Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-11 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Gene
What I sometimes do is to take a piece of electrical wire and strip the 
insulation off. Then I split the insulation along the length and slip it 
over the sharp edge. You can glue it with some epoxy or the like.

On 2013/04/11 12:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:55 Marius Liebenberg did opine:

 Gene,
 The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to do
 that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the supplier
 and had a look at the MB to see how they do it.
 You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card or
 pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate.
 Which is what I did do at one point but with a 50 pin scsi cable from a
 triple 82C55 based card, and the edges of the hole in the backplane were
 too sharp for comfort IMO.  To be comfy, it would have needed an edge
 breaker strip installed.  And those aren't commodity items here in the
 middle of WV.  :)
   
 On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine:
 The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board
 and needs a ribbon cable extension.
 Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's
 CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?  Sounds cool
 if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box.

 I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two
 parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
 One is configured as out and the other as in.

 Rudy
 Cheers, Gene

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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 11 April 2013 08:39:43 Marius Liebenberg did opine:

 Gene
 What I sometimes do is to take a piece of electrical wire and strip the
 insulation off. Then I split the insulation along the length and slip it
 over the sharp edge. You can glue it with some epoxy or the like.

I've done that too, but getting it to stay in position long enough for 
superglue to set can be a problem.  The ready made nylon stuff is better, 
but usually formed for 16 gauge metal, not this razor sharp 28 gauge they 
use for backplates these days.  Even running it out through a card slot, I 
usually try to put an extra wrap of scotch 88 tape on the edges.  Paranoia 
I guess.

Thanks.

 On 2013/04/11 12:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:55 Marius Liebenberg did opine:
  Gene,
  The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to
  do that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the
  supplier and had a look at the MB to see how they do it.
  You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card
  or pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate.
  
  Which is what I did do at one point but with a 50 pin scsi cable from
  a triple 82C55 based card, and the edges of the hole in the backplane
  were too sharp for comfort IMO.  To be comfy, it would have needed an
  edge breaker strip installed.  And those aren't commodity items here
  in the middle of WV.  :)
  
  On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine:
  The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the
  board and needs a ribbon cable extension.
  
  Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's
  CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?  Sounds
  cool if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx
  box.
  
  I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two
  parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
  One is configured as out and the other as in.
  
  Rudy
  
  Cheers, Gene


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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-11 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen,
  I just put together an e350n with 4GB ram and 120GB SSD. The only bios
play I did was to try to boot with a USB HDD. No joy there so I used a sata
dvd to install.
  The all day servo thread latency settles around 9600 (an overnight run
was 12000 in the morning). The all day base thread settles around 8700.
This is with glxgears running and surfing the internet.
  Just information for your use.
thanks
Stuart


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Thursday 11 April 2013 08:39:43 Marius Liebenberg did opine:

  Gene
  What I sometimes do is to take a piece of electrical wire and strip the
  insulation off. Then I split the insulation along the length and slip it
  over the sharp edge. You can glue it with some epoxy or the like.

 I've done that too, but getting it to stay in position long enough for
 superglue to set can be a problem.  The ready made nylon stuff is better,
 but usually formed for 16 gauge metal, not this razor sharp 28 gauge they
 use for backplates these days.  Even running it out through a card slot, I
 usually try to put an extra wrap of scotch 88 tape on the edges.  Paranoia
 I guess.

 Thanks.

  On 2013/04/11 12:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
   On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:55 Marius Liebenberg did opine:
   Gene,
   The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to
   do that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the
   supplier and had a look at the MB to see how they do it.
   You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card
   or pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate.
  
   Which is what I did do at one point but with a 50 pin scsi cable from
   a triple 82C55 based card, and the edges of the hole in the backplane
   were too sharp for comfort IMO.  To be comfy, it would have needed an
   edge breaker strip installed.  And those aren't commodity items here
   in the middle of WV.  :)
  
   On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
   On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine:
   The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the
   board and needs a ribbon cable extension.
  
   Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's
   CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?  Sounds
   cool if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx
   box.
  
   I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two
   parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
   One is configured as out and the other as in.
  
   Rudy
  
   Cheers, Gene


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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread Rudy du Preez
The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and
needs a ribbon cable extension.

I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports: one
in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
One is configured as out and the other as in.

Rudy


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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine:

 The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and
 needs a ribbon cable extension.

Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC 
model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?  Sounds cool if you can 
get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box.
 
 I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports:
 one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
 One is configured as out and the other as in.
 
 Rudy
 
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 April 2013 16:43, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC
 model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?

Yes. Even better, it can go direct to the identical header on a Mesa 7i43.

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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/4/10 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com

 On 10 April 2013 16:43, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

  Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's
 CNC4PC
  model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?

 Yes. Even better, it can go direct to the identical header on a Mesa 7i43.


And keep all that cable inside the control box... That is why I prefer
having such a header right on motherboard, just like D510MO board had. I
have difficulties figuring out, how to get that cable back inside in a nice
and good-looking way.

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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Gene,
The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to do 
that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the supplier 
and had a look at the MB to see how they do it.
You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card or 
pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate.

On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine:

 The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and
 needs a ribbon cable extension.
 Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC
 model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?  Sounds cool if you can
 get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box.
 I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports:
 one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
 One is configured as out and the other as in.

 Rudy


 
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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:10:37 andy pugh did opine:

 On 10 April 2013 16:43, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's
  CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?
 
 Yes. Even better, it can go direct to the identical header on a Mesa
 7i43.

Kewl.

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Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:55 Marius Liebenberg did opine:

 Gene,
 The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to do
 that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the supplier
 and had a look at the MB to see how they do it.
 You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card or
 pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate.

Which is what I did do at one point but with a 50 pin scsi cable from a 
triple 82C55 based card, and the edges of the hole in the backplane were 
too sharp for comfort IMO.  To be comfy, it would have needed an edge 
breaker strip installed.  And those aren't commodity items here in the 
middle of WV.  :)
 
 On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine:
  The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board
  and needs a ribbon cable extension.
  
  Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's
  CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?  Sounds cool
  if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box.
  
  I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two
  parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable.
  One is configured as out and the other as in.
  
  Rudy

Cheers, Gene
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