > I am sure Andy can explain it.  It doesn't make sense to me.
> > > >
> > > > Happy with runout...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLyP2YwdstQ
> > > >
> > > > sam
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 12:58 AM John Dammeyer <
> jo...@autoartisans.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> > > > > > So.   interesting..   I just swapped the gears..  Before my
> > > ratio was
> > > > > > 100:1.   Input scale was 1600step/rev * 100 = 16/360 =
> > > 444.444
> > > > > > input scale.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now I reversed the outside splines.   I thought - wow - I must be
> > > losing
> > > > > > steps - but i would aways come back to zero.   Finally though -
> > > maybe the
> > > > > > ratio was now 102:1 - no.  over shot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so the final solution seems to be 101:1  WTH?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sam
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Sam,
> > > > > I found this at:
> > > > > https://www.engineeringclicks.com/harmonic-drive/
> > > > >
> > > > > "The rate of rotation is dependent on the rotation of the input
> shaft
> > > and
> > > > > the difference in the number of teeth between the flex spline and
> the
> > > > > circular spline. The flex spline has fewer teeth than the circular
> > > spline,
> > > > > so it can rotate at a much reduced ratio and in the opposite
> direction
> > > than
> > > > > that of the input shaft. The reduction ration is given by: (number
> of
> > > flex
> > > > > spline teeth ? number of circular spline teeth) / number of flex
> spline
> > > > > teeth. So for example, if the flex spline has 100 teeth and the
> > > circular
> > > > > spline has 105, the reduction ratio is (100 ? 105) / 100 = -0.05
> which
> > > > > means that the flex spline ration is -5/100 (minus indicates the
> > > opposite
> > > > > direction of spin). The difference in the number of teeth can be
> > > changed to
> > > > > accommodate different reduction ratios and thus different
> specialized
> > > needs
> > > > > and requirements."
> > > > >
> > > > > So how many teeth have you on the fixed verses flex gear?  And did
> you
> > > by
> > > > > chance miscount?
> > > > > John Dammeyer
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

[John Dammeyer]

In both cases the direction is the same?  Like in real life?

> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> Sent: March-22-21 9:48 AM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?
> 
> Makes sense.. :)
> 
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:37 AM John Dammeyer 
> wrote:
> 
> > Using the math from that link below
> > (202-200)/200=0.01 ==> inverted is 100:1.
> >
> > Done the other way...  If that's possible then
> > (202-200)/202 = 0.0099009900... ==> inverted is 101:1
> >
> > John
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: March-22-21 6:19 AM
> > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?
> > >
> > > 202,200 for the outside spline and the flex gear is 200.  In this
> > situation
> > > - the 202 tooth spline is stationary to the stepper.  The 200 tooth
> > outside
> > > spline is mounted to the faceplate.  In this layout - the ratio apears to
> > > be 101:1
> > >
> > > In this situation the stepper motor and the face plate spin the same
> > > direction.
> > >
> > > With the same set of outside spines swapped - the ratio is 100:1
> > >
> > > I am sure Andy can explain it.  It doesn't make sense to me.
> > >
> > > Happy with runout...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLyP2YwdstQ
> > >
> > > sam
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 12:58 AM John Dammeyer 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> > > > > So.   interesting..   I just swapped the gears..  Before my
> > ratio was
> > > > > 100:1.   Input scale was 1600step/rev * 100 = 16/360 =
> > 444.444
> > > > > input scale.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I reversed the outside splines.   I thought - wow - I must be
> > losing
> > > > > steps - but i would aways come back to zero.   Finally though -
> > maybe the
> > > > > ratio was now 102:1 - no.  over shot.
> > > > >
> > > > > so the final solution seems to be 101:1  WTH?
> > > > >
> > > > > sam
> > > >
> > > > Hi Sam,
> > > > I found this at:
> > > > https://www.engineeringclicks.com/harmonic-drive/
> > > >
> > > > "The rate of rotation is dependent on the rotation of the input shaft
> > and
> > > > the difference in the number of teeth between the flex spline and the
> > > > circular spline. The flex spline has fewer teeth than the circular
> > spline,
> > > > so it can rotate at a much reduced ratio and in the opposite direction
> > than
> > > > that of the input shaft. The reduction ration is given by: (number of
> > flex
> > > > spline teeth ? number of circular spline teeth) / number of flex spline
> > > > teeth. So for example, if the flex spline has 100 teeth and the
> > circular
> > > > spline has 105, the reduction ratio is (100 ? 105) / 100 = -0.05 which
> > > > means that the flex spline ration is -5/100 (minus indicates the
> > opposite
> > > > direction of spin). The difference in the number of teeth can be
> > changed to
> > > > accommodate different reduction ratios and thus different specialized
> > needs
> > > > and requirements."
> > > >
> > > > So how many teeth have you on the fixed verses flex gear?  And did you
> > by
> > > > chance miscount?
> > > > John Dammeyer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

[Sam Sokolik]

Makes sense.. :)

On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:37 AM John Dammeyer 
wrote:

> Using the math from that link below
> (202-200)/200=0.01 ==> inverted is 100:1.
>
> Done the other way...  If that's possible then
> (202-200)/202 = 0.0099009900... ==> inverted is 101:1
>
> John
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: March-22-21 6:19 AM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?
> >
> > 202,200 for the outside spline and the flex gear is 200.  In this
> situation
> > - the 202 tooth spline is stationary to the stepper.  The 200 tooth
> outside
> > spline is mounted to the faceplate.  In this layout - the ratio apears to
> > be 101:1
> >
> > In this situation the stepper motor and the face plate spin the same
> > direction.
> >
> > With the same set of outside spines swapped - the ratio is 100:1
> >
> > I am sure Andy can explain it.  It doesn't make sense to me.
> >
> > Happy with runout...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLyP2YwdstQ
> >
> > sam
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 12:58 AM John Dammeyer 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> > > > So.   interesting..   I just swapped the gears..  Before my
> ratio was
> > > > 100:1.   Input scale was 1600step/rev * 100 = 16/360 =
> 444.444
> > > > input scale.
> > > >
> > > > Now I reversed the outside splines.   I thought - wow - I must be
> losing
> > > > steps - but i would aways come back to zero.   Finally though -
> maybe the
> > > > ratio was now 102:1 - no.  over shot.
> > > >
> > > > so the final solution seems to be 101:1  WTH?
> > > >
> > > > sam
> > >
> > > Hi Sam,
> > > I found this at:
> > > https://www.engineeringclicks.com/harmonic-drive/
> > >
> > > "The rate of rotation is dependent on the rotation of the input shaft
> and
> > > the difference in the number of teeth between the flex spline and the
> > > circular spline. The flex spline has fewer teeth than the circular
> spline,
> > > so it can rotate at a much reduced ratio and in the opposite direction
> than
> > > that of the input shaft. The reduction ration is given by: (number of
> flex
> > > spline teeth � number of circular spline teeth) / number of flex spline
> > > teeth. So for example, if the flex spline has 100 teeth and the
> circular
> > > spline has 105, the reduction ratio is (100 � 105) / 100 = -0.05 which
> > > means that the flex spline ration is -5/100 (minus indicates the
> opposite
> > > direction of spin). The difference in the number of teeth can be
> changed to
> > > accommodate different reduction ratios and thus different specialized
> needs
> > > and requirements."
> > >
> > > So how many teeth have you on the fixed verses flex gear?  And did you
> by
> > > chance miscount?
> > > John Dammeyer
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

[John Dammeyer]

Using the math from that link below 
(202-200)/200=0.01 ==> inverted is 100:1.

Done the other way...  If that's possible then
(202-200)/202 = 0.0099009900... ==> inverted is 101:1

John

> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> Sent: March-22-21 6:19 AM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?
> 
> 202,200 for the outside spline and the flex gear is 200.  In this situation
> - the 202 tooth spline is stationary to the stepper.  The 200 tooth outside
> spline is mounted to the faceplate.  In this layout - the ratio apears to
> be 101:1
> 
> In this situation the stepper motor and the face plate spin the same
> direction.
> 
> With the same set of outside spines swapped - the ratio is 100:1
> 
> I am sure Andy can explain it.  It doesn't make sense to me.
> 
> Happy with runout...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLyP2YwdstQ
> 
> sam
> 
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 12:58 AM John Dammeyer 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> > > So.   interesting..   I just swapped the gears..  Before my ratio was
> > > 100:1.   Input scale was 1600step/rev * 100 = 16/360 = 444.444
> > > input scale.
> > >
> > > Now I reversed the outside splines.   I thought - wow - I must be losing
> > > steps - but i would aways come back to zero.   Finally though - maybe the
> > > ratio was now 102:1 - no.  over shot.
> > >
> > > so the final solution seems to be 101:1  WTH?
> > >
> > > sam
> >
> > Hi Sam,
> > I found this at:
> > https://www.engineeringclicks.com/harmonic-drive/
> >
> > "The rate of rotation is dependent on the rotation of the input shaft and
> > the difference in the number of teeth between the flex spline and the
> > circular spline. The flex spline has fewer teeth than the circular spline,
> > so it can rotate at a much reduced ratio and in the opposite direction than
> > that of the input shaft. The reduction ration is given by: (number of flex
> > spline teeth � number of circular spline teeth) / number of flex spline
> > teeth. So for example, if the flex spline has 100 teeth and the circular
> > spline has 105, the reduction ratio is (100 � 105) / 100 = -0.05 which
> > means that the flex spline ration is -5/100 (minus indicates the opposite
> > direction of spin). The difference in the number of teeth can be changed to
> > accommodate different reduction ratios and thus different specialized needs
> > and requirements."
> >
> > So how many teeth have you on the fixed verses flex gear?  And did you by
> > chance miscount?
> > John Dammeyer
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 22 March 2021 09:19:19 Sam Sokolik wrote:

> 202,200 for the outside spline and the flex gear is 200.  In this
> situation - the 202 tooth spline is stationary to the stepper.  The
> 200 tooth outside spline is mounted to the faceplate.  In this layout
> - the ratio apears to be 101:1
>
> In this situation the stepper motor and the face plate spin the same
> direction.
>
Expected I think Sam. The difference in speeds is because the stationary 
gear is the reference. 202/200=1.01 but 200/202=0.9900990099, is not .99 
flat. The reciprocal's should match and do though.

But the rest of the proof is above my pay grade, the 8 years I did spend 
in school was blessed with a male math teacher far more interested in 
what was in the girls panties than in actually teaching math.

He eventually disappeared in the middle of the night, it was rumored at 
the insistance of a loaded 12 gauge held by an un-named girls father. I 
was out of town, working at a hardware store fixing tv's at the time. 
And driving the stores pickup on service calls sickly bird since I 
wasn't old enough to get a drivers license yet.

Small towns, pop 270 or so on Saturday nights, tend to solve such 
problems w/o involving the county sheriff. I heard about 4th hand, that 
he did get arrested for similar reasons a year or so later in another 
small town.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

[andy pugh]

On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 13:23, Sam Sokolik  wrote:

> I am sure Andy can explain it.  It doesn't make sense to me.

It's because there is an extra 1-tooth movement of the spline with the
moving gear.

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Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

[Sam Sokolik]

wow - lets try that again...  Must be too early

202,200 for the outside spline and the flex gear is 200.  In this situation
- the 200 tooth spline is stationary to the stepper.  The 202 tooth outside
spline is mounted to the faceplate.  In this layout - the ratio apears to
be 101:1

In this situation the stepper motor and the face plate spin the same
direction.

With the same set of outside spines swapped - the ratio is 100:1

I am sure Andy can explain it.  It doesn't make sense to me.

Happy with runout...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLyP2YwdstQ

sam


On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 8:19 AM Sam Sokolik  wrote:

> 202,200 for the outside spline and the flex gear is 200.  In this
> situation - the 202 tooth spline is stationary to the stepper.  The 200
> tooth outside spline is mounted to the faceplate.  In this layout - the
> ratio apears to be 101:1
>
> In this situation the stepper motor and the face plate spin the same
> direction.
>
> With the same set of outside spines swapped - the ratio is 100:1
>
> I am sure Andy can explain it.  It doesn't make sense to me.
>
> Happy with runout...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLyP2YwdstQ
>
> sam
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 12:58 AM John Dammeyer 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
>> > So.   interesting..   I just swapped the gears..  Before my ratio
>> was
>> > 100:1.   Input scale was 1600step/rev * 100 = 16/360 = 444.444
>> > input scale.
>> >
>> > Now I reversed the outside splines.   I thought - wow - I must be losing
>> > steps - but i would aways come back to zero.   Finally though - maybe
>> the
>> > ratio was now 102:1 - no.  over shot.
>> >
>> > so the final solution seems to be 101:1  WTH?
>> >
>> > sam
>>
>> Hi Sam,
>> I found this at:
>> https://www.engineeringclicks.com/harmonic-drive/
>>
>> "The rate of rotation is dependent on the rotation of the input shaft and
>> the difference in the number of teeth between the flex spline and the
>> circular spline. The flex spline has fewer teeth than the circular spline,
>> so it can rotate at a much reduced ratio and in the opposite direction than
>> that of the input shaft. The reduction ration is given by: (number of flex
>> spline teeth – number of circular spline teeth) / number of flex spline
>> teeth. So for example, if the flex spline has 100 teeth and the circular
>> spline has 105, the reduction ratio is (100 – 105) / 100 = -0.05 which
>> means that the flex spline ration is -5/100 (minus indicates the opposite
>> direction of spin). The difference in the number of teeth can be changed to
>> accommodate different reduction ratios and thus different specialized needs
>> and requirements."
>>
>> So how many teeth have you on the fixed verses flex gear?  And did you by
>> chance miscount?
>> John Dammeyer
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Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

[Sam Sokolik]

202,200 for the outside spline and the flex gear is 200.  In this situation
- the 202 tooth spline is stationary to the stepper.  The 200 tooth outside
spline is mounted to the faceplate.  In this layout - the ratio apears to
be 101:1

In this situation the stepper motor and the face plate spin the same
direction.

With the same set of outside spines swapped - the ratio is 100:1

I am sure Andy can explain it.  It doesn't make sense to me.

Happy with runout...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLyP2YwdstQ

sam

On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 12:58 AM John Dammeyer 
wrote:

>
>
> > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com]
> > So.   interesting..   I just swapped the gears..  Before my ratio was
> > 100:1.   Input scale was 1600step/rev * 100 = 16/360 = 444.444
> > input scale.
> >
> > Now I reversed the outside splines.   I thought - wow - I must be losing
> > steps - but i would aways come back to zero.   Finally though - maybe the
> > ratio was now 102:1 - no.  over shot.
> >
> > so the final solution seems to be 101:1  WTH?
> >
> > sam
>
> Hi Sam,
> I found this at:
> https://www.engineeringclicks.com/harmonic-drive/
>
> "The rate of rotation is dependent on the rotation of the input shaft and
> the difference in the number of teeth between the flex spline and the
> circular spline. The flex spline has fewer teeth than the circular spline,
> so it can rotate at a much reduced ratio and in the opposite direction than
> that of the input shaft. The reduction ration is given by: (number of flex
> spline teeth – number of circular spline teeth) / number of flex spline
> teeth. So for example, if the flex spline has 100 teeth and the circular
> spline has 105, the reduction ratio is (100 – 105) / 100 = -0.05 which
> means that the flex spline ration is -5/100 (minus indicates the opposite
> direction of spin). The difference in the number of teeth can be changed to
> accommodate different reduction ratios and thus different specialized needs
> and requirements."
>
> So how many teeth have you on the fixed verses flex gear?  And did you by
> chance miscount?
> John Dammeyer
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] openscad to normal gcode converter?

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 22 March 2021 02:19:02 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:

> Anno domini 2021 Mon, 22 Mar 00:44:33 -0400
>
>  Gene Heskett scripsit:
> > On Sunday 21 March 2021 19:02:25 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > oops ... typo, see below ...
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Delete "unnamed" "unnamed001" but please keep "unnamed001(solid)"
> > > :)
> >
> > Magic markered the printed copy, thanks again Nik.
>
> LOL ... i alway put this stuff in a folder and then I search for ages
> til I find the info again :)
>
> Nik

Lol, had soot myself in the tummy with my weekly shot of bydureon, 
because I've been a DM-II for about 40 years, and to put on my morning 
pot of coffee before replying.

I am slightly less well organzized, if its multi-page I staple it 
together and put it in the action pile. Searching it is a bit of a chore 
and eventually the pile has an avalanch and gets sorted a bit IF I pick 
it. Otherwise it moves to the round file a handfull at a time. Once I've 
committed it to wet ram enough times it usually safe to ditch it. At 86, 
I find I have to reread it more times, something I didn't have to do 70 
years ago.  One could say I've reached that age where I don't buy green 
banannas. Theres a pacemaker to replace mine that was failing 2 years 
ago, a bunch of stents and a new valve a year ago trying to keep it 
going at 30% or I'd be history quietly forgotten already.  They took a 
look at their work in January and told me to come back in another year, 
indicating confidence in their work. We'll see. In any event, Its been a 
wild ride so far. I've got a bigger collection of BTDT's than the 
average bear.  I've gotten the impression that you have a longer list 
too.

Take care & stay well, Nik.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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