Re: [Emc-users] Hardinge HCNC Retrofit/Rebuild

2012-04-21 Thread Ian McMahon
I have somewhat unreliable tool changes as well.  Sometimes it'll miss the 
change entirely and spin two or three revolutions before the ladder times out.  
Sometimes it seems like it pops the stop too early, and catches the turret in 
the wrong position.  Often I'll hear what sounds like the stop popping early 
and it'll make the correct change, but I'll hear it whack past the previous 
station.


I'm going to try adjusting the magnet and see if that helps.


On Apr 21, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote:

 On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 09:17 -0700, Terry Christophersen wrote:
 With dependable tool changes on a HNC. the stop latch (under the cover on 
 the operator side of the carrage)
 is usually the thing to get right.Adjustments are made by removing the long 
 black cover on the right
 side of the carrage.Under here there is a round plug with a hex socket,BUT 
 remember to loosen the 
 lock set screw that comes down from the top.
 If the turret works once or twice correctly then your problem is more than 
 likely mechanical rather than
 computer related.
 A combination of the magnetic sensor and the stop cushion is more than 
 likely the issue.
 What I do if I had to remove the sensor for some reason is try to get the 
 turret to work as 
 best as you can without the stop cushion(just to make sure the sensor is 
 very close to working)
 then fine tune with the stop cushion.
 It takes a little while but once you get the stop working correctly the 
 turret will be 100 percent reliable
 
 Terry
 
 On mine, I loosen the screw for the magnet then note the actual tool
 position. I rotate the magnet forward (I forget which way) until the
 tool number matches the actual position and continue until the number
 changes to 0 or the next tool number. I back off a little to get the
 proper tool number back again. This way the logic can make a match early
 enough to activate the stop pawl in time. If the match isn't done in
 time, the table continues to rotate.
 
 See here for the lock screw location:
 http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/HNC/maint_man/ 
 
 In case you haven't heard me say it before, if your seals are over three
 years old they should be replaced (or at least checked that they are
 still soft and without cracks). It made a big difference on my lathe.
 
 -- 
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 http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/
 http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html
 California, USA
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-19 Thread Ian McMahon
What about a new plane selection block which allowed you to define an arbitrary 
plane using 3 points?


On Apr 19, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Chris Radek wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:18:52PM +0300, Viesturs L??cis wrote:
 
 How hard would it be to add that? It would require 3 coordinates for
 each of start, end and center point.
 
 The guts of linuxcnc already support this kind of motion and have for
 some time.  The problem is representing them in gcode.  I do not agree
 that 3 coordinates is enough to identify a 3d arc uniquely.  Consider
 the points start:-1,0,0 center:0,0,0 end:1,0,0.  You can draw many
 arcs with that specification.
 
 Also it is not true that you can't get nonplanar arcs in linuxcnc.  If
 you rotate around the Z axis (G10 R) and do a G18 or G19 arc, you'll
 see that it's not in any plane.  Of course you can only specify some
 arcs this way (but enough to let any gcode program keep working when
 rotated.)
 
 Chris
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Hardinge HNC

2012-04-17 Thread Ian McMahon
Yes, I'm ssi on IRC, and the conversion was quite straightforward.   I have 
$400 in Mesa gear, under $200 for two vfds, and miscellaneous wiring supplies.  
The stock resolvers work great with mesa's 7i49, there's no problems with the 
Hiak amps.   The only issue I ran into was dirty tachs, and they cleaned up 
easy enough. 

Conversion took about 2 weeks of evenings.

Ian

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On Apr 17, 2012, at 7:57 AM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I converted my CHNC a while back with a Mesa 5i20 + 7i33TA + 7i37TA 
 cards. My CHNC uses encoders so that part was easy... as I understand 
 the HNC has resolvers so you need an additional card for that. IIRC ssi 
 on the IRC just finished converting a HNC as well as many others. I'm in 
 the process of converting my BP Anilam CNC mill with a 5i25 + 7i77 card 
 and a D525 motherboard which will eliminate 2 of the 3 giant electrical 
 panels hanging off of the BP knee mill...
 
 John
 
 On 4/16/2012 7:17 PM, Terry Christophersen wrote:
 Hi all,
 I have a Hardinge HNC that I am toying with the idea of retrofitting.I know 
 there is
 a few on this list that have done so,I would like to know the amp/motor 
 combos that are
 in use.I have one that I put a Centroid on a few years ago but I dont have 
 the workload
 for another 10K kit for this one.I would just use it for a rush job so I 
 dont have to tear down the
 other HNC.
 
 I would assume that the origional axis motors would be usable as they were 
 working when I
 shut it off 5yrs ago.Maybe Jon Elsons amps would be a good choice?
 
 Thanks
 
 Terry
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Hardinge HNC

2012-04-16 Thread Ian McMahon
I'm using the original motors and original amps with good success.

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On Apr 16, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Terry Christophersen tcninj...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I have a Hardinge HNC that I am toying with the idea of retrofitting.I know 
 there is 
 a few on this list that have done so,I would like to know the amp/motor 
 combos that are
 in use.I have one that I put a Centroid on a few years ago but I dont have 
 the workload
 for another 10K kit for this one.I would just use it for a rush job so I dont 
 have to tear down the 
 other HNC.
  
 I would assume that the origional axis motors would be usable as they were 
 working when I
 shut it off 5yrs ago.Maybe Jon Elsons amps would be a good choice?
  
 Thanks
  
 Terry
 
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Re: [Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation

2012-03-21 Thread Ian McMahon
Just to throw my two cents in, in addition to there being very few cam 
solutions, there are even fewer that do lathe profiling.  The ones that do, 
it's listed as experimental or seems thrown in.

Ian 



On Mar 21, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Greg Bernard wrote:

 What sort of work are you planning to do? In the Windoze world there is 
 CamBam (about $150 for the latest version, free for the old but still usable 
 version) I could not get it to  run under Wine. I just recently bought 
 Vectric V-carve Pro which runs well on Wine. It will do any 2.5 D work and is 
 excellent for artistic type stuff.  I am VERY pleased with it. Price is $599. 
 They also have Aspire which does full 3d but is out of my price range at 
 $2000. It is a very nice piece of software however. 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation
 
 
 On Mar 21, 2012, at 1:24 PM, dave wrote:
 
 I have been trying to find a decent open source CAD and CAM solution.
 
 FreeCAD looks very promising and it appears that Dan Falck got
 opencamlib at least crudely working with it.
 
 Is any one using FreeCAD/opencamlib to make any actual cuts?
 
 Other than that, can anyone recommend a simple open source solution
 for generating G-code? If not open source, how about it at least run
 on Ubuntu 10.04?
 
 I appreciate all comments and suggestions!
 
 I think Dan is off using HeeksCAD as the easiest free solution. 
 
 On the $$ side I use synergy from weber systems. The drafting is free,
 cam for 2.5 D is $250. IIRC, wireframe is $750 and full solids
 (parasolids) is $1250. The learning curve is interesting but possible
 even for a dummy like me. Google 'synergy cad' to get a web site.
 They have a 30 day trial of the full meal deal. 
 
 On the non-$$ side I'm trying to learn APT; both for mental exercise
 and as a practical tool. 
 
 Thanks for the suggestions Dave.
 
 I could live with $250 but I ultimately need some solids.
 
 So PyCAM, HeeksCAD and opencamlib that is pretty much all the open source 
 CAM? Seems surprising.
 
 Is there any decent 3D CAM on Windows for a few hundred then?
 
 
 Best,
 
 Jeshua Lacock
 Founder/Engineer
 3DTOPO Incorporated
 http://3DTOPO.com
 Phone: 208.462.4171
 
 
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