Re: [Emc-users] Any Interest or Ideas for a Linuxcnc Fest 2016 ?

2016-06-15 Thread Wayde Allen
I'm in Boulder, and would be interested in this. Let's do it!
On Jun 15, 2016 8:29 AM, "Moses McKnight"  wrote:

> I'm definitely interested.  I could not make the one in TX, but I will try
> and
> make this one.  The time frame is fine with me as well.
>
> On 06/14/2016 03:24 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> > Gentlemen,
> > I have a 12 foot conference table and another long table in a large room.
> > We can easily seat 16-20 people.
> > Air conditioned and plenty of power and internet.
> > Any time would work but for playing in the shop and being cooler late
> > September or early October is probably the best time.
> > We can do it any date or I can set the date. Someone start the ball
> rolling.
> > I am about a mile from MPM so it is close to where it was before.
> >
> > 3434 West Harry is the address
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 05/02/2016 12:17 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> >>> If there is no interest or opportunity somewhere else you are all
> welcome
> >>> here.
> >>> I am in a shop of my own now. It may not be as interesting.
> >>> I am no longer associated with MPM in Wichita, Kansas nor EMI in
> >> Eminence,
> >>> Missouri.
> >>>
> >>> I think sometime in the next few weeks or sometime early fall would be
> >> the
> >>> best time to be here.
> >>>
> >>> If we have interest shown we can set a date and let it happen.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the offer.  I think it's better than the offer I made on IRC
> >> for a meeting in Boulder, CO.
> >>
> >> Do you have something like the conference room at MPM, where we can all
> >> sit comfortably around a table with power and internet?  If so I think
> >> we'll gratefully accept your offer!
> >>
> >> Since the next few weeks came and went, we're looking at some time in
> >> early fall.  September?  October?  When works for everyone?
> >>
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[Emc-users] UN-subscribe

2016-04-21 Thread Allen
To whom it may concern,

I would like to UN-Subscribe this email addy from the list, I'm hooked 
up through another addy.

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[Emc-users] LinuxCNC for retrofit of Cincinnati Milacron CNC?

2016-01-13 Thread Wayde Allen
I just joined the email list since I'm wondering about using Linux CNC to
retrofit the control system on an old Cincinnati/Milacron CNC system. The
motor control amplifier for these machines seems to be a Kollmorgen BDS4.
Has anyone here created an interface to one of these?

Is Linux CNC a decent option for replacing the old control computer on one
of these beasts for use in a low volume production environment?

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Re: [Emc-users] Stepper Motors/Drives

2016-01-13 Thread Wayde Allen
A number of the motor manufacturers Galil, Kollmorgen,  et al have motor
sizing information information and tools on their web pages that may be
useful. I just had to lookup the Kollmorgen page to make certain that I'd
spelled that correctly so here is a link for them.

http://www.kollmorgen.com/en-us/service-and-support/technical/technical-support/

OK, here's Galil's:

http://www.galil.com/learn/motorsizer

I've been working on retrofitting an old dish antenna system, see <
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqAmpVnAuzE> with Galil products with good
luck. However, just for the record that is not using LinuxCNC.

- Wayde



On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Bruce Layne 
wrote:

> I've had good luck with the stepper kits for CNC conversion on eBay,
> from Wantai or Wantmotor or Longs Motors.  These are Asian imports, but
> the quality is good.  You get the stepper motors, motor drives, DC power
> supply to drive the motors and a parallel port card.  You can buy kits
> with as many axes as you need, and whatever size stepper motors you
> need.  For the 9X30 lathe, I'd try to use medium to large sized NEMA 42
> motors.
>
> Try searching eBay for NEMA 42 kit.  Here's the first thing I found.
> You may want larger motors with more torque.
>
> www.ebay.com/itm/321370356701
>
> I always get the kit versions with one motor controller per axis, rather
> than a single board with all the motor drivers together. It's a bit more
> device mounting and wiring, but I like the modularity.  I've never blown
> up a stepper driver, but I want to be able to quickly replace a single
> driver and get back to business.
>
> Speaking of downtime and replacement parts Most times, I'll buy a
> kit with one more axis than I need, so I have spare parts.  Many times,
> I'll install the extra motor driver in the electrical panel. It's hard
> to lose the spare that way, and it's awfully handy a year later when I
> decide I want a 4th axis on a mill or a homemade bar feeder on a lathe.
>
> For stepper motor CNC conversions, I've always found the parallel port
> I/O to be good enough, fairly easy and inexpensive.  Mostly, I keep
> doing what I know how to do.  However, a good case could be made that a
> PCI card for I/O and motion control is much nicer and only a little more
> expensive.
>
>
>
> Chatty Post Ramble:
> I'm heading back into CNC mode myself.  I have a few unfinished CNC
> projects to wrap up, but I suddenly developed a business need that is
> pushing the 24"X24" CNC router ahead of the partially finished
> projects.  I have a new product that requires me to machine ABS plastic
> shells from 24" square sheets and... this is the geeky cool part... use
> the CNC router to 3D print RTV silicone like a low resolution 3D
> printer.  The prototyping looks promising.  I'll post a video when I get
> it working, probably in a month or two.  Today's project - I have 150
> lithium batteries arriving for the electric bike I'm building.  Perfect
> e-bike timing.  It's 12 F outside. #GeekLife
>
>
>
> On 01/13/2016 11:09 AM, Rick Lair wrote:
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > I have never dealt with stepper motors/drives and one of the guys at our
> > shop is kicking around converting and old 9x30 Southbend lathe to cnc
> > using Linuxcnc. Are there any recommendations on maybe some kits with
> > all the power stuff (motors, power supplies, cables, etc,) that anybody
> > recommends. I am up in the air on the control hardware, but I can handle
> > that, I just don't know where to start on sizing/selecting the stepper
> > stuff.
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Linux Mint

2015-11-02 Thread Allen
Just curious folks, why would you use these other Desktops instead of 
the one in Wheezy?
(Just in case I'm missing something).

Thanks

On 11/2/2015 6:15 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote:
> I have already installed the Mate desktop on to a stock Wheezy Linuxcnc 
> install.  I'm probably going to do this with most of my new installs from now 
> on.  It was a relatively painless installation.
> https://wiki.debian.org/Mate
>
> The same can also be done with Cinnamon.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Morley" 
> To: "EMC" 
> Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 6:34:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linux Mint
>
>
>
>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> From: j...@gnipsel.com
>> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:26:43 -0600
>> Subject: [Emc-users] Linux Mint
>>
>> I have Linux Mint 17.2 and like the interface, are there any
>> instructions on how to patch the kernel for real time? I ran uname -r
>> and it reports 3.16.0-38 generic in 17.2. Cinnamon and Mate seem to be
>> the best for me, I could not figure out where the turn off button was in
>> XFCE lol. Finally found it and the name choice was poor.
>>
>> I've done a lot of things on computers but building or patching a kernel
>> is not on that list so any advice is appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>> JT
>>
> I would be interested in this too.
> I use RTAI
>
> Chris M
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Re: [Emc-users] Learning LinuxCNC Youtube Channel

2015-09-20 Thread Allen
Jim,

I can't tell you how helpful these vids will be for folks like me.
So many question I had when I first saw the probe program where cleared up.
Thank you, and keep em coming.

I had an idea for a video, those hal meters are pretty handy, could you 
add to the the probe series with a how to to set those meters up?
If that's already been covered elsewhere, perhaps a link to point us in 
the correct direction.

Thanks again, Allen


On 09/20/2015 06:03 AM, Jim Craig wrote:
> The third video in the touch probe series is now available on YouTube.
> If you have any questions about the touch probe that I have not answered
> in the videos let me know and I will address them. If I have enough
> additional questions then I can make a fourth video answering them.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S9f0Nkoh8U
>
> Looks like there is decent response to the channel already so I will
> keep working on new episodes. Next ones will be on the basics of LinuxCNC.
>
> I have not heard any feedback about the logo so I assume that it is OK
> to keep using it. Please let me know if I am stepping on toes here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
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Re: [Emc-users] Learning LinuxCNC Youtube Channel

2015-09-18 Thread Allen
You've already put my mind at ease about setting up a probe.

This will be increadably helpful as more a more vids come on line.

Thanks for the resource Jim.

On 09/18/2015 05:41 AM, Jim Craig wrote:
> I decided that I would start a Youtube channel that is all about
> LinuxCNC. I will be posting video tutorials of some common tasks and
> going over some of the larger and seemingly more confusing topics that
> go along with LinuxCNC. I also plan on putting up some informative
> reviews of different items that I am using with LinuxCNC so that others
> can make more educated purchases.
>
> I took some liberty and modified the LinuxCNC logo for my channel by
> changing the text below Chip and putting a graduation cap on him
> signifying that he is learning about the features of the software. If
> this is not legit let me know and I will gladly change the logo to
> something different. If I need to put a particular credit in the videos
> and on the channel then I am happy to do that also.
>
> I am also going to try and make my channel a go to for LinuxCNC videos.
> Keep in mind I am not monetizing my channel in the spirit of LinuxCNC. I
> will link to other videos on my channel so that we can try to keep all
> of the good LinuxCNC videos in one place. So if you have a good video
> out there let me know and I will link it to the Learning LinuxCNC channel.
>
> So for the first videos. Drum roll please!
>
> I have mentioned that I was going to publish a video review of the touch
> probe that I am using. Well here are the first two installments of the
> video series on the touch probe. I should have the third and final video
> out by the end of the weekend.
>
> The first video is an unboxing and dis-assembly video of the probe
> showing how it arrives and the parts that comes with it. Also shows how
> to properly dis-assemble the probe for repair.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcazGaRj9Xs
>
> The second video is about setting the touch probe up so the tip runs
> concentric in your spindle.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na6PzAlWdIw
>
> I know the videography is less than perfect but it is more about the
> info. Videography to improve on subsequent attempts (Cant get much worse!)
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Re: [Emc-users] Programming services

2015-06-24 Thread Allen
Marcus,

I'm just a party doing what I can to run a machine and make a part here 
and there, so I can't address the larger plan you shared for bigger 
projects.

I have often wished there was someone I could contact with issues I come 
across and challenges pertaining to upgrades and the like. Paying for 
that service would often times be cheaper than bleeding for days on some 
of this stuff (depending on how expensive the help service was).

I am not blessed with an education in computer ins and outs, I am 
someone who in order to compete and be relevant in the world today needs 
automation, so I'm stuck between a rock and a hard spot!
No education on the subject, no time for the education, and I must make 
use of the technology of the day.
LNCN is a wonderful open source tool to be relevant and it is cost 
effective _IF_ things go smoothly. It would be great if folks with the 
skill set could be available to help implement it as needed for a 
service fee. Pricing could be by incident or annual subscription.

My two cents worth, I hope it helps.

On 06/24/2015 02:49 AM, Marius Alksnys wrote:
 Would developing, LinuxCNC support, consultancy paid services be
 interesting for this community?

 By developing I mean software and hardware:
 programming custom HAL components;
 FPGA programming;
 Making changes, alterations to LinuxCNC sources per request;
 Creating user interfaces;
 Design and creation of electronics hardware.

 What I am thinking about is to gather a team of people capable to offer
 services for money agreed. One way is just to advertise them officially,
 another could be crowd-funding.

 Crowd-funding principle could be handy for tasks of multiple interest in
 a way like this:
 1. Task is raised from the community.
 2. It is reviewed by the team or even other members, which offer their
 solution with description of what could be done, time and money needed.
 3. One offer probably has to win.
 4. Fund collection for the winning offer begins.
 5. Work begins when funding goal is reached.
 6. Work is tested when done, fixed if needed.
 7. When everyone is happy, implementer gets the money, otherwise all or
 part of money (as agreed in advance) goes back to the funders.

 Being a full-time LinuxCNC integrator with some experience, I could help
 collect the team members if I see my idea gets your support and real
 tasks could be funded.

 Probably management system could be integrated into existing issue tracker..

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Re: [Emc-users] Mill coordinates setup

2015-03-22 Thread Allen
Andy,

I'd like to know more about the resolvers on your machine.
Can you share what they are and how they work?

Thanks, Allen



On 03/20/2015 02:07 PM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 20 March 2015 at 20:24, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote:
 This gets me to the machine zero within the accuracy of the machine.
 My mill homes to the limit switch and then the resolvers. So my home
 location is accurate to about 2 orders of magnitude more than the
 absolute accuracy of the machine. Which doesn't hurt but isn't useful.
 It does mean I can be very confident about turning the machine off and
 re-starting a job the next day.



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Re: [Emc-users] Mill coordinates setup

2015-03-22 Thread Allen
Thank you.

On 03/22/2015 06:13 PM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 23 March 2015 at 00:47, Allen aw...@mail.com wrote:
 I'd like to know more about the resolvers on your machine.
 Can you share what they are and how they work?
 Just ordinary resolvers in the motors. Connected to LinuxCNC with a
 Mesa 7i49. That should be a turnkey setup now. (It wasn't, I had to
 write three separate drivers, but they all exist now)



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Re: [Emc-users] Sign in issues

2014-11-22 Thread Allen
Rafael,

No, I have it squared away now.
I didn't update my records and I was using the wrong info.

Thanks for asking, Allen


On 11/22/2014 09:15 AM, Rafael Skodlar wrote:
 Allen,

 Still struggling with your login?

 On 11/21/2014 06:56 PM, Allen wrote:
 I hope this finds someone that can help.

 I have my user name and password written down, the system doesn’t like
 them anymore!
 you must have written it incorrectly. Make sure your Caps Lock is not on
 or numerical part of keyboard is not in edit mode.

 I have tried to get a new password and asked for my user name as suggested.
 I get no emails with either user name or password.
 Where is that suggestion coming from? This is not on some server or in
 the cloud where applications make it possible to recover from login
 problems.

 What now?

 Allen
 Bootup from CD or it's USB equivalent and select a rescue mode. That
 should make it possible to change the password. I don't remember where
 the root partition will be mounted by default if at all. Regardless, you
 need to open a terminal and run a command 'df' which would tell you if
 /dev/sda1 is mounted or not.

 If it's mounted, go to the mount point, /tmp/target for example, and
 edit file /tmp/target/etc/shadow. But let's assume you used Ubuntu CD to
 boot from and that the hard drive was not mounted. That happened in my
 test with LinuxCNC in virtual environment, Virtualbox.

 Open a terminal. You are going to be logged in as user ubuntu. You
 either need to prepend all suggested commands with sudo or become user
 root, my preference.

 Switch to user 'root' with command 'sudo su -'. Run the following
 commands one by one:
 fsck /dev/sda1
 mkdir /tmp/sda1
 mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/sda1

 Now you should be able to run
 ls /tmp/sda1
 That is disk drive partition 1 root or top point. You should see
 directory named etc among others in there.

 cd /tmp/sda1/etc
 cp shadow shadow.bkp-- creates a backup copy.

 ls shadow*   -- command shows two shadow files in that directory. Most
 likely 3 as one is shadow~ also a backup created by the system at some
 point.

 Now edit file named shadow and remove the password, that is the part
 between the first and second ':' following your user name. In your case
 it might look like:

 allen:$6$K5NgZYUK$3s2qEljrPGeX4LLLyuVVDGjA104:15942:0:9:7:::

 ^ --- remove  ^

 Make sure you don't remove anything else. Save the file and reboot from
 the hard drive. You should be able to login without a password
 afterwards. Then change your password. Make sure you test login before
 you logout to prevent lockout again.

 For editor you can use either vi or nano.

 There are other ways to do it but that's the easiest IMO. The same would
 work for most if not all Linux distributions.



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[Emc-users] Sign in issues

2014-11-21 Thread Allen
I hope this finds someone that can help.

I have my user name and password written down, the system doesn’t like 
them anymore!
I have tried to get a new password and asked for my user name as suggested.
I get no emails with either user name or password.

What now?

Allen

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Re: [Emc-users] open-source cam software thoughts and comments

2014-10-21 Thread Allen
I use Weber Systems  Synergy. (linux based)
http://webersys.com/
It's been around for years and is under represented.
Very little marketing.
You might look at it as well.

Blender was pretty heavy, Pycam was too light, LCNC Native CAM I use at 
times, never got around to Inkscape Gcode tools, I might take a look at 
that myself as well.

Have fun.


On 10/21/2014 04:35 AM, linden wrote:
 Hi,
 Do any of you use any of the 4 programs listed below? What other
 solutions are out there?  I have come to the conclusion it would be nice
 to use some sort of tool  rather than typing all the code out by hand.
 lol For little things its no big deal but I can see it getting old in a
 hurry. On an other note I have been playing with Freecad the last few
 weeks and am quite impressed with the part and part design tool bars any
 way the other features are still on my get to learn list.

   Thanks in advance,
   Linden

 Blender Cam add on for blender
 http://blendercam.blogspot.com/p/blender-cam-description.html

 Pycam and or  Pycam ++
 http://sourceforge.net/p/pycam/pycam++/ci/master/tree/

 Linuxcnc Features Native CAM for linuxCNC
 https://github.com/cnc-club/linuxcnc-features

 Inkscape gcode tools plug in
 https://github.com/cnc-club/gcodetools

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Re: [Emc-users] Running on older computers.

2014-06-01 Thread Allen
On 14-05-31 05:01 PM, dave wrote:
 Well, I really hate to admit it but my LCNC machines are running on a
 600 Mhz Seattleboard. It's been down for two years  now. Not the
 computer just the belleville stack for the tool clamp. Real bear to get
 at. ... I need to bribe someone. ;-)

 Other machine is a cinci contourmaster ... with a Duron 1200. Slow and
 often the nml fails. What it knows internally and the display do not
 alway coincide.

 I do have a 525 waiting in the halls.

 One of these days when I find a 'real' roundtoit I'll get it done.

 Dave

 On Sat, 2014-05-17 at 18:14 -0500, rayj wrote:
 What's everyone's experience running LCNC on older computers.  I'm
 talking about just the basic 3 axis control.  I have several old
 computers, Win 98 is functional, XP not really.  Several of them have
 pretty good latency numbers, so I'm exploring running LCNC instead of an
 old DOS based program called DeskNC.

 Anyone with any experience, succeeded, failed, or in between, I'd be
 interested in hearing about it.

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I have an older (much older) PC running my gantry router.
The latency on it was boarder-line and I didn't want to deal with issues 
in the middle of a project.
So, with the help of the folks here I was able to get thigs running 
pretty smothly with 8.4.
Heron was my first exposure to Linux and seemed like revisiting an old 
friend,

In short, it's worth a try.

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Re: [Emc-users] OT: need some advice

2014-05-13 Thread Allen
On 14-05-13 05:55 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote:
 Hello!

 I would like to ask for some advice, hints or ideas for a pretty simple
 machine.
 The task is to build a machine which would process side edges of wood
 boards.
 The thing is that board width varies in range of 80 to 300 mm in a random,
 unpredictable order.
 There are 2 motors - one for each side.
 What I have in mind - boards are based along a fixed slide, so one motor is
 firmly mounted, the other motor is supposed to be repositioned for the
 width of particular board by stepper motor.

 The problem is how to measure the width of board in most simple way.
 I was thinking about some ingenious way of using quadrature encoder -
   pulse counted by some Arduino, which would be programmed to issue step/dir
 for repositioning stepper in some electronic gearing ratio (and home it to
 a switch when dedicated button is pressed).

 I created a small sketch of my current idea:
 http://picpaste.com/scheme-pemLgnsD.PNG
 Basically it is a lever, fixed at one end and the other end attached to
 timing belt or whatever, that turns an encoder. Initial gap is smaller than
 minimum board width. There would be some small error as the attachment
 point of timing belt on the lever end would not move exclusively
 perpendicularly to board movement direction, but that might be acceptable.

 The problem with this is that once the board passes through, the spring
 will return that lever to starting position very quickly and the motor
 might not manage to follow, so I cannot think of a nice way to adjust, how
 fast it returns back.

 I will appreciate any feedback!

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Viesturs,

Would you be open to something mechanical rather than electrical?
How are you planning to feed these boards (Belt, roller feed, hydraulic)?
And what kind of spacing between each piece would there be?

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Re: [Emc-users] Anyone on the list in Idaho or east Oregon?

2013-08-08 Thread Allen Gibson
I'm farther North, in Sandpoint but it's still Idaho.
I'ld like to know more about this map and getting on it.

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To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Anyone on the list in Idaho or east Oregon?
 

On Thu, 2013-08-08 at 00:30 -0700, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
 Anyone else here in Idaho? Especially the Boise to Ontario area?

I think Brent Mueller one of the APT guys is close to Boise. 

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Re: [Emc-users] driving or jogging off a limit via emcrsh

2013-05-10 Thread Norton Allen
On 5/10/2013 9:43 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote:
 On 5/10/2013 3:05 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 10 May 2013 03:28, Norton Allen al...@huarp.harvard.edu wrote:
 In this remote configuration, at the moment I do not have access to the
 graphical display. Is there a way to alter the configuration so I can
 start up from the command line without a GUI interface?
 You can, but it might not help.

 ...
 If you can ssh into the remote box then you can just halcmd unlinkp
 axis.N.max-limit-in (or whatever that pin is called) then halcmd setp
 axis.N.home

 Norton:

 To follow on Andy's If you can ssh..., what is your overall situation 
 here?

 Is the remote box running a regular LinuxCNC (or EMC2 if earlier) over 
 Ubuntu? If you can ssh into it and if your account permissions allow you 
 to execute 'sudo' commands. then you can gain access to the entire 
 desktop. Just enable the 'Remote Desktop' on the remote box and connect 
 to it with a VNC client on your local box (such as 
 Applications/Internet/Remote Desktop Viewer from the menu bar on a 
 Ubuntu 10.04 box). Ubuntu's documentation of all this is pretty awful. 
 Try resources such as 
 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-266981.html.

 OK, so the VNC protocol on which Remote Desktop is based can seem as 
 slow as molasses in January (do people in the southern hemisphere use 
 molasses?), which I expect the tcp/ip packet latency over the multiple 
 gateways implicit in a 3000 mile journey exaggerates. Still, I've found 
 it helpful where simple command-line access via ssh or single X-client 
 access wasn't enough. One respondent in the URL noted above points out 
 some alternatives to VNC. It's all a matter of how desperate you are:-)

Kent, Thanks, yes, we have used this system with VNC and it is a stock
installation on Ubuntu (although clearly not the latest.) My inability
to use VNC is temporary and is coupled with the remoteness of the
device. We have operated it successfully with both axis and emcrsh
running, and I have a driver on our main data acquisition system that
talks to emcrsh pretty well.

Why aren't I running VNC now? There was a, um, security problem, and I
killed the VNC server to cut off a remote session. I'm not familiar
enough with Ubuntu and/or VNC to restart it without just rebooting, and
I'm reluctant to do that remotely because the last time I tried that the
system powered off and had to wait for the techs to visit.

From ssh, I cannot run the emc startup because Axis can't find the
display. Reading through the emc script, I figured out I could set
DISPLAY=dummy, and that worked OK for now, but then re-reading the
emcrsh man page, I see I could just say DISPLAY=emcrsh.

For what it's worth, emcrsh seems to behave much better without axis.
Nonetheless, I'm still having trouble getting this device to home
itself. Even when I virtually disconnect the switches from the limits it
seems the machine seems to be turning itself off during the homing
operation.

Without a power interlock, what conditions will turn the machine off?


 A quick Internet search took me to your CV based on which I could hazard 
 an educated guess but I wonder if you are at liberty to tell us what 
 this linear actuator is pushing back and forth?

Here is a photo:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/168018/netcam.jpg

This is an enclosure on the top of a shipping container. The enclosure
covers a solar tracker which directs sunlight down to a high resolution
Fourier Transform Spectrometer for long term monitoring of
concentrations of all sorts of atmospheric constituents. As you can
probably guess, the box slides toward the camera.


 Regards,
 Kent

 PS - I know this final thought is elementary and I don't mean to be 
 patronizing, but all this is easier to work out if you start with a 2-PC 
 setup in your lab with one running a LinuxCNC simulator. Both the remote 
 access and the LinuxCNC tricks being offered up can be freely exercised 
 without danger of borking the remote host.


Yes, although I have not visited the site, all the initial testing was
done with scientists and techs on site while I connected remotely. I
could talk on the phone and tell them what I was trying to do, and
they'd tell me what actually happened. The whole system actually worked
pretty well for a few weeks before running into this particular problem.

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Re: [Emc-users] driving or jogging off a limit via emcrsh

2013-05-10 Thread Norton Allen
On 5/10/2013 10:29 AM, Norton Allen wrote:

 Without a power interlock, what conditions will turn the machine off?

I am running with just the emcrsh interface.

Step 1: virtually disconnect the home switch from the limit pins.
Startup and drive 2 inches off the limit. Shutdown emc
Step 2: virtually reconnect the home switch to the limit pins. Startup:

  * Verify machine is on, estop is off, joint_limit is OK
  * set mode manual
  * set home 0

The following appears on the console where I'm running emc:

joint 0 on limit switch error
emc/task/taskintf.cc 611: Error on axis 0, command number 76
command (EMC_AXIS_HOME) cannot be executed until the machine is out
of E-stop and turned on

Here is the relevant definition from the .ini file:

[AXIS_0]
TYPE = LINEAR
MAX_VELOCITY = .40
MAX_ACCELERATION = 1.0
STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 1.25
SCALE = 4000.0
FERROR = 0.05
MIN_FERROR = 0.01
MIN_LIMIT = -0.1
MAX_LIMIT = 63.85
HOME = 0.0
#HOME_OFFSET = -0.12
HOME_OFFSET = -0.62
USE_INDEX = FALSE
HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -0.2
HOME_LATCH_VEL = -0.1
HOME_FINAL_VELOCITY = 0.4
HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = YES

Specifically HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS, which should deal with this case. Is
there something obvious I'm missing?

I have verified that the box actually moves via the web camera.

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[Emc-users] driving or jogging off a limit via emcrsh

2013-05-09 Thread Norton Allen
I have a remote device (~3000 miles away) with a single linear axis
(lead screw) that is currently on the limit switch near the home
position. I have access to the emcrsh interface. Being on the limit
apparently turns the machine off. I know that in theory I should be able
to override limits in order to rehome the device, but I have not been
successful doing so. Has anyone gotten this to work? Any tricks?

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Re: [Emc-users] driving or jogging off a limit via emcrsh

2013-05-09 Thread Norton Allen
On 5/9/2013 6:31 PM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote:
 Depends on the machine.  The factory limits on my supermax signal the
 controller AND also opens a contactor for the drives.  You can override the
 input to the control (now EMC) all you like but it still doesn't bring the
 drives back up.  You have to mechanically move off the limits (luckily they
 left little knobs for that.)  I thought about changing the factory wiring
 to allow the EMC override to work but I'll never be ~3000mi away...

 So, so you know if its a software only limit or does it affect other
 hardware interlocks too?

I'm pretty sure they are software only--else how would the 'home'
function work? There is only a single limit input with the in and out
limits apparently wired in series. The home position is configured to be
some small distance from the in limit (but apparently not far enough!)

   I was able to get the overrides to function on
 another machine so I think they work (that was 2.4.x).  You could always go
 into you hal and comment out the limit sw input (or negate it.)

Ah! That is definitely worth a try.


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Re: [Emc-users] driving or jogging off a limit via emcrsh

2013-05-09 Thread Norton Allen
On 5/9/2013 8:46 PM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote:
 My home and limit switches are separate.  The limits (at both ends of all
 axes) are wires in series and drive the hardware interlock.  One axis fault
 = they ALL stop.  The home is its own switch and not super close to the
 limit sw.

Yes, I prefer that configuration, but I didn't design or build the hardware.


  Did it fault while homing or in normal operation?

I believe it was in normal operation. There is some play in the drive
mechanism, and it's possible the object being moved is being pushed by
wind into the limit.



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Re: [Emc-users] driving or jogging off a limit via emcrsh

2013-05-09 Thread Norton Allen
In this remote configuration, at the moment I do not have access to the
graphical display. Is there a way to alter the configuration so I can
start up from the command line without a GUI interface? For most
operations, all I'll need is the emcrsh interface.

On 5/9/2013 5:04 PM, Norton Allen wrote:
 I have a remote device (~3000 miles away) with a single linear axis
 (lead screw) that is currently on the limit switch near the home
 position. I have access to the emcrsh interface. Being on the limit
 apparently turns the machine off. I know that in theory I should be able
 to override limits in order to rehome the device, but I have not been
 successful doing so. Has anyone gotten this to work? Any tricks?

 Norton Allen



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Re: [Emc-users] Network Problem?

2013-04-06 Thread Norton Allen
On 4/6/2013 12:05 PM, dave wrote:
 On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 10:55 -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
 Stuart Stevenson wrote:
 Don't know if this is proper or will work for you but we export a directory
 from the linuxcnc control. This is the directory everyone writes into when
 sending a file to the machine. The machine then always runs from a local
 directory.
   
 While this doesn't address network security, it certainly prevents the 
 CNC system
 from ever needing to read the next block from a file and not being able to.
 I can't imagine how LinuxCNC could handle such a condition gracefully.

 sftp would be the best thing for security concerns, but you probably need
 to buy a package to do that from a Windows machine.

 Jon
 Hi Jon, 
 Maybe I'm not paranoid enough but I pretty much assume that all networks
 are behind a decent firewall. I use scp to get code to my machine just
 because it works not because I think I need it.

 Dave

Dave, You're not paranoid enough! If any machine on your network ever
goes outside (say a laptop), it can bring a virus in through the
firewall. What you describe is consider crustacean security: hard on
the outside, soft and tasty on the inside. Plus there are lots of ways
for systems to get infected through firewalls, via browsers, for
example. Ideally, one thinks about security at every level: network
firewall, system firewall, application access control, etc.

Jon, There are also plenty of free ssh/scp/sftp packages available for
Windows. I use a command line version as part of the cygwin collection.
(http://cygwin.com/)

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[Emc-users] Execute gcode remotely

2013-03-10 Thread Norton Allen
I am new to EMC. I am the software guy responsible for automating
operation of a simple mechanical device. The folks who created it, set
it up with a stepper motor connected to the parallel port of a Linux box
running EMC. There are two commands implemented via buttons in Axis:
Open and Close. These boil down to:

[HALUI]
MDI_COMMAND = G0 X0
MDI_COMMAND = G0 X63.85

I need to be able to execute these commands under program control (not
with a mouse click). Is there a straightforward way to issue these
commands via, say, emcrsh (or is it linuxcncrsh?) or via a command line,
perhaps using halcmd? The overall control for this system is on a
separate computer, so these commands need to be issued via TCP/IP or ssh.

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Re: [Emc-users] Execute gcode remotely

2013-03-10 Thread Norton Allen
Ah, exactly the information I was looking for.

Are there any timing restrictions associated with these commands or can
the whole set be dumped to the port all at once?

On 3/10/2013 3:23 PM, Eric H. Johnson wrote:
 Norton,

 Emcrsh / linuxcncrsh looks like it will do what you want. Prior to version
 2.5 it is emcrsh, 2.5 and later it is linuxcncrsh. You simply need to do an
 'enable', then set the 'mode' to MDI, and finally issue the MDI commands.
 For example:

 telnet machine address 5007

 hello EMC x 1.0
 set echo off
 set enable password // default EMCTOO
 set mode mdi
 set mdi G0 X0
 set mdi G0 X63.85
 quit

 Note: Depending on what you are doing you may need to set mode back to
 manual or auto once you are done.

 Regards,
 Eric

 I am new to EMC. I am the software guy responsible for automating operation
 of a simple mechanical device. The folks who created it, set it up with a
 stepper motor connected to the parallel port of a Linux box running EMC.
 There are two commands implemented via buttons in Axis:
 Open and Close. These boil down to:

 [HALUI]
 MDI_COMMAND = G0 X0
 MDI_COMMAND = G0 X63.85

 I need to be able to execute these commands under program control (not with
 a mouse click). Is there a straightforward way to issue these commands via,
 say, emcrsh (or is it linuxcncrsh?) or via a command line, perhaps using
 halcmd? The overall control for this system is on a separate computer, so
 these commands need to be issued via TCP/IP or ssh.


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Re: [Emc-users] Execute gcode remotely

2013-03-10 Thread Norton Allen
On 3/10/2013 4:26 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:
 On 03/10/2013 02:07 PM, Eric H. Johnson wrote:
 Norton,

 Generally it should handle MDI commands in order. I can't say that I have
 tested that extensively however.

 Regards,
 Eric


 Ah, exactly the information I was looking for.

 Are there any timing restrictions associated with these commands or can the
 whole set be dumped to the port all at once?
 I agree with Eric: it should handle MDI commands in order, no matter how 
 fast you send them.

 However: there was a bug, and that feature didn't work right in some 
 certain situations.

 The bug is in the master branch (2.6-pre) and in the 2.5.2 release. The 
 bug has been fixed in the 2.5 branch, so if you get 2.5 debs from the 
 buildbot you'll get the fix.  I'm still working on fixing the bug in 
 master...


Thanks, I'll be able to check those things out in the next couple days.


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[Emc-users] Is EMC going to work for me

2012-11-26 Thread Allen
Hello,

I apologies in advance, I'm largely uneducated in this field, the 
nomenclature may prove to be an obstacle at first.

I am considering the purchase of an older CNC router (about 12 years old).
What information should I provide to you to determine if the DC steppers 
on the machine will work with the EMC/LinuxCNC.

Thanks, Allen

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Re: [Emc-users] Is EMC going to work for me

2012-11-26 Thread Allen
On 12-11-26 02:57 PM, Jack Coats wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Allen g...@nidaho.net wrote:
 Hello,

 I apologies in advance, I'm largely uneducated in this field, the
 nomenclature may prove to be an obstacle at first.

 I am considering the purchase of an older CNC router (about 12 years old).
 What information should I provide to you to determine if the DC steppers
 on the machine will work with the EMC/LinuxCNC.

 Thanks, Allen
 You are at the right place.  If the stepper motor controllers have
 'step and direction' inputs, you should be OK.  There are devices,
 like GECKO's, that you could refer to with your specific model and
 manufacturer of the motors that could tell you if they could control
 them in case your current system doesn't have the driver hardware for
 the steppers, and LinuxCNC does GREAT driving steppers attached
 through Gecko's and many othe rbrands of stepper drivers.  Gecko is
 just one of the best known and a high quality brand.  Not that others
 aren't too.

 www.geckodrive.com

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All I know at the moment is it uses the stuff illustrated in the diagram 
below. (Hows that for technical jar-gin, Stuff).
Dose this help?
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Re: [Emc-users] Is EMC going to work for me

2012-11-26 Thread Allen
On 12-11-26 02:53 PM, Eric Keller wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Allen g...@nidaho.net wrote:

 I am considering the purchase of an older CNC router (about 12 years old).
 What information should I provide to you to determine if the DC steppers
 on the machine will work with the EMC/LinuxCNC.

 Unless it has some of the weird proprietary steppers with a strange number
 of windings, you can always replace the drives with step/dir drives that
 will work.  Do you know what kind of drives and motors it has?
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I do not know at the moment, I will call and find out tomorrow.

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Re: [Emc-users] off topic - device info needed

2012-11-26 Thread Allen
On 12-11-26 03:35 PM, Dave wrote:
 On 11/26/2012 1:54 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
 jeremy youngs wrote:
 
 they look like solid state relays to me

   
 They are phase angle SCR controllers.  You put a variable resistance
 across two of the terminals, and they vary the power to a line-powered
 device.  Basically a heavy-duty lamp dimmer.

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 Devices like that are commonly used to control industrial heaters - like
 band heaters, die heater cartridges, etc

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I some how got this and one other email in my inbox, I just signed up 
for the mailing list to ask question of LinuxCNC today, should I have 
gotten these mails??
Just so you know.

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Re: [Emc-users] Is EMC going to work for me

2012-11-26 Thread Allen
On 12-11-26 03:46 PM, Allen wrote:
 On 12-11-26 02:57 PM, Jack Coats wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Allen g...@nidaho.net wrote:
 Hello,

 I apologies in advance, I'm largely uneducated in this field, the
 nomenclature may prove to be an obstacle at first.

 I am considering the purchase of an older CNC router (about 12 years old).
 What information should I provide to you to determine if the DC steppers
 on the machine will work with the EMC/LinuxCNC.

 Thanks, Allen
 You are at the right place.  If the stepper motor controllers have
 'step and direction' inputs, you should be OK.  There are devices,
 like GECKO's, that you could refer to with your specific model and
 manufacturer of the motors that could tell you if they could control
 them in case your current system doesn't have the driver hardware for
 the steppers, and LinuxCNC does GREAT driving steppers attached
 through Gecko's and many othe rbrands of stepper drivers.  Gecko is
 just one of the best known and a high quality brand.  Not that others
 aren't too.

 www.geckodrive.com

 Take care.

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 Dose this help?
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Apparently the diagram didn't leave with the email.
I'll see if I can get it to attach some how.

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Re: [Emc-users] Is EMC going to work for me

2012-11-26 Thread Allen
On 12-11-26 02:57 PM, Jack Coats wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Allen g...@nidaho.net wrote:
 Hello,

 I apologies in advance, I'm largely uneducated in this field, the
 nomenclature may prove to be an obstacle at first.

 I am considering the purchase of an older CNC router (about 12 years old).
 What information should I provide to you to determine if the DC steppers
 on the machine will work with the EMC/LinuxCNC.

 Thanks, Allen
 You are at the right place.  If the stepper motor controllers have
 'step and direction' inputs, you should be OK.  There are devices,
 like GECKO's, that you could refer to with your specific model and
 manufacturer of the motors that could tell you if they could control
 them in case your current system doesn't have the driver hardware for
 the steppers, and LinuxCNC does GREAT driving steppers attached
 through Gecko's and many othe rbrands of stepper drivers.  Gecko is
 just one of the best known and a high quality brand.  Not that others
 aren't too.

 www.geckodrive.com

 Take care.

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Jack,

This web address will take you to the diagram I mentioned, (if you don't 
mind taking a minute to look at it).
http://abilitysystems.com/howitworks.html

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Re: [Emc-users] Is EMC going to work for me

2012-11-26 Thread Allen
On 12-11-26 04:31 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote:
 Allen,

 LinuxCNC replaces everything in the left most
 box of that diagram.  Everything to the right
 should be useable as-is.  It's been a long time
 since I've seen anything that used Indexer-LPT.
 We used that twenty years ago to run a benchtop
 milling machine.

 -- Ralph
 
 From: Allen [g...@nidaho.net]
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:02 PM
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Is EMC going to work for me

 This web address will take you to the diagram I mentioned, (if you don't
 mind taking a minute to look at it).
 http://abilitysystems.com/howitworks.html

 Thanks, Allen


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Ralph,

That's good news!
I knew it was by no means the latest or greatest.

So if I used LinuxCNC on the PC hard drive, a CAD/CAM program sending G 
code to it,
and the Indexer LPT would be dumped. (I'm just guessing here)

What kind of connections would be used to go from the PC to the Eternal 
Hardware?
(Assuming LPT boards aren't used).

Allen

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Re: [Emc-users] Is EMC going to work for me

2012-11-26 Thread Allen
On 12-11-26 05:09 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote:
 LinuxCNC works fine with the parallel port(s) already
 in your PC.  It will take G-code and send step  direction
 pulses through the existing parallel ports (LPT ports) to
 the existing stepper motor drives to turn the existing
 motors on your router.  You would only need to replace
 your parallel port hardware if you need higher velocities
 than software step generation can deliver.  If that is the
 case, an $80 board from Mesa Electronics would replace
 your lpt port and provide hardware step generation for
 LinuxCNC.

 -- Ralph
 
 From: Allen [g...@nidaho.net]
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 5:02 PM
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Is EMC going to work for me


 That's good news!
 I knew it was by no means the latest or greatest.

 So if I used LinuxCNC on the PC hard drive, a CAD/CAM program sending G
 code to it,
 and the Indexer LPT would be dumped. (I'm just guessing here)

 What kind of connections would be used to go from the PC to the Eternal
 Hardware?
 (Assuming LPT boards aren't used).

 Allen

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Excellent!!

Thanks Ralph.

Allen

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