Re: [Emc-users] splicing teeny wires

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 20 August 2021 21:43:10 Chris Albertson wrote:

> West Marine carries the 3X shrink, glue lined tube.   WM is a big
> chain of marine hardware stores and if looking for any low-volt
> electrical stuff, they have the best and most expensive stuff.   Near
> me the are like Starbuks, one on every corner I can walk to one by my
> house.
> westmarine.com/buy/ancor--adhesive-lined-heat-shrink-tubing
> ng-alt--P009_275_003_003?recordNum=7>
>

Bookmarked. Thanks. Nearest is 173 miles, over in Virginia, over roads 
that would break a copperheads back. But online ordering looks ok.

> But for those who don't live by a harbor, Amazon has it also and with
> free next=day Prime delivery

> amazon.com/Ginsco-270Pcs-Shrink-Adhesive-Tubing
> 9KNB/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1=glue+lined+heat+shrink=1629509293
>=8-4>
I hadn't looked there, ordered the big kit.  Thanks.
>
> I just checked McMaster Carr and I must sethey have the most
> impressive line of shrink tube, At least two dozen different kinds.  
> This stuff comes in handy for robot building.  I keep a big assortment
> of it in my parts drawers
>
>  But Amazon's prime next-day delivery is hard to beat
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 5:39 PM Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> > On Friday 20 August 2021 14:06:07 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Friday 20 August 2021 13:55:31 andy pugh wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 16:43, Gene Heskett
> > > > 
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > >  Too many times the heat shrink has slid off.
> > > >
> > > > You can get heat-shrink with hot-melt glue inside. That doesn't
> > > > slide off.
> > >
> > > Now thats a better idea. I will see if I can source some of that.
> > > Thanks Andy.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >
> > But Lowes didn't have any that I could find, but I did find a couple
> > 25 packs of the teeniest telephone splice. IDC, will probably
> > outlast me...
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
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> >  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
> > respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
> > Genes Web page 
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] splicing teeny wires

[Chris Albertson]

West Marine carries the 3X shrink, glue lined tube.   WM is a big chain of
marine hardware stores and if looking for any low-volt electrical stuff,
 they have the best and most expensive stuff.   Near me the are like
Starbuks, one on every corner I can walk to one by my house.
westmarine.com/buy/ancor--adhesive-lined-heat-shrink-tubing


But for those who don't live by a harbor, Amazon has it also and with free
next=day Prime delivery amazon.com/Ginsco-270Pcs-Shrink-Adhesive-Tubing


I just checked McMaster Carr and I must sethey have the most impressive
line of shrink tube, At least two dozen different kinds.   This stuff comes
in handy for robot building.  I keep a big assortment of it in my parts
drawers

 But Amazon's prime next-day delivery is hard to beat

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 5:39 PM Gene Heskett  wrote:

> On Friday 20 August 2021 14:06:07 Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> > On Friday 20 August 2021 13:55:31 andy pugh wrote:
> > > On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 16:43, Gene Heskett 
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >  Too many times the heat shrink has slid off.
> > >
> > > You can get heat-shrink with hot-melt glue inside. That doesn't
> > > slide off.
> >
> > Now thats a better idea. I will see if I can source some of that.
> > Thanks Andy.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> But Lowes didn't have any that I could find, but I did find a couple 25
> packs of the teeniest telephone splice. IDC, will probably outlast me...
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> --
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
>  - Louis D. Brandeis
> Genes Web page 
>
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Re: [Emc-users] splicing teeny wires

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 20 August 2021 14:06:07 Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Friday 20 August 2021 13:55:31 andy pugh wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 16:43, Gene Heskett 
>
> wrote:
> > >  Too many times the heat shrink has slid off.
> >
> > You can get heat-shrink with hot-melt glue inside. That doesn't
> > slide off.
>
> Now thats a better idea. I will see if I can source some of that. 
> Thanks Andy.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

But Lowes didn't have any that I could find, but I did find a couple 25 
packs of the teeniest telephone splice. IDC, will probably outlast me...

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] splicing teeny wires

[Chris Albertson]

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:58 AM andy pugh  wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 16:43, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> >
> >  Too many times the heat shrink has slid off.
>
> You can get heat-shrink with hot-melt glue inside. That doesn't slide off.
>

Yes, I forgotto sey this.   I like these glue lined tubes.But if  the
normal un-linned tube slides, it means you have used the wrong size tube.
After shrinking the tub should be conformal and the big "bump" in the
solder joint should make the tube look like a snake who just eat a rat, the
bump should be visible and machanically prevent sliding.

But the glue lined tube is fool proof.  You can never remove it and it is
good enough to be submerged in water.   Be sure to visulay verify the glue
did melt.   You check by lookingthat some glue was squeezed out both ends
of the tube by the shrinking acton.

The other method is to use paint-on vynil.   For low-volt wire it works
well enough.

Finally you stagger the splices so that two of then can't come in contact,
then insolation maters less.

>
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Re: [Emc-users] splicing teeny wires

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 20 August 2021 13:55:31 andy pugh wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 16:43, Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> >  Too many times the heat shrink has slid off.
>
> You can get heat-shrink with hot-melt glue inside. That doesn't slide
> off.
Now thats a better idea. I will see if I can source some of that.  Thanks 
Andy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] splicing teeny wires

[andy pugh]

On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 16:43, Gene Heskett  wrote:
>
>  Too many times the heat shrink has slid off.

You can get heat-shrink with hot-melt glue inside. That doesn't slide off.

-- 
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Re: [Emc-users] splicing teeny wires

[Ralph Stirling]

This may not help you in this situation, but for connecting wiring
in the #26-#22 range, especially small steppers, I like using
TE/Amp MTA-100 IDC connectors.  I watched ebay for a while
to get a crimper at a reasonable price, but these have been
reliable for me and super fast to install.  The connectors are
cheap.  I use extended length 0.1" headers to join cables.  The
mta-100's also plug right onto standard headers on pcb's.

https://gab.wallawalla.edu/~ralph.stirling/projects/linuxcnc/photos/IMG_20210820_092102762.jpg

https://gab.wallawalla.edu/~ralph.stirling/projects/linuxcnc/photos/IMG_20200427_114032797.jpg


-- Ralph

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On Friday 20 August 2021 10:50:29 andy pugh wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 14:53, Gene Heskett 
wrote:
> > If you know of an even smaller splice, and the tool for it, I'd sure
> > appreciate being advised.
>
> When space is tight I use solder and heat-shrink.

I do too Andy, but there might be 30 such joints in a 2" cube so I need
something really miniature. Too many times the heat shrink has slid off.
After seeing how prusa makes an umbilical cord out of theirs, with good
anchoring on both ends, and the creality haveing very poor anchoring, as
in none on the carriage originally, I'm trying to improve it a bit at
the same time. The CR10-S Pro V2 does very nice work, for about half an
hour at PETG temps, then starts leaking because the hot end of the
capricorn bowden tube is going away. So I'm putting a volcano version of
the E3D V6 hotend on it, with a Sherpa direct drive on top of the
volcano. Had to design and make a mount, for both that and the BLTouch.
OPenscad feeding to a MK3S Prusa makes that easy peasy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Re: [Emc-users] splicing teeny wires

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 20 August 2021 11:55:35 Roland Jollivet wrote:

> Hi Gene
>
> I don't know if you know about these splicers. Mostly used for
> telephone wire. You can see what's going on, and any pliers will do
> the trick, but they're not 'in-line'
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Connector-Uvital-Waterproof-Gel-Filled-Connecto
>rs/dp/B07Z7NY6BN
>
Yes, but I could fill that 2x2 box & still have a few hanging out. So I 
need to find something smaller.

Thank you Roland.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] splicing teeny wires

[Chris Albertson]

I just use solder and tiny heat shrink tubes.

Waterproof crimp-on splices are very good and I used thouse on my sailboat
for wires that were submerged in saltwater in the bilge.  But a 3D printer
lives indoors so solder and a shrink tube for insolation and strain relief
should work.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 6:53 AM Gene Heskett  wrote:

> Greetings all;
>
> I am converting a Creatlity CR10-S Pro v2 3d printer to a 350C capable
> volcano version of the E3D V6 hot end.
>
> Which means I have quite a slew of stuff to splice, probably in that box
> of the left end of the X carriage. But generally, insulated splices have
> not shrunk in 65 years.
>
> I have one of those 4 jaw crimping tools that goes down to quite small
> stuff but I think its made for teeny gage bare tubing like Hilichi stuff
> and would probably pierce the jacket on this splice:
>
> <
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/390629743508?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D233198%26meid%3D80b5051cdfab468899d391b72c2e417d%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D290952356482%26itm%3D390629743508%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2WithMLRv3&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219=cksum%3A39062974350880b5051cdfab468899d391b72c2e417d%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAABACtrZQ7uyU6NyRWMuc0OogoSa%252FUIDys%252F02w7jR10vOAtqMWPMvUBy6zzURpE8MjiCMTi6DgxxzvpD7iVSzJu8kvcZJZt4or%252Fa0xNRt86VxZQtHfiTjHy6BuxnZxXAupqTuSeGfkfcGVmv1BN3DUXQpudR31aCwMHJdRFc4KK5umNoYX1Ip1n21fqZ7jd%252BVYvIrJuQIfgC98ZJV0GBU4TuPrvS1gwa%252BI11X3QC4%252FWTmwG0LllfLTLnPvFBZEO%252BSS9flJVcF92B%252FQCGx6tngkE0upULNQnwWhgdiAVwZF8jbFqfEnkhcoe8z6zcTb7J2Vx2HAtRivwV3%252FZjJ%252BBXO9NDkM%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675=1751148278
> >
>
> So what crimp tool would serve to do a fine job of crimping that
> connector while leaving the insulation intact?
>
> If you know of an even smaller splice, and the tool for it, I'd sure
> appreciate being advised.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> --
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
>  - Louis D. Brandeis
> Genes Web page 
>
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[Emc-users] splicing teeny wires

[Roland Jollivet]

Hi Gene

I don't know if you know about these splicers. Mostly used for telephone
wire. You can see what's going on, and any pliers will do the trick, but
they're not 'in-line'

https://www.amazon.com/Connector-Uvital-Waterproof-Gel-Filled-Connectors/dp/B07Z7NY6BN



On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 15:54, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> Greetings all;
>
> I am converting a Creatlity CR10-S Pro v2 3d printer to a 350C capable
> volcano version of the E3D V6 hot end.
>
> Which means I have quite a slew of stuff to splice, probably in that box
> of the left end of the X carriage. But generally, insulated splices have
> not shrunk in 65 years.
>
> I have one of those 4 jaw crimping tools that goes down to quite small
> stuff but I think its made for teeny gage bare tubing like Hilichi stuff
> and would probably pierce the jacket on this splice:
>
> <
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/390629743508?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D233198%26meid%3D80b5051cdfab468899d391b72c2e417d%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D290952356482%26itm%3D390629743508%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2WithMLRv3&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219=cksum%3A39062974350880b5051cdfab468899d391b72c2e417d%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAABACtrZQ7uyU6NyRWMuc0OogoSa%252FUIDys%252F02w7jR10vOAtqMWPMvUBy6zzURpE8MjiCMTi6DgxxzvpD7iVSzJu8kvcZJZt4or%252Fa0xNRt86VxZQtHfiTjHy6BuxnZxXAupqTuSeGfkfcGVmv1BN3DUXQpudR31aCwMHJdRFc4KK5umNoYX1Ip1n21fqZ7jd%252BVYvIrJuQIfgC98ZJV0GBU4TuPrvS1gwa%252BI11X3QC4%252FWTmwG0LllfLTLnPvFBZEO%252BSS9flJVcF92B%252FQCGx6tngkE0upULNQnwWhgdiAVwZF8jbFqfEnkhcoe8z6zcTb7J2Vx2HAtRivwV3%252FZjJ%252BBXO9NDkM%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675=1751148278
> >
>
> So what crimp tool would serve to do a fine job of crimping that
> connector while leaving the insulation intact?
>
> If you know of an even smaller splice, and the tool for it, I'd sure
> appreciate being advised.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> --
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
>  - Louis D. Brandeis
> Genes Web page 
>
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Re: [Emc-users] splicing teeny wires

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 20 August 2021 10:50:29 andy pugh wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 14:53, Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> > If you know of an even smaller splice, and the tool for it, I'd sure
> > appreciate being advised.
>
> When space is tight I use solder and heat-shrink.

I do too Andy, but there might be 30 such joints in a 2" cube so I need 
something really miniature. Too many times the heat shrink has slid off. 
After seeing how prusa makes an umbilical cord out of theirs, with good 
anchoring on both ends, and the creality haveing very poor anchoring, as 
in none on the carriage originally, I'm trying to improve it a bit at 
the same time. The CR10-S Pro V2 does very nice work, for about half an 
hour at PETG temps, then starts leaking because the hot end of the 
capricorn bowden tube is going away. So I'm putting a volcano version of 
the E3D V6 hotend on it, with a Sherpa direct drive on top of the 
volcano. Had to design and make a mount, for both that and the BLTouch. 
OPenscad feeding to a MK3S Prusa makes that easy peasy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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Re: [Emc-users] Missing Features in LCNC for FFF/FDM Printers

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 20 August 2021 09:15:30 Sven Wesley wrote:

> Den mån 26 juli 2021 kl 01:35 skrev :
> > There are addins now that post process gcode to convert line
> > segments to G2/G3.
>
> Yes! ArcWelder is extremely good at this! Can be used as a console app
> or as a plugin directly in OctoPrint if you fancy that. I use it all
> the time and not only will you get smaller files, the printer operates
> so much smoother and at a faster pace.
> Highly recommended!
> https://github.com/FormerLurker/ArcWelderLib
> https://github.com/FormerLurker/ArcWelderPlugin
>
> Regards,
> Sven

I have installed in the latest cura, but need to test it better than I 
have. Probably would not work well for harmonic drives.

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Re: [Emc-users] splicing teeny wires

[andy pugh]

On Fri, 20 Aug 2021 at 14:53, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> If you know of an even smaller splice, and the tool for it, I'd sure
> appreciate being advised.

When space is tight I use solder and heat-shrink.

-- 
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[Emc-users] splicing teeny wires

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings all;

I am converting a Creatlity CR10-S Pro v2 3d printer to a 350C capable 
volcano version of the E3D V6 hot end.

Which means I have quite a slew of stuff to splice, probably in that box 
of the left end of the X carriage. But generally, insulated splices have 
not shrunk in 65 years.

I have one of those 4 jaw crimping tools that goes down to quite small 
stuff but I think its made for teeny gage bare tubing like Hilichi stuff 
and would probably pierce the jacket on this splice:



So what crimp tool would serve to do a fine job of crimping that 
connector while leaving the insulation intact?

If you know of an even smaller splice, and the tool for it, I'd sure 
appreciate being advised.

Thank you.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Re: [Emc-users] Missing Features in LCNC for FFF/FDM Printers

[Sven Wesley]

Den mån 26 juli 2021 kl 01:35 skrev :

> There are addins now that post process gcode to convert line segments to
> G2/G3.
>
>
Yes! ArcWelder is extremely good at this! Can be used as a console app or
as a plugin directly in OctoPrint if you fancy that. I use it all the time
and not only will you get smaller files, the printer operates so much
smoother and at a faster pace.
Highly recommended!
https://github.com/FormerLurker/ArcWelderLib
https://github.com/FormerLurker/ArcWelderPlugin

Regards,
Sven

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